# Johnson/Hanks in 2020-After Trump, is anything possible?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 23, 2017, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-hanks-in-2020-after-trump-is-anything-possible/787279 "2017-05-23T14:43:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-hanks-in-2020-after-trump-is-anything-possible/787279/21 "2017-05-24T02:41:21Z")

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What with Kanye West announcing that he would run for president in 2020 as well, this will be a sight to see.

I hope all the celebrities run - let’s have the Kardashians in there as well while we’re at it - but that eventually a mature, experienced political veteran takes them all down.

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**Author:** ![mind\_the\_gap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@mind\_the\_gap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mind_the_gap)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-hanks-in-2020-after-trump-is-anything-possible/787279/22 "2017-05-24T03:28:25Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> But nowadays, it’s not about who can _be_ president; it’s about who can get elected. Totally different skill set.

**Thud** , I know what you’re saying and it’s a depressing thing. I guess it’s been true since politics began, but I"m just not ready to throw in the towel on the idea of the Prez as a Leader as opposed to a front man/woman for a platform. Shit. Call me an idealist I suppose…

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-hanks-in-2020-after-trump-is-anything-possible/787279/23 "2017-05-24T03:44:26Z")

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I’d hope that if he does, he wouldn’t have a chance on the democratic side. The base of the democratic party is liberals who I’d hope wouldn’t vote for some unqualified celebrity (except Al Franken of course, who actually was qualified a bit due to understanding of policy).

The GOP side though, would probably vote for anyone at this point.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-hanks-in-2020-after-trump-is-anything-possible/787279/24 "2017-05-24T03:59:08Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> What with Kanye West announcing that he would run for president in 2020 as well, this will be a sight to see.
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> I hope all the celebrities run - let’s have the Kardashians in there as well while we’re at it - but that eventually a mature, experienced political veteran takes them all down.

Sounds a bit like a CA governor’s race.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-hanks-in-2020-after-trump-is-anything-possible/787279/25 "2017-05-24T04:35:17Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Who’s DJ?

Don Johnson. He’s running for Vice Mayor of Miami. 😃

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-hanks-in-2020-after-trump-is-anything-possible/787279/26 "2017-05-24T05:29:01Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> What with Kanye West announcing that he would run for president in 2020 as well, this will be a sight to see.
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> I hope all the celebrities run - let’s have the Kardashians in there as well while we’re at it - but that eventually a mature, experienced political veteran takes them all down.

And how did that work out for the Republicans _last_ time? Way to step up to the plate.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-hanks-in-2020-after-trump-is-anything-possible/787279/27 "2017-05-24T13:51:16Z")

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Dwayne Johnson would be ten times the President Trump is, and one tenth the President a real statesman would be.

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**Author:** ![dirty\_hippie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@dirty\_hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dirty_hippie)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-hanks-in-2020-after-trump-is-anything-possible/787279/28 "2017-05-24T14:00:33Z")

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> [@mind\_the\_gap](#):
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> I want these jokers to run about as bad as I want the plumber to pilot the plane on my next flight. I’m tired of fucking amateurs thinking they can do the job. Once is enough with the bozo we have now proving the point. Fuck actors and entertainers and their elevated opinions of their talents. :smack:  
> Don’t mean to rant, but damn, being President takes more than being able to act “presidential”. Maybe they could learn on the job, but let’s start with Representative first, learn some chops, then go for high office.

My sentiments exactly.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-hanks-in-2020-after-trump-is-anything-possible/787279/29 "2017-05-24T14:56:23Z")

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Even in a post-Trump world, I don’t see this happening. If the voters have learned their lesson about electing people with no experience, then a couple of actors can’t win. And if (God forbid) the voters haven’t learned that lesson by 2020, then they’ll just re-elect Trump himself.

And the difference with Franken is that he started with the Senate, not the Presidency, and even that after a fair bit of political involvement. Now, political writer to Senator is still a pretty big jump, but it’s nowhere near as big as apolitical actor to President. And I’m pretty sure that you’d find at least one big jump in the background of anyone who became President, because it’s too far to the top and lifetimes are too short to make it entirely in small jumps.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-hanks-in-2020-after-trump-is-anything-possible/787279/30 "2017-05-24T16:23:48Z")

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Understand the reasons why Trump got elected:

1. He was the opposite reaction to the man who preceded him.

2. He had lots of his own money.

3. He was seen as a tool by special interests.

Consider these factors and we might then be able to predict what our next Prez will probably look like.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-hanks-in-2020-after-trump-is-anything-possible/787279/31 "2017-05-24T16:48:49Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Consider these factors and we might then be able to predict what our next Prez will probably look like.

