# Johnny Bravo's First Mafia Game Watch-Along Thread NO SPOILERS! \[FORBIDDEN TO LIVE PLAYERS\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [October 23, 2015, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581 "2015-10-23T22:14:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/261 "2015-12-04T14:36:44Z")
Scum (Hooker or whoever it is) has really played a great game. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/262 "2015-12-04T14:38:25Z")
If they do lynch DC and DC is town, I guess the wolf could chose to not kill SNF then tomorrow we know who is who, won’t impact the game as it will still be decided by a coin toss. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/263 "2015-12-04T15:16:05Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > Scum (Hooker or whoever it is) has really played a great game. I agree. MVP whatever the outcome. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/264 "2015-12-04T15:26:33Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > But the point is that he never actually _defended_ Prof P. Like Mahaloth, he just said that he didn’t see the case on him. He did use a chainsaw defense on Dead Cat. So he did protect Prof P indirectly, by attacking his attacker. But why is that necessarily scummy? Sure, it could be scum. But it could just as easily (perhaps more so) be Town stating valid opinion. I didn’t really see the case against Prof P either. Perhaps that why I’m coming to such a different conclusion about HookerChemical than you. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/265 "2015-12-04T15:43:26Z")
The thing about Biotop that bothers me so is that he’s so squeaky clean. DeadCat’s behavior today has been screaming scum to me, but scum don’t scream. They sit back and look as townie as possible. Between DeadCat and Hooker, I choose DeadCat as the last scum. Between DeadCat and Biotop, I could see Biotop being the last scum. Is there a solid reason for Biotop to be treated as so close to confirmed town? I just don’t get it. He’s such a clean noser that I really really want him dead. DeadCat has been reckless this last Day. Scum should not be so reckless. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/266 "2015-12-04T16:35:03Z")
Bio has been too squeaky clean , and a bit too much ‘woe is me I don’t understand’ played a good scum if he is one. I now worry that DC and HC were two townies fighting it out. Oh well. Well the game is on rails now, looking forward to JBs end game notes. I believe I need to have a word with someone. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/267 "2015-12-04T16:57:40Z")
Hi guys! I completely forgot that this thread existed until **Dead Cat** just made reference to it. I’ll have to go back and read it real quick to see how we’re doing 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/268 "2015-12-04T18:27:07Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Your post has a lot of numbers and symbols and so I only skimmed that part. > > Also, I already answered abovethread. The thought process/intention is that I didn’t consider the endgame when I utilized the tiebreaker mechanic. This is the first game I’ve ever run and I goofed. Sorry? That’s OK. We’ll consider it a Moral Scum Victory regardless of how it turns out. It’s refreshing to see how confused everyone has been pretty much all game about who the Scum were/are. At least one of us has played a stellar game. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/269 "2015-12-04T18:30:27Z")
You didn’t do badly yourself, O mighty Alpha. Happy Howlidays. ---
**Author:** ![Dante\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@Dante\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante_G)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/270 "2015-12-04T18:33:07Z")
Sooo, do we know who might be doing the next game after this one? Or will there even be one until after the holidays? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/271 "2015-12-04T18:37:58Z")
It IS addictive, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/272 "2015-12-04T18:40:24Z")
For various reasons I’d suggest punting until the new year, one of which is we don’t want to get player fatigue. ---
**Author:** ![Dante\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@Dante\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante_G)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/273 "2015-12-04T18:41:40Z")
It can be, yes, but it’s also a lot more time consuming and frustrating than I am used to. But that’s just because of the different play styles that Dopers use. That’s just something that I need to get used to if I want to continue playing here. I will say though, that if I ever mod another game, I’m gonna stick to my mod style. I enjoy it. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/274 "2015-12-04T18:52:44Z")
I didn’t follow your game in detail, but please do keep to your style. Different mod styles can keep the game fresh, we sometimes end up in more of a deduction of the rule set and spending a lot of time nailing down every perturbation of the rules, the free flowing style was different , and good to challenge the players with a new way of doing things . ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/275 "2015-12-04T18:53:09Z")
That’s unusual. Anyone have any idea why IM would be needed at this point? I don’t think the rules said anything to that effect. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/276 "2015-12-04T18:55:03Z")
he just has a way of randomly determining the outcome based on some random inputs from players Different to a coin flip but it is also verifiable to all - after all we cant determine what the mods coin flip was ---
**Author:** ![Dante\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@Dante\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante_G)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/277 "2015-12-04T19:06:21Z")
> [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > I didn’t follow your game in detail, but please do keep to your style. Different mod styles can keep the game fresh, we sometimes end up in more of a deduction of the rule set and spending a lot of time nailing down every perturbation of the rules, the free flowing style was different , and good to challenge the players with a new way of doing things . Thanks Precam. If the request or demand is there, I’ll run another game. Just send out the Dante Signal and I’ll answer. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/278 "2015-12-04T19:39:00Z")
It was the infamous Death by Rock, Paper, Scissors. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/279 "2015-12-04T19:47:22Z")
Okay, spoilers. [First, here is the wolf thread.](http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/KXLknFzhEpDT) Second, roles with some explanations. There were some minor shenanigans with the roles, most of which did not play out. [spoiler]Town Power Roles: Texcat: Macho 2-Shot Vigilante IRConfused: Cop Precambrianmollusc: Doctor Dante G: D1/N1 Hidden Nurse HookerChemical: D1/N1 Hidden Deputy Scum Roles: Suburban Plankton: Godfather (investigates as town) Prof. Pepperwinkle: Rolecop Mahaloth: Roleblocker Biotop: D1/N1 Universal Backup The vig’s power would have passed to a random vanilla townie if Texcat had died with any shots left, but that did not happen. If either IRConfused or Precambrianmollusc had died before Day 2, those roles would have passed to HookerChemical and/or Dante G respectively. None of that information was known to the players. Biotop inherited Prof. Pepperwinkle’s role, and the Prof. flipped as vanilla wolf. The wolves were aware of the nature of their own backup role. [/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581/280 "2015-12-04T19:47:26Z")
Wait a second! Did Biotop actually say he was going to kill during the night? Because he absolutely should NOT have. snfaulker was convinced Biotop was Town. By not killing at night it would have gone to another day and the chances were high that snfaulker would take out HookerChemical. Regardless, Clean Nosers must die! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-bravos-first-mafia-game-watch-along-thread-no-spoilers-forbidden-to-live-players/735581.md?page=15)