# Johnny Bravo's First Mafia Game Watch-Along Thread NO SPOILERS! \[FORBIDDEN TO LIVE PLAYERS\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [October 23, 2015, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581 "2015-10-23T22:14:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/201 "2015-11-28T15:01:46Z")
Nice! ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/202 "2015-11-28T15:17:00Z")
Pfui! ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/203 "2015-11-28T15:21:44Z")
Okay… - I’m not sure I trust **Hooker** , although I know he’s prone to being on the opposite side of me on some core issues. - **Dante** is still a wall of confusion to me. - I read \*\*Biotop \*\*as sincere(at least more so than hooker), or I’m being played. - I still think **Dead Cat** is townie or a very good scum. - \*\*Snfaulkner \*\*is helpful under the radar, not sure what to think. Edit: freedom! ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/204 "2015-11-28T15:38:10Z")
No!!! ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/205 "2015-11-28T16:13:22Z")
Welcome **Suburban Plankton**! ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/206 "2015-11-28T16:44:08Z")
That’s not what I was expecting, but YAY! I thought for sure they would bus the non-alpha wolf. Great news, Dante and SNF are confirmed town. Bad news, they are the night kills. Will the choice of kill between Dante and SNF tell us anything? Which leaves us with Biotop, DeadCat, and Hooker. I’m sticking with Hooker, and my regret for not killing him N1. Biotop was correct; Suburban was clearly bussed by someone. And I think it much more likely that the busser was first on the wagon, rather than the very tentative last on the wagon. ---
**Author:** ![IRConfused](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/76d3ee/32.png) [@IRConfused](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IRConfused)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/207 "2015-11-28T22:09:48Z")
I’m still thinking that **Biotop** is the last wolf. Between his voting (he started the **sub** save on the previous lynch) and his "I’m so tired " posts, he just looks the worst. ---
**Author:** ![WF\_Tomba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d9b06d/32.png) [@WF\_Tomba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WF_Tomba)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/208 "2015-11-28T22:46:37Z")
So presumably they will enter the next Day with one confirmed Town player, either **snfaulkner** or **Dante G**. There will be a lot of pressure on that player to choose well. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/209 "2015-11-28T23:18:51Z")
I think Bio as well, The profs comments on deadcat notwithstanding I think DC is least scum like . ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/210 "2015-11-28T23:29:32Z")
Although town are at lunch or loose. They wake up tomorrow with one confirmed , one wolf and two vanilla. They mis lynch , second confirmed dies overnight and they wake up tomorrow with one wolf and one vanilla. I assume that means wolves win or does it go to the tie breaker random lunch? Which means game decided by random. ---
**Author:** ![WF\_Tomba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d9b06d/32.png) [@WF\_Tomba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WF_Tomba)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/211 "2015-11-29T00:54:55Z")
Rereading the rules, it looks like it would go to the tiebreaker. So either Town wins, or it’s a coin flip. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/212 "2015-11-29T01:16:38Z")
Just re read and wolves win if at the beginning of day or night the wolves are greater than half the remaining town. As half the remaining town is half a town , one wolf is greater , so wolves win if town misslynch today ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/213 "2015-11-29T05:11:46Z")
That’s correct. In the event of a tie, the wolves will win. ---
**Author:** ![WF\_Tomba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d9b06d/32.png) [@WF\_Tomba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WF_Tomba)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/214 "2015-11-29T15:53:09Z")
**Johnny** , I hate to say it, but you’re misinterpreting your own rules. If “half of the remaining town” means half of the remaining _Town-aligned players_, then the wolves win as soon as they exceed one third of living players. So 2 wolves out of 5 living players, 3 wolves out of 8 living players, and 4 wolves out of 11 living players would all be Wolf win conditions. That would be absurd. I think you have to interpret “half of the remaining town” to mean half of _all living players_. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/215 "2015-11-29T19:25:08Z")
I’m not misinterpreting the rule - I’m misremembering it. It doesn’t say “greater than half the remaining town,” it says “greater than half the number of living players.” That means that in the event of a tie it would come down to a coin flip, which is, unfortunately, an unsatisfying ending. I’ve looked over some open setups at mafiascum and I see that the general rule is that no majority results in a No Lynch rather than utilizing any kind of tiebreaker mechanism. That means that a 1v1 final day would mean a scum victory (barring any weird town powers). I didn’t consider that particular ramification when coming up with the tiebreaker mechanism. Live and learn, I guess! ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/216 "2015-11-29T21:29:51Z")
Sorry I was misreading , misquoting , misunderstanding and generally missing. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/217 "2015-11-29T22:21:37Z")
Sorry I was misreading , misquoting , misunderstanding and generally missing. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/218 "2015-11-29T23:02:13Z")
Anyone seen a missing, repeating 'Mollusc? ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/219 "2015-11-29T23:54:47Z")
Mismonotemporal posting? I’ll blame tapatalk again. ---
**Author:** ![Dante\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@Dante\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante_G)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/220 "2015-11-30T16:03:26Z")
Well, now I’m dead. Lasted much longer than last time. I’m still thinking Biotop is the last remaining Scum. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581.md?page=12)