# \*\*\*Join the SDMB panel of experts for live debate coverage - 9/26/2016\*\*\*

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 26, 2016, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946 "2016-09-26T17:39:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/681 "2016-09-27T04:05:02Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Can you give a better speech to Hitler’s audience than Hitler?

**Charlie Chaplin** could.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/w8HdOHrc3OQ/maxresdefault.jpg "[Best Version] The Great Dictator Speech - Charlie Chaplin + Time - Hans Zimmer (INCEPTION Theme)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8HdOHrc3OQ)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/682 "2016-09-27T04:08:22Z")

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[CNN fact checks the debate](https://www.instagram.com/p/BK1sM6gDJW7/)

Spoiler: Trump doesn’t come out too well.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/683 "2016-09-27T04:09:30Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> CNN fact checks the debate
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> Spoiler: Trump doesn’t come out too well.

Spoiler: That link isn’t CNN 🙂

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/684 "2016-09-27T04:10:57Z")

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Uh, about your link?..

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/685 "2016-09-27T04:13:14Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [CNN fact checks the debate](https://www.instagram.com/p/BK1sM6gDJW7/)
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> Spoiler: Trump doesn’t come out too well.

> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> Spoiler: That link isn’t CNN 🙂

[Maybe this?](http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/26/politics/fact-check-presidential-debate/)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/686 "2016-09-27T04:13:41Z")

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Well, hell. Sorry about that. Don’t bother clicking on that.

Here it is:

> **[Clinton, Trump clash in first debate: CNN's Reality Check Team vets the claims...](https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/26/politics/fact-check-presidential-debate/index.html)**
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> Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump clashed Monday in their first head-to-head debate of the general election season, with Trump in particular straying from the truth, CNN's Reality Check Team found.

That’s weird, because I posted the same link to facebook and it worked, there.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/687 "2016-09-27T04:14:21Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Uh, about your link?..

I never imagined that **Rick Kitchen** had long, blond hair.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/688 "2016-09-27T04:14:55Z")

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Thanks! Who doesn’t like strawberry blondes?

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**Author:** ![Memnon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Memnon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Memnon)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/689 "2016-09-27T04:15:17Z")

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I’ve just started watching this in the UK. Trump has just said to Clinton “No wonder you’ve been fighting ISIS your entire adult life.”

What in the fucking fuck is that crazy fucking motherfucker smoking? He’s just throwing words around and hoping they make sense.

P.S. He just said “We’re stuck in a big fat ugly bubble.” He’s talking about the stock market, but it occurs to me he could just as easily be talking about his own teeth.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/690 "2016-09-27T04:16:18Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> Trump said stupid things, and he got caught in the weeds trying to defend himself, whch was a bad idea.
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> But he won the debate. He won because the main thing he had to accomplish was to plant the idea in the minds of the public that he could be President. The bar for him was incredibly low, and he managed to drag himself over it.
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> If the public starts thinking of him as a real Presidential contender and not as a reality show host on a lark, he comes out ahead. In a way, it was hard for him to lose once he was on that stage unkess he said something so ludicrous that even the average non-political viewer would have said, 'Holy shit, that guy can never be President!" He avoided doing that - somehow.

I don’t think this makes sense. What you describe in your first paragraph contradicts the rest of your post. Getting caught saying stupid things and “out in the weeds” is what makes him not seem like a presidential contender. You’re saying he looked like a buffoon compared to Clinton, who I presume you think looked Presidential.

I just hope the regression to the mean creates a narrative that Clintons polls are going up. (I’m rather skeptical that debates actually do anything to the polls directly.)

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/691 "2016-09-27T04:16:19Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Well, some people are saying… very good people. A lot of good people.
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> Ok, I’ll stop. It’s just too easy. . . .

I didn’t watch, so this is an honest (but leading) question: did Trump repeat himself, as in your parody, during the debate?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/692 "2016-09-27T04:19:43Z")

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I fully expect an epic Donald Trump tweetstorm within the next 48 hours.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/693 "2016-09-27T04:21:22Z")

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> [@tenacious\_j](#):
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> Wow, whatever he’s paying Kelly Ann Conway, it’s not enough. She deflects like Kevin Durant! I have heard a lot of spin, but this girl is a pro.  
> Someone please hold my hair while I throw up.

Saw her on MSNBC. Didn’t look at all composed with Matthews pressing her on Iraq, birtherism, and income taxes.

Now MSNBC is running the Hillary “girl” ad. Nice touch, that.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/694 "2016-09-27T04:23:31Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> I didn’t watch, so this is an honest (but leading) question: did Trump repeat himself, as in your parody, during the debate?

To be fair, I have a vague recollection that he said his usual campaign trail stuff like that a couple of times, but I couldn’t tell you in connection with which issue. And he didn’t use it as often as I expected he would. But that was ok. He came unhinged more than once and reacted predictably.

I was so pleased.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/695 "2016-09-27T04:24:23Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I never imagined that **Rick Kitchen** had long, blond hair.

Hell, why not, Trump does!

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/696 "2016-09-27T04:24:48Z")

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**Trinopus** , if you’re interested, C-SPAN is rerunning the debate now.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/697 "2016-09-27T04:24:56Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> I didn’t watch, so this is an honest (but leading) question: did Trump repeat himself, as in your parody, during the debate?

Yes.

Yes, he did.

He did that.

Yes.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/698 "2016-09-27T04:25:24Z")

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> [@ultimate11](#):
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> Definitely DJT should have practiced for the debate.

I’m sure he did but his strategy is to make shit up, and say it confidently. This works well when speaking to low information voters and true believers. It doesn’t work too well with your opponent standing right there to contradict you confidently, and a moderator doing some of the same.

Trump’s difficulty however is that he doesn’t really have a plan B. There is nothing behind the smoke and mirrors. Someone like say GWB could talk folksy, but had at least some substance to fall back on in more serious situations. Trump has nothing. The only thing he could practice was throwing out extra smoke and installing a few more mirrors in the hope that he could at least hold his supporters.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/699 "2016-09-27T04:25:27Z")

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**Yen Drops as Traders Give First Round to Clinton; Peso Rebounds**

[Bloomberg - Are you a robot?](http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl)…-deutsche-bank

A pterodactyl flaps his wings in Mongolia…

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/700 "2016-09-27T04:28:22Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> I bet the others wouldn’t fall behind in payments. When terms of a deal aren’t enforced why should US soldiers have to die? Buy some tanks and airplanes and take your sovereignty seriously if you want to keep it. People and nations always looking for a handout instead of contributing their fair share.

“Poland got schlonged in German invasion, I was right not to get involved if they weren’t paying their bills. Hitler is much stronger. Sad!”

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