# Johnny Depp to play the Riddler?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-depp-to-play-the-riddler/458495>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 1, 2008, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-depp-to-play-the-riddler/458495 "2008-08-01T15:04:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![The\_Batman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/22d042/32.png) [@The\_Batman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Batman)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-depp-to-play-the-riddler/458495/41 "2008-08-02T15:12:39Z")

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Nolan didn’t have anything to do with Gotham Knight.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-depp-to-play-the-riddler/458495/42 "2008-08-02T16:00:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Tijuana\_Golds]  
Nolan didn’t have anything to do with Gotham Knight.  
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Not officially no, but I can’t imagine the producers would play in his sandbox without running the storylines past him first, do you?

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**Author:** ![Rachael\_Rage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Rachael\_Rage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachael_Rage)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-depp-to-play-the-riddler/458495/43 "2008-08-02T16:21:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Sage Rat]  
The OP rumor sounds to me like BS, though. I can’t imagine Nolan casting Jolie as Catwoman, which casts doubt on all the other roles listed.  
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\*\*\*You think? \*\*\*

I’m kidding, it is complete hogwash. This “journalist” did nothing more than read some message boards on the Internet and make a “news” story about it. There are no sources whatsoever, just “reports.” That’s nothing more than people bandying about who they might like to see in roles that may or may not exist in Nolan’s universe\*.

There’s nothing wrong with speculation threads, but treating this garbage article as if it had any significance is an utter waste of time.

\*which is assuming that Nolan is even doing the next film, or that there is a next film. Sure, it seems likely, but as far as I’ve read it’s not a done deal.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-depp-to-play-the-riddler/458495/44 "2008-08-02T16:35:00Z")

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“What’s green and purple and commits lots of crime? Whose only superpower is wasting your time?”

Please, not The Riddler.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-depp-to-play-the-riddler/458495/45 "2008-08-02T16:37:56Z")

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The author said he got Depp and PSH from studio sources. It also said that Jolie was “after” the Catwoman role, but not that the studio was interested in her.

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-depp-to-play-the-riddler/458495/46 "2008-08-02T21:03:08Z")

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anyone who thinks the Riddler can’t be done well needs to go get a six pack of beer and sit down with a copy of Hush.

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**Author:** ![The\_Batman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/22d042/32.png) [@The\_Batman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Batman)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-depp-to-play-the-riddler/458495/47 "2008-08-02T23:24:32Z")

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[QUOTE= Justin\_Bailey]  
Not officially no, but I can’t imagine the producers would play in his sandbox without running the storylines past him first, do you?  
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Very much so, Nolan does not own Batman. The producers have as much need to get Nolan’s approval as the comic writers.

Don’t get me wrong, I agree Killer Croc is a good idea for the next film. However, the version in Gotham Knights does not fit the movies. The Scarecrow was in that same story and he was nothing like the one in the movies.

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**Author:** ![MacSpon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@MacSpon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacSpon)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2008, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-depp-to-play-the-riddler/458495/48 "2008-08-03T05:01:08Z")

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I suppose King Tut is out of the question for the next film…

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**Author:** ![Rachael\_Rage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Rachael\_Rage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachael_Rage)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2008, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-depp-to-play-the-riddler/458495/49 "2008-08-03T21:22:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
The author said he got Depp and PSH from studio sources. It also said that Jolie was “after” the Catwoman role, but not that the studio was interested in her.  
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No, he doesn’t:

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> **…reports in the US say** studio bosses have set their sights on Depp as The Riddler and Philip Seymour Hoffman as The Penguin."

(all emphasis mine) The author is careful not to say where the “source” came from, and certainly doesn’t indicate that they have any affiliation with a studio, producer or even the entertainment business. It could well have come from the cab driver.

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> “Producers are convinced that the role of The Riddler is perfect for Depp. Johnny’s a pro. He’ll be able to take direction and still make the character his own. And what better Penguin is there than Philip Seymour Hoffman?” **a source said**.

If this source had any legitimate tie with the entertainment or film business, don’t you think the article would have said so?

If you want to be charitable and _assume_ the source is connected with a studio and really did hear this from “producers,” everybody’s nephew in Hollywood is a producer - it doesn’t mean they have anything to do with the Batman franchise. Just like everyone in the U.S. right now, they could be sitting around at lunch jawing about what A-list stars they’d like to see as villains. Big whoop. Not news.

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> They could be joining Angelina Jolie - the actress \*\*is reported to be \*\*after the role of Catwoman.

Again with the passive “reported.” By whom? When and where? No reason whatsoever to believe that she’s ever been “after” any such thing.

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