# Johnny Manziel career predictions **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [May 9, 2014, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-manziel-career-predictions/688083 "2014-05-09T21:12:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-manziel-career-predictions/688083/101 "2016-02-03T21:48:14Z")
So when you get down to it, Tim Tebow had a better NFL career than Johnny Manziel. Tebow did have a half season where he started, wore defenses down with his running game that opened up pass defenses enough that even he could complete some passes and got the Broncos in the playoffs. Plus he may have made Denver a desirable place for a real NFL quarterback in Peyton Manning. ``` Not that Tebow really struck me as long term quarterback. His abilities weren't that of an NFL quarterback. Maybe if college you could play 15 years, yes But at the same time this is the 21st century. Athletes keep in shape, study film, and train 12 months a year. And if you don't, someone who does will come along real soon to take your place. ``` ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-manziel-career-predictions/688083/102 "2016-02-04T01:12:38Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > While it is indisputably the case the Browns have put some bad football teams on the field, there’s no way you can know what it’s like to work for them. A professional sports team can be a perfectly good employer and still finish in last place. Given the two-year lifespan of coaching staffs, I’d doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-manziel-career-predictions/688083/103 "2016-02-04T16:02:27Z")
> [@kidchameleon](#): > > Given the two-year lifespan of coaching staffs, I’d doubt it. Read these articles- doesn’t sound like anywhere I’d want to work, as a coach, player or staffer. And in light of these articles, it’s hard to argue that Cleveland was a very great place for Manziel to start out; had he ended up somewhere better-run, the structure and lack of craziness might have done him good. [http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/25038103/browns-mess-with-gordon-manziel-starts-with-owner-haslams-mismanagement](http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/25038103/browns-mess-with-gordon-manziel-starts-with-owner-haslams-mismanagement) > **[Dysfunction, suspect roster and legacy of losing make potential Cleveland...](https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2016/01/dysfunction_suspect_roster_and.html)** > > Owner Jimmy Haslam is going to have a tough sell job if, as expected, he fires Mike Pettine and Ray Farmer. > **[News Analysis: Supreme Court has right- and far-right wings. Their justices...](https://www.news-herald.com/2024/03/29/news-analysis-supreme-court-has-right-and-far-right-wings-their-justices-might-not-be-those-youd-guess/)** > > Tuesday’s argument over abortion pills highlighted the stakes the 2024 presidential election will have for the court. > **[Cleveland and Why Bad Teams Stay Bad](https://www.patspulpit.com/2016/1/8/10729046/the-cleveland-browns-and-why-bad-football-organizations-stay-bad-on)** > > The Patriots are very lucky that everyone in the organization is on the same page. > **[CBS News - Breaking news, 24/7 live streaming news & top stories](https://www.cbsnews.com/)** > > Watch CBS News live and get the latest, breaking news headlines of the day for national news and world news today. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-manziel-career-predictions/688083/104 "2016-02-04T17:33:55Z")
Manziel sounds like an outright alcoholic and all evidence rolling in suggests he has been for a long time. A gin monkey is a gin monkey, I am unconvinced his employer matters. ---
**Author:** ![mcgato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@mcgato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mcgato)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-manziel-career-predictions/688083/105 "2016-02-04T18:42:21Z")
> [@bump](#): > > And in light of these articles, it’s hard to argue that Cleveland was a very great place for Manziel to start out; had he ended up somewhere better-run, the structure and lack of craziness might have done him good. The thing is that the reason that Manziel ended up with the Browns is because the Browns are such a shitty organization. They make bad decision after bad decision, then double down with another bad decision. Lets look at their recent first round drafting: 2012: Trent Richardson 3rd overall: traded in 2013 to Indy for a 1st round pick in 2014. 2012: Brandon Weeden 22nd overall: released after 2014 2013: Barkevious Mingo 6th overall: currently a backup 2014: Justin Gilbert 8th overall: currently a backup 2014: Johnny Manziel 22nd overall using pick from Richardson trade So in three years, they used 5 first round picks to get nothing. Meanwhile my Vikings have picked 2012: Matt Kalil (starting LT), Harrison Smith (starting safety), 2013: Shariff Floyd (starting DT), Xavier Rhodes (starting CB), Cordarrelle Patterson (good return guy, but mediocre WR), 2014: Anthony Barr (starting LB), Teddy Bridgewater (starting QB). The difference between a good organization and a bad organization. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-manziel-career-predictions/688083/106 "2016-02-05T21:22:10Z")
Now, even the rats(agents) are jumping off the Manziel ship. > **[Johnny Manziel's agent dumps him - ProFootballTalk](https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/02/05/johnny-manziels-agent-dumps-him/?cid=eref:nbcnews:text)** > > Johnny Manziel’s agent has had enough.In the wake of the latest allegations that Manziel abused his girlfriend, agent Erik Burkhardt released a statement this morning saying he will no longer represent Johnny Football.“It is with deep regret that,... Sounds like the dude is really going downhill fast. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-manziel-career-predictions/688083/107 "2016-02-05T21:35:23Z")
I hope he gets the help he needs before he kills somebody or himself. His NFL career is (and should be) over. ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-manziel-career-predictions/688083/108 "2016-02-05T21:38:03Z")
He’s apparently refused to enter rehab twice this week and his father is afraid that Manziel won’t live to see his 24th birthday… > **[Report: Manziel refused rehab twice in past week](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/14720378/johnny-manziel-dad-says-quarterback-refused-enter-rehab-needs-help)** > > Johnny Manziel's father said his son has refused to enter rehab facilities twice in the past week, and he is concerned the QB "won't live to see his 24th birthday." ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-manziel-career-predictions/688083/109 "2016-02-05T22:29:24Z")