Next GOP candidate will be a pile of dogshit with a tiny American flag stuck in it. And it will get 45% of the vote.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-hanks-in-2020-after-trump-is-anything-possible/787279/32 "2017-05-25T04:32:18Z")

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Depends on how fluently they can talk about policy. Being inexperienced they’ll have to meet a certain credibility bar and both of them are smart enough to learn their lines, obviously. That’s really all it takes.

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**Author:** ![Kimera757](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimera757/32/3765_2.png) [@Kimera757](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimera757)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-hanks-in-2020-after-trump-is-anything-possible/787279/33 "2017-05-27T23:09:32Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> What with Kanye West announcing that he would run for president in 2020 as well, this will be a sight to see.
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> I hope all the celebrities run - let’s have the Kardashians in there as well while we’re at it - but that eventually a mature, experienced political veteran takes them all down.

Only we’re not sure a mature, experienced political veteran can beat a celebrity. Trump faced numerous such politicians (a few Republicans and at least one Democrat) yet came out ahead anyway.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2017, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-hanks-in-2020-after-trump-is-anything-possible/787279/34 "2017-05-28T19:25:27Z")

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Politicians will figure it out. Authenticity is the key. Politicians in the TV age have been used to basically being actors, and not particularly talented actors. They need to learn how to be themselves and take the good with the bad. Trump had more bad than good and won. Imagine how a guy who knows what he’s talking about would do, with fewer negatives. But most politicians are so scared of revealing ANYTHING negative about themselves that they just come off as fake, which is worse than letting the world see your bad side.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-hanks-in-2020-after-trump-is-anything-possible/787279/35 "2017-05-29T03:03:14Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> What with Kanye West announcing that he would run for president in 2020 as well, this will be a sight to see.
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> I hope all the celebrities run - let’s have the Kardashians in there as well while we’re at it - but that eventually a mature, experienced political veteran takes them all down.

Really? Name such a politician who be under 75 in 2020.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-hanks-in-2020-after-trump-is-anything-possible/787279/36 "2017-05-29T09:49:29Z")

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There are plenty of qualified Democrats, it’s just that Democratic voters don’t bother to know anyone except the big names and a couple of lefty heroes that the activists love. Republican voters, by contrast, can usually tick off a dozen or two names right off the top of their heads of people they like.

Part of this is also ironically, those same Democratic activists. They draw a lot of attention to Republican officeholders who they hate: Scott Walker, Michelle Bachmann, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Michael Steele… Unlike Republicans who generally just focus on one villain for a long time(Obama! Clinton!), Democrats spread their outrage around and that gives conservatives a lot more heroes to rally around.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-hanks-in-2020-after-trump-is-anything-possible/787279/37 "2017-05-29T10:11:58Z")

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Well, the Limbaugh types like mocking ‘uppity’ women and ‘effeminate’ men. So they liked to bring up Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, and every freaking woman in Bill Clinton’s cabinet. It probably pays off less to bring attention to ‘manly’ Democrats.

I think the Democratic outrage machine knows a lot of GOP names because of so many GOP officeholders running around picking fights, sometimes with actual physical assault.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-hanks-in-2020-after-trump-is-anything-possible/787279/38 "2017-05-29T13:42:54Z")

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Instead of #FeelTheJohnson you can have #JohnsonYanks

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2017, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-hanks-in-2020-after-trump-is-anything-possible/787279/39 "2017-05-30T01:02:55Z")

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I think I dissed Mr Johnson/Hanks in another thread (or it came out that way) and I didn’t want it to come out that way. I may have been frustrated by the child-king sitting at the desk of POTUS as if he were a French Daunphan.  
The one disassembling all of our social infrastructure while colluding with the Russians and smashing the NATO Alliance singletinyhandedly, but none of that is Mr Hanks fault.

Yes, we need this POTUS gone and if we had a less corrupt Congress, he would be. That goal has to remain our primary focus until such time as there is no longer a threat to America or its continuation as a going-concern.

That said, once that tiny-handed flabby-assed twitter-whisperer has been ejected, the next candidates need to be vetted and passed through such a fine filtering process that no possibility of a ‘Drumpf’ being put forth by any party will be acceptable  
within the living lifetime of any human being currently drawing breath on the planet. If Mr Johnson/Hanks is ready to put up with that, so be it, but it may just be the single worst experience of their lives.

On the bright side, polyps might be found early…

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2017, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-hanks-in-2020-after-trump-is-anything-possible/787279/40 "2017-05-30T01:58:56Z")

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Yes, Trump proves that absolutely anything is possible in politics. He will reign for eight full years and leave with 100% approval and our next president will be an open white supremacist who will wear swastikas to every rally and run on non white genocide and will win all fifty states.

Anything is possible. All polls are wrong forever, nothing can ever be predicted ever ever again.

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