# Johnson/Weld campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 23, 2016, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-weld-campaign/755446 "2016-05-23T07:34:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-weld-campaign/755446/341 "2016-09-29T15:50:04Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Where the hell is Pat Paulsen when you need him? Always relevant. Maybe Johnson could use a few of his lines. I mean, it’s not like he’s using them anymore. > [@Pat Paulsen](#): > > No Taxes. Let’s just tip the government 15% if they do a good job. > [@Pat Paulsen](#): > > I read an article that said one in five Americans thinks Elvis is alive. I want to find those morons and get them registered to vote for me. > [@Pat Paulsen](#): > > They said I ignored the drug problem. Well, I gave speeches on drugs, I wrote books on drugs. I did darn near everything on drugs! > [@Pat Paulsen](#): > > Will I obliterate national debt? Sure, why not? > [@Pat Paulsen](#): > > I’ve upped my standards. Now, up yours. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-weld-campaign/755446/342 "2016-09-29T21:23:32Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > Johnson/Weld town hall on MSNBC right now. > Asked to name a world leader he respected Johnson said, “Umm…, the former president of Mexico, umm… I guess I’m having an Aleppo moment.” > Weld bailed him out, “Fox.” But Johnson still couldn’t come up with a single name of a current world leader. I get that libertarians (or Libertarians if that’s preferred) are isolationists and think the rest of the globe unimportant, but…geez. This is one seriously uninformed guy. ---
**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-weld-campaign/755446/343 "2016-09-29T21:53:36Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > But Johnson still couldn’t come up with a single name of a current world leader. > > I get that libertarians (or Libertarians if that’s preferred) are isolationists and think the rest of the globe unimportant, but…geez. This is one seriously uninformed guy. He couldn’t even throw out a simple “I’d like to shag Justin Trudeau.” Pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-weld-campaign/755446/344 "2016-09-29T22:24:40Z")
That would have been a headline-grabber, for sure! ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-weld-campaign/755446/345 "2016-09-29T22:44:51Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > Johnson/Weld town hall on MSNBC right now. > > Asked to name a world leader he respected Johnson said, “Umm…, the former president of Mexico, umm… I guess I’m having an Aleppo moment.” > > Weld bailed him out, “Fox.” My favorite comment on this from NPR: > [@](#): > > Green Party presidential nominee Jill Stein tweeted out a list of people she admired, though as Politico and several people on Twitter noted, none are leaders of their respective countries. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-weld-campaign/755446/346 "2016-09-29T22:53:58Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > But Johnson still couldn’t come up with a single name of a current world leader. > > I get that libertarians (or Libertarians if that’s preferred) are isolationists and think the rest of the globe unimportant, but…geez. This is one seriously uninformed guy. I’m actually astonished at Gary Johnson’s level of ignorance. He’s a fucking moron. Doesn’t know what Aleppo is, can’t name a _single_ world leader he admires and god knows what else he doesn’t know. I almost think Trump knows more about the world that this fidgety idiot. ETA: I mean, Trump could have at least said Vladimir Putin. Ha. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-weld-campaign/755446/347 "2016-09-30T02:32:44Z")
At this point I’m not sure it even matters. No one is voting for Johnson anymore expected him to actually occupy the White House. Now he’s just the outlet for voters who won’t vote for Clinton or Trump. And since he’s taking votes from both, unlike Stein, his presence in the race doesn’t do any harm. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-weld-campaign/755446/348 "2016-09-30T02:45:41Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > Johnson/Weld town hall on MSNBC right now. > > Asked to name a world leader he respected Johnson said, “Umm…, the former president of Mexico, umm… I guess I’m having an Aleppo moment.” > > Weld bailed him out, “Fox.” That was really painful to watch. I am all for weed legalization, but frankly this guy is not helping. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-weld-campaign/755446/349 "2016-09-30T03:15:27Z")
Johnson did score a major endorsement today. The Detroit News, for the first time in its’ history endorsed someone other than the Republican nominee. Unlike Dallas Morning News or Arizona Republic, they just couldn’t pull the trigger for Hillary. (Wait, let me rephrase that.) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-weld-campaign/755446/350 "2016-09-30T03:17:01Z")
Johnson is the top article on the front page of [CNN.com](http://CNN.com) for the first time, but with the headline “Campaign’s new punching bag.” Ouchies: [http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/29/politics/gary-johnson-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/29/politics/gary-johnson-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-weld-campaign/755446/351 "2016-09-30T03:19:31Z")
There’s votes to be had there by diminishing Johnson’s support, but the major candidates have to be careful not to alienate his supporters either. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-weld-campaign/755446/352 "2016-09-30T03:28:35Z")
Mostly he’s diminishing his support all on his own. Well and the natural tendency of voters to actually vote for a candidate that has a chance at winning, especially if the election is not a complete blowout. He’s increasingly showing that he is not a serious candidate and that even he does not view himself as one. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-weld-campaign/755446/353 "2016-09-30T03:45:25Z")
Typical libertardianism. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-weld-campaign/755446/354 "2016-09-30T04:03:12Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Mostly he’s diminishing his support all on his own. Well and the natural tendency of voters to actually vote for a candidate that has a chance at winning, especially if the election is not a complete blowout. > > He’s increasingly showing that he is not a serious candidate and that even he does not view himself as one. His support isn’t actually diminishing though, probably because once he appeared to be locked in at 8-10% that’s where he was going to stay. I see no reason to change my vote. If he gets up to 30% then I’ll start thinking about how qualified he is. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-weld-campaign/755446/355 "2016-09-30T05:29:08Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Typical libertardianism. I have always found “glibertarianism” more satisfying. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-weld-campaign/755446/356 "2016-09-30T05:38:08Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > His support isn’t actually diminishing though … [It looks to me like he is hemorrhaging.](http://www.usatoday.com/pages/interactives/2016/election/poll-tracker/) Possibly it is just a blip. Or maybe the Bluntmen are just forgetting to answer the phone. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-weld-campaign/755446/357 "2016-09-30T05:53:28Z")
538 does seem to, at the moment, be predicting Johnson will get about 7-8% of the popular vote (but not enough in any one area to get an electoral). Whether it strictly matters or not, the fact that no candidate is predicted to be anywhere near a majority of the popular vote due to the volume going to him is pretty striking. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-weld-campaign/755446/358 "2016-09-30T06:58:44Z")
It doesn’t help that neither of the major party candidates should be President. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-weld-campaign/755446/359 "2016-09-30T10:38:38Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > It doesn’t help that neither of the major party candidates should be President. Speak for yourself – I’m quite satisfied with the major party candidate in my party. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-weld-campaign/755446/360 "2016-09-30T11:52:07Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > His support isn’t actually diminishing though, probably because once he appeared to be locked in at 8-10% that’s where he was going to stay. I see no reason to change my vote. If he gets up to 30% then I’ll start thinking about how qualified he is. RCP averages he peaked at about 9.2 on 9/14 and is now down to 7.2. You’ve already stated that if you thought Florida and the election overall was close you would change your vote. And made a well spoken case for why you “think she actually will be a pretty good President.” Do try to stay consistent! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-weld-campaign/755446.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnson-weld-campaign/755446.md?page=19)