# \*\*\*Join the SDMB panel of experts for live debate coverage - 9/26/2016\*\*\*

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 26, 2016, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946 "2016-09-26T17:39:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/301 "2016-09-27T01:52:51Z")

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Trump must be coming down. He hasn’t interrupted in several minutes now.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/302 "2016-09-27T01:52:52Z")

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> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#):
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> What’s depressing is that, to me, Trump is falling apart. Shitting his pants in front of an audience of 100 million. But tomorrow, the media will probably go on about how presidential he was because he didn’t get into a fistfight with Holt.

Now now. It’s still early. There’s hope yet.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/303 "2016-09-27T01:54:01Z")

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Bragging about his NRA endorsement now. Thunderin’ Jayzus.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/304 "2016-09-27T01:54:12Z")

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I like how she said that the phrase “law and order” means little without a plan. She’s poised and clear on implicit bias. But I wish she would mention Trump’s birtherism. (Also, Trump is agreeing with her a lot suddenly).

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/305 "2016-09-27T01:54:47Z")

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And he’s back to defending stop-and-frisk.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/306 "2016-09-27T01:54:57Z")

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As a Chicago resident, I am concerned with the escalation in violence here, but what the fuck does it have to do with Obama? There were over 4000 murders here, too, during W’s presidency. And if you want to dial it back to Reagan…you don’t even want to see those numbers.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/307 "2016-09-27T01:55:13Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Trump must be coming down. He hasn’t interrupted in several minutes now.

I saw him apparently taking notes, and I said to my husband that I bet he is doodling “I wish I had more coke.”

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/308 "2016-09-27T01:55:19Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> “Stop and frisk” was “unconstitutional in part because it was ineffective.”
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> Uhhhh?

Yeah, that was in error.

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/309 "2016-09-27T01:55:23Z")

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Wow, he’s doubling down on Stop and Frisk. If it weren’t for the damage a Trump presidency would cause I would almost hope for him to win because it would be hilarious.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/310 "2016-09-27T01:55:36Z")

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> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> I agree, Hillary isn’t doing that well as debates go, but she doesn’t need to. Just let Trump self destruct.

That may not be enough. Trump’s audience is \*used \*to his being a pinball machine. They would only count a fair hit if he were left speechless, otherwise they’ll loudly cheer that she was unable to shut him down and he made all his points, however chaotic.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/311 "2016-09-27T01:55:38Z")

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“Stop and frisk” effective? Does that even need a factcheck?

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**Author:** ![Reyemile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@Reyemile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reyemile)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/312 "2016-09-27T01:56:15Z")

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What are the actual murder stats for NY that they were arguing about?

I’m assuming this is one with two decades of decline and a recent, short-term spike.

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**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/313 "2016-09-27T01:56:33Z")

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> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> I was nearly in tears listening to Trump, but that just put it over the top. Because of you I scared my cats I laughed so loud! 😉

I’m glad a little joy has some out of this shit show.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/314 "2016-09-27T01:57:16Z")

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> [@BlackKnight](#):
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> I don’t think Hilary is doing quite as well as some here think. She’s had a goofy smug grin now and then. Her sing-song “at least I haaaave a plaaan” was cringe-worthy. She’s really not charismatic.

I disagree. She’s doing an exceptional job. I like her “goofy smug grin” as a counterpoint to the steam coming out of Trump’s ears.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/315 "2016-09-27T01:57:29Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> That may not be enough. Trump’s audience is \*used \*to his being a pinball machine. They would only count a fair hit if he were left speechless, otherwise they’ll loudly cheer that she was unable to shut him down and he made all his points, however chaotic.

Yes, but again, what exactly could she actually do to “Trump’s audience”? To what extent should she be trying to reach that voter mindset?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/316 "2016-09-27T01:57:46Z")

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Birtherism!

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/317 "2016-09-27T01:57:56Z")

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> [@Reyemile](#):
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> What are the actual murder stats for NY that they were arguing about?
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> I’m assuming this is one with two decades of decline and a recent, short-term spike.

No spike. Total Trump bullshit.

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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/318 "2016-09-27T01:57:56Z")

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Bam. I prepared to be President.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/319 "2016-09-27T01:57:58Z")

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Birtherism! Yes!

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/320 "2016-09-27T01:57:59Z")

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Oh boy, birtherism.

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