# \*\*\*Join the SDMB panel of experts for live debate coverage - 9/26/2016\*\*\*

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 26, 2016, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946 "2016-09-26T17:39:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/981 "2016-09-28T22:00:18Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> and even his good bullets were fired at the wrong time or into the floor. (I will join a million other observers in my slack-jawed amazement that Trump didn’t make the cybersecurity portion of the debate all about ripping Clinton’s email shenanigans.)

I feel like there was a perfect pause just when he could have blasted her on Benghazi (I think when she was talking about the stamina she had in testifying for hours on the Senate floor) and missed the chance completely.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/982 "2016-09-28T22:00:19Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Someone with photoshopping skills needs to prepare a picture of Trump at one if his rallies wearing long robes and holding a shepherd’s staff.

Is he wearing a pointy hat, and is the staff on fire?

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/983 "2016-09-28T22:11:34Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> I shouldn’t have said “nomination” but the principle is still the same. You would refuse to vote for any Republican just like many Republicans would refuse to vote for a democrat, and the end result of that is people voting for a cretin like Trump. You are just lucky this time that the cretin is on their side and not yours, but that may not always be the case.

I suppose you’re right in theory. But let’s not kid ourselves. This Trump thing didn’t happen overnight. Trump was able to do what he did because of the racist, misogynistic, Islamaphobic, you name it, groundwork laid out by the Republicans.  
If the Dems ever try to pull this shit, I imagine I’ll leave the party long before a Trump equivalent steps on stage.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/984 "2016-09-28T22:34:09Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Meanwhile, his opponent is being trained by the person who committed the [greatest Presidential debate town hall move ever](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta_SFvgbrlY&t=0m6s).

What’s sad it he’s talking about the very same things she’s asking for 24 years later. Things Obama may have been able to make progress on if Congress hadn’t opposed him so consistently.

> [@Flyer](#):
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> But for the first time, I actually feel good about supporting him. He looked and sounded very presidential tonight.

Can you expand on this? What about his look and sound was presidential?

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/985 "2016-09-28T22:39:06Z")

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Nate Silver…

_Election Update: Early Polls Suggest A Post-Debate Bounce For Clinton_

> **[Election Update: Early Polls Suggest A Post-Debate Bounce For Clinton](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-early-polls-suggest-a-post-debate-bounce-for-clinton/)**
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> Want these election updates emailed to you right when they’re published? Sign up here. Every scientific poll we’ve encountered so far suggests that voters thoug…

I think everyone here predicted this within minutes of the debate ending.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/986 "2016-09-28T22:50:08Z")

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> [@gigi](#):
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> Can you expand on this? What about his look and sound was presidential?

He obviously turned off the debate after the first 15 minutes…😛

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/987 "2016-09-28T23:11:51Z")

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[Trump: “The security aspect of cyber is very, very tough”](http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/09/clinton-cyber-warfare-will-be-one-of-the-greatest-challenges/)

What the hell was this?

"“So we have to get very, very tough on cyber” Trump continued.

He seriously had no idea what he was talking about there. Of course, this was near the end of the debate, when he was exhausted and coming down from his previous (sniff sniff) high.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/988 "2016-09-28T23:25:11Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Nate Silver…
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> _Election Update: Early Polls Suggest A Post-Debate Bounce For Clinton_
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> [Election Update: Early Polls Suggest A Post-Debate Bounce For Clinton | FiveThirtyEight](http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-early-polls-suggest-a-post-debate-bounce-for-clinton/)
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> I think everyone here predicted this within minutes of the debate ending.

Yeah, it’s the 8th inning and the closer’s warming up in the bullpen. Just finish it, Hillary.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/989 "2016-09-29T01:56:18Z")

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First the setup man, Kaine on the mound against Pence, next Tuesday.

Bet on Kaine, btw.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/990 "2016-09-29T02:18:46Z")

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> [@DoctorJ](#):
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> That said, if they’re going to do it, I think Hillary should make use of the standard jerking-off pantomime and/or a small Wile E. Coyote-style sign that says “BITCH PLEASE”.

