# Johnny Bravo's First Mafia Game Watch-Along Thread NO SPOILERS! \[FORBIDDEN TO LIVE PLAYERS\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [October 23, 2015, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581 "2015-10-23T22:14:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/1 "2015-10-23T22:14:59Z")
Let unfounded speculation unfold. \*\*Bio \*\*there, with a bludgeoning \*avant \*on **Hooker** … ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/2 "2015-10-23T22:42:06Z")
Thank you, mod! ---
**Author:** ![Cygnus42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Cygnus42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cygnus42)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/3 "2015-10-24T01:16:01Z")
Lotta new people, and lots of pre-game banter. Should be interesting… ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/4 "2015-10-24T17:11:53Z")
I can’t believe they are even discussing “no lynch”! It was a bad idea last game and even worse in this one. Actually I think it’s highly unlikely to come up as an issue this game, since we’re back to a sensible voting mechanic. “No lynch” was an effect of **Dante** ’s game. Majority vote in such a short game with so many powerful roles forced people to have to come to a consensus or end up in no-info land. That isn’t really the case now. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/5 "2015-10-25T11:23:57Z")
I didn’t invent that particular set of tie-breakers: I found a list of common tie-breaker setups and picked that one because it seems the most likely to force the players into making an actual decision on Day 1. I agree that a Day 1 no-lynch is always going to be a bad idea for town in any kind of non-wacky setup. ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/6 "2015-10-25T21:48:32Z")
So, lets see. Votes. I guess we have to start somewhere. (Probably some mistakes here and there and everywhere.) It starts off with a couple of trigger-finger votes by **Sario** , **HookerChemical and Suburban Plankton, on Prof. Pepperwinkle** , **Sario and Dante G**. I think I’ll more or less disregard these. HookerChemical unvotes Sario and votes **WF Tomba**. He is aware that his vote is weak. \*\*TexCat \*\*sneaks in a vote on \*\*Biotop \*\*for posting towny shit. \*\*IRConfused \*\*votes a (presumably?)joke-vote on **Sario**? Or am I also confused? **Precambrianmollusc** votes on **Prof. Pepperwinkle** because of a joke. Or at least it very well could be. **Astral Rejection** votes for lurking newbie. Sure isn’t looking for friends, but maybe for martyrs. **WF Tomba** votes an OMGUS vote on **Astral Rejection** , which may be connected to a “case” not \*yet \*revealed by **Astral**. We \*choose \*our wine, guys. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/7 "2015-10-26T17:13:24Z")
I must say, I now understand the appeal in running games. Being the mod creates a concrete incentive to read through and keep tabs on the current arguments but without the actual responsibility of having to analyze posts for the purpose of creating new content. It’s perfect! ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/8 "2015-10-26T20:54:10Z")
I’ve never modded a game before, how is the workload compared to being a player? I guess it depends on the player… ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/9 "2015-10-26T21:14:03Z")
The hardest part was setup. I had to make the setup, try and balance it, then write all the role descriptions and so on. Also, since there’s a 60-second lag between sending PMs, it took a long time to send all the roles. Also, I kept going back to make sure I hadn’t mistakenly sent the wrong one to the wrong person. Now that the game is running, all I have to do is the occasional vote count and make sure none of the wolves are breaking the rules in their own thread. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/10 "2015-10-27T16:23:46Z")
I’m on page two. My early read is that WF Tomba has blatantly stated the Towniest Post so far. His post casting bizarre reasons for targeting Astral (good deceptive player) and Mahaloth (probably won’t post much) are really really bad reasons. These reasons are so bad, that I can’t imagine a scum even possibly trying to post these. Even if WF Tomba thought these were good reasons, I can’t see a scummy player taking that chance. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/11 "2015-10-27T16:25:17Z")
Astral Rejection really needs to get out of my head because I also thought Suburban Plankton’s vote for Dante G was a joke. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/12 "2015-10-27T16:40:54Z")
And now Astral and I finally diverge. I think Dante G’s mistake is not a town indicator. At best for him it means nothing. But when people get themselves mixed up with someone else, a good explanation is scum knowledge. In other words, an attack on a scum teammate can be misinterpreted as an attack on ones self. Not a clear cut case, but if anything, Dante G’s bizarre behavior is more indicative of scum than town. ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/13 "2015-10-27T16:57:56Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > I’m on page two. My early read is that WF Tomba has blatantly stated the Towniest Post so far. His post casting bizarre reasons for targeting Astral (good deceptive player) and Mahaloth (probably won’t post much) are really really bad reasons. These reasons are so bad, that I can’t imagine a scum even possibly trying to post these. Even if WF Tomba thought these were good reasons, I can’t see a scummy player taking that chance. I think I agree. Voting because of a “case” not even presented yet is bizarre. But it does suggest he’s highly paranoid! And yeah, \*\*Dante \*\*is acting pretty weird. But then again, I remember him acting pretty weird and suspicious last time too. I can’t say I’m a huge fan of “bold” Prof. P. Too many declarations, too little meat… All in all, I think this game has been pretty chock full of bad reasoning so far… ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/14 "2015-10-27T17:34:15Z")