Ugh. It has gone from a train wreck to sad story. I hope he gets help. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-manziel-career-predictions/688083/110 "2016-02-06T02:56:55Z")
I hope the Bengals trade AJ McCarron to the Browns for forty five draft picks. C’mon Hue, make it happen! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-manziel-career-predictions/688083/111 "2016-02-06T14:09:42Z")
If he sobers up, he has a chance to be Ryan Leaf Jr. But that’s not the way to bet. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-manziel-career-predictions/688083/112 "2016-02-06T15:47:39Z")
> [@Pork\_Rind](#): > > He’s apparently refused to enter rehab twice this week and his father is afraid that Manziel won’t live to see his 24th birthday… > > [Johnny Manziel's dad says quarterback has refused to enter rehab, needs help - ESPN](http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14720378/johnny-manziel-dad-says-quarterback-refused-enter-rehab-needs-help) Well, sadly, flipping the bird to the world and doing as he pleases worked extremely well for him until he reached the NFL. It’s hard for ANYBODY to change, but even more so when 22 years of life experience has told you that you CAN get away with murder just because you’re Johnny F—ing Manziel. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-manziel-career-predictions/688083/113 "2016-02-07T01:26:44Z")
> [@mcgato](#): > > 2013: Barkevious Mingo 6th overall: currently a backup How have I never heard this name before? It sounds like something out of _Jabberwocky_. “Beware the Barkevious Mingo!” ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-manziel-career-predictions/688083/114 "2016-02-07T01:35:37Z")
> [@Pork\_Rind](#): > > He’s apparently refused to enter rehab twice this week and his father is afraid that Manziel won’t live to see his 24th birthday… > > [Johnny Manziel's dad says quarterback has refused to enter rehab, needs help - ESPN](http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14720378/johnny-manziel-dad-says-quarterback-refused-enter-rehab-needs-help) Well, if he won’t listen to his dad, maybe he’ll listen to his role model: [http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25475829/look-charlie-sheen-has-some-life-advice-for-johnny-manziel](http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25475829/look-charlie-sheen-has-some-life-advice-for-johnny-manziel) ---
**Author:** ![kurtisokc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kurtisokc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kurtisokc)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-manziel-career-predictions/688083/115 "2016-02-08T03:42:45Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Well, if he won’t listen to his dad, maybe he’ll listen to his role model: > > [http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25475829/look-charlie-sheen-has-some-life-advice-for-johnny-manziel](http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25475829/look-charlie-sheen-has-some-life-advice-for-johnny-manziel) You know you’ve reached rock bottom when you have to get life advice from Charlie Sheen. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-manziel-career-predictions/688083/116 "2016-02-09T18:27:53Z")
It gets weirder: Now there are claims that he was intoxicated at practice. [http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/02/09/johnny-manziel-cleveland-browns-drunk-practice-team-lied](http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/02/09/johnny-manziel-cleveland-browns-drunk-practice-team-lied) ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-manziel-career-predictions/688083/117 "2016-03-05T04:32:54Z")
Forgot about this thread. Well, I was wrong. Manziel is a sad train wreck. I wonder when his drinking problems began, but my bet is he has been excused and enabled his entire football-playing life, no matter what the transgression. I didn’t know the Browns lied to “protect” him last year. The NFL should fine the Browns for using the concussion protocol to cover up a hung-over player. They were trying to protect themselves and their investment in Manziel, nothing more. To say it was to protect Manziel is a flat-out lie, and the Browns knew few would question a player being put on the concussion protocol. If I was a stud QB, I would pull a John Elway and tell the Browns I would not play for them, so don’t waste the draft pick. (Elway did that to the Colts, I believe). The Browns organization is a cancer to a QB’s career. As for Manziel, I believe his career is over. He has to get his life back on track, and right now, he doesn’t seem to be capable. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-manziel-career-predictions/688083/118 "2016-03-05T18:52:30Z")
He’s reportedly [doing his best](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3473311/He-s-having-tough-time-trying-mind-court-case-Miami-swimsuit-model-s-steamy-night-Johnny-Manziel-4-100-night-waterfront-villa-revealed.html) to keep his mind off his troubles. Note: link might not be deemed work-safe. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-manziel-career-predictions/688083/119 "2016-03-06T00:17:00Z")
I love how she tries to put a positive spin on his out of control partying. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-manziel-career-predictions/688083/120 "2016-09-07T18:27:56Z")
> [@](#): > > His NFL career stalled out, free-agent quarterback Johnny Manziel is taking college classes at Texas A&M, where he won a Heisman Trophy as a freshman in 2012. > > The free agent quarterback is working toward completion of his undergraduate degree in recreation, parks and tourism sciences and has taken more than 90 hours of courses. [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/09/06/johnny-manziel-returns-to-college-at-texas-am/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/09/06/johnny-manziel-returns-to-college-at-texas-am/) > [@](#): > > The Tyler native and former Kerrville Tivy standout will continue to live in Los Angeles and take online classes, according to [TexAgs.com](http://TexAgs.com)’s Billy Liucci. > **[Johnny Manziel is pursuing Texas A&M degree from LA, taking online classes](https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/texas-am-aggies/2016/09/05/johnny-manziel-is-pursuing-texas-am-degree-from-la-taking-online-classes/)** > > Johnny Football is back in school.The former Heisman Trophy winner and embattled Cleveland Browns quarterback has reenrolled at Texas A&M, a... [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-manziel-career-predictions/688083.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnny-manziel-career-predictions/688083.md?page=7)