Hmmm…  
Can Hillary do a Mr. Spock eyebrow raise?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/991 "2016-09-29T02:22:29Z")

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If she could, she would have used it by now. I can’t and solemnly hate everybody who can.

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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/992 "2016-09-29T02:55:09Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> If she could, she would have used it by now. I can’t and solemnly hate everybody who can.

I can do it with either eye. And it’s s useful skill in the corporate world.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/993 "2016-09-29T03:02:21Z")

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One of the best things about this debate to me is, she’s got his number now. She can gaslight him at will – how cool is that? He couldn’t resist a single one, not even the Mark Cuban one she lit before the debate.

He’s going to be the one who comes into the next one intimidated and worried about what she can do to him. If he tries to unload on her like he does at his rallies (predicted), he’s going to look like the raving loon we already know him to be. If he manages to keep a lid on it for awhile, she’ll just niggle and niggle and niggle, knowing he won’t be able to resist sooner or later. “Shave-and-a-haircut…”

I don’t believe the town hall format will favor him, either. Again, not a rally. Connecting one-on-one with audience members is important, and he doesn’t have the attention span, let alone care about anyone else enough to connect with them, except through jingoism and shallow rhetoric. She’s been practicing for a long while with an exceptional coach.

He really hates strong, independent women. She’s got that going for her in spades.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/994 "2016-09-29T04:59:04Z")

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Does anybody know if the third debate going to be done standing up or sitting? I assume they’ll have stools at the town hall, but in 2012 the third debate was done at a table.

Edit: It’s a garbage source of course, but [Breitbart](http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/22/first-debate-candidates-must-stand-commission/) said a week ago that there hadn’t been a decision. I’d prefer that they have to stand again since Trump seemed to have a stamina issue.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/995 "2016-09-29T05:03:34Z")

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[Joe Biden comments on some of Trump’s debate remarks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPYS0GiLnDw&t=114).

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/996 "2016-09-29T05:13:29Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> [Joe Biden comments on some of Trump’s debate remarks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPYS0GiLnDw&t=114).

Ddamn, Mr. Biden really rips into Mr. Trump there. I like Mr. Biden even more after watching that. Thanks for posting that link, **septimus**.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/997 "2016-09-29T05:23:10Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> [Joe Biden comments on some of Trump’s debate remarks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPYS0GiLnDw&t=114).

Excellent link. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/998 "2016-09-29T05:49:54Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> I suppose you’re right in theory. But let’s not kid ourselves. This Trump thing didn’t happen overnight. Trump was able to do what he did because of the racist, misogynistic, Islamaphobic, you name it, groundwork laid out by the Republicans.  
> If the Dems ever try to pull this shit, I imagine I’ll leave the party long before a Trump equivalent steps on stage.

Amen!

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/999 "2016-09-29T05:54:28Z")

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It appears that Trump is pissed at his allies for suggesting he didn’t ace the debate.  
_Trump wants his supporters to make an energetic defense of his performance and refuse to concede that he didn’t nail it._

> **[Trump angry at allies conceding he lost debate | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/28/politics/donald-trump-debate-reaction/index.html)**
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> Donald Trump is angry that his aides and advisers have conceded to reporters -- largely without attribution -- that the Republican nominee struggled in his first presidential debate.

This proves, beyond a doubt, that you just can’t fix stupid. Fortunately, Trump’s case of the stupids is deep and long running. Keep up the good work Donald, see you at the next debate.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/1000 "2016-09-29T06:14:35Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> It appears that Trump is pissed at his allies for suggesting he didn’t ace the debate.  
> _Trump wants his supporters to make an energetic defense of his performance and refuse to concede that he didn’t nail it._  
> [http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/28/politics/donald-trump-debate-reaction/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/28/politics/donald-trump-debate-reaction/index.html)
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> This proves, beyond a doubt, that you just can’t fix stupid. Fortunately, Trump’s case of the stupids is deep and long running. Keep up the good work Donald, see you at the next debate.

This surprises you? Remember, reality is less important than what people feel. Donald feels that he won the debate.

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