> [@Trouble in Paradise (Mafia Game Thread)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/196): > > This is more the Plumpudding school of accusation. Haha. To be fair to **Dead Cat** , s/he hasn’t been nearly as aggressive as I was my first game, and the **Prof.** ain’t rubbing me the right way either! He brought up “lynch the lurker” way too early and I say that as someone who’s pretty vocal against lurking. Two games is a very small pool of evidence, maybe he should read some former games himself! Last game, I knew **Prof. P**. was Town more or less straight away. The feeling he’s giving me now is pretty much the opposite. Too early to tell, though. ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/15 "2015-10-28T00:48:27Z")
> [@Trouble in Paradise (Mafia Game Thread)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/207): > > diet Plumpudding, which is a horrible desert, but may be townie. I’m gonna assume this means \*regular \*\*\*Plumpudding \*\*is totes delish, or else I’ll consider this to be slander. Now I’m gonna stop talking about myself to myself. Hope some others join in next time I visit. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/16 "2015-10-28T00:51:59Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > I’m on page two. My early read is that WF Tomba has blatantly stated the Towniest Post so far. His post casting bizarre reasons for targeting Astral (good deceptive player) and Mahaloth (probably won’t post much) are really really bad reasons. These reasons are so bad, that I can’t imagine a scum even possibly trying to post these. Even if WF Tomba thought these were good reasons, I can’t see a scummy player taking that chance. Noted. So if I ever try playing again and want to appear townie, I need to make really stupid cases. ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/17 "2015-10-30T00:15:57Z")
> [@Trouble in Paradise (Mafia Game Thread)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trouble-in-paradise-mafia-game-thread/735585/262): > > **Sure, a no-lynch isn’t good, but it’s better than a mis-lynch.** No! It isn’t better! I think this game is kinda slow, no-lynch would make it hell to watch. I kinda liked **IRConfused’s** [265](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18815526&postcount=265). It’s one of those posts I would usually hate, since it’s without quotes or links. It’s just commentary, but I agree with some of it and he seems to have put in an effort into trying to allude to what he’s commenting on. On the Prof. again: It might be nothing, but to me he reads very different this time than the two earlier games I had with him. Biotop seems so far more or less as himself(null-tell). I’m slightly leaning town on TexCat, Other Cat, HookerChemical and Astral Rejection. Can’t tell more until we get some action. ---
**Author:** ![Cygnus42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Cygnus42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cygnus42)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/18 "2015-10-30T18:03:58Z")
So, Sario gets hung for excessive and repeated Sario-ing. Probably woulda been unlikely for him to be scum 3 times in a row, though - but, an easy first day vote for most. It would have been more interesting to see Prof P get the vote today - I agree that he sounds off compared to the other games - like he’s trying to look like he’s playing the same way as when he was town. Strange move by Hooker, trying to solicit suggestions on who a town power should investigate. ---
**Author:** ![Sario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sario/32/18580_2.png) [@Sario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sario)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/19 "2015-10-30T23:12:48Z")
> [@Cygnus42](#): > > So, Sario gets hung for excessive and repeated Sario-ing. Probably woulda been unlikely for him to be scum 3 times in a row, though - but, an easy first day vote for most. > > It would have been more interesting to see Prof P get the vote today - I agree that he sounds off compared to the other games - like he’s trying to look like he’s playing the same way as when he was town. > > Strange move by Hooker, trying to solicit suggestions on who a town power should investigate. Good to know my name is now a synonym for lurking. ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/20 "2015-11-02T02:01:58Z")
In my view your name is not necessarily a synonym for lurking, as I do not know you or how you play yet. I’d rather have **prof**. lynched for his strange facade and have you investigated. I’ve been away for the weekend, but it seems lynch the lurker isn’t flawless after all! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581.md?page=2)