# \*\*\*Join the SDMB panel of experts for live debate coverage - 9/26/2016\*\*\* **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 26, 2016, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946 "2016-09-26T17:39:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 55
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/1081 "2016-09-30T19:21:43Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Well, there are porn sites with videos that are labeled as Alicia Machado which are not really her. Totally gonna take your word on that, no cites necessary. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/1082 "2016-09-30T19:24:04Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > For what, five minutes? > > VP debates are not known for being the most compelling viewing, but this is surely the most boring one ever scheduled. In the past you sometimes had silly candidates, like Dan Quayle or Sarah Palin, or funny candidates like Joe Biden, or unusual matchups like Dick Cheney versus John Edwards. > > But Pence Vs. Kaine is a matchup of two guys who look like non-speaking parts in a movie credited as “Accounting Guy In Blue Shirt.” I’m not saying they aren’t different in policy, but holy moly are they ever boring. I actually forgot Pence’s name at one point and I don’t think I’ve heard a thing about either man the whole campaign. Compared to the Armageddon candidates on the top of the ticket, yeah, they’re boring. But it’s also entirely possible that viewers may be watching these two to get past the noise of the Trump v Clinton clash of the titans. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/1083 "2016-09-30T19:26:50Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Well, there are porn sites with videos that are labeled as Alicia Machado which are not really her. > [@elucidator](#): > > Totally gonna take your word on that, no cites necessary. But if anyone does need a cite, it’s on Snopes. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/1084 "2016-09-30T19:35:19Z")
Let’s not forget that Kaine will likely do some of the debate\* in Spanish\*. Yes, I know, but it appears to be his only parlor trick. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/1085 "2016-09-30T20:10:20Z")
He can play the harmonica too, for varying values of “play”. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/1086 "2016-09-30T20:12:33Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > He can play the harmonica too, for varying values of “play”. Well, at least he can count on the Harmonica-American vote. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/1087 "2016-09-30T23:59:46Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > Let’s not forget that Kaine will likely do some of the debate\* in Spanish\*. Yes, I know, but it appears to be his only parlor trick. I will say, here in San Antonio TX, hispanics respect anglos who speak Spanish. He can do the entire debate in Spanish for all I care. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/1088 "2016-10-01T00:03:23Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > Let’s not forget that Kaine will likely do some of the debate\* in Spanish\*. Yes, I know, but it appears to be his only parlor trick. Yes, because knowing more than one language is stupid, bad and pandering. Sure. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/1089 "2016-10-01T00:39:25Z")
Damn-I forgot about the harmonica! Kaine FTW! (FTR-I am actually a big Kaine fan-voted for him here in VA multiple times. Also, did not mean to appear to denigrate the Hispanic vote. From my very unscientific polling (Hispanic coworkers) the Miss Housekeeping thing really hit hard, much worse than the Miss Piggy comments. They really dislike Trump even more than before). ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/1090 "2016-10-01T01:17:05Z")
The VP Debate will be about one thing: Trump. Kaine will unleash a pile of invective (using Hilary as an exercise in contrasts) about Pence’s running mate, and Pence will have to continue to spin and spin, defending the indefensible. Of course, Pence’s own positions aren’t without some controversy and that might offer some additional backwards momentum, but Kaine is smart and knows that keeping his opponent on his heels the whole night (while praising the top of his own ticket in his very charming, affable style) will be the most obvious strategy. ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/1091 "2016-10-01T01:35:11Z")
As well they should. It says loud and clear to them that to people like Trump, it doesn’t matter how high you rise - you can be Miss freaking Universe, held up as the ideal of femininity - you’ll never be better than “the help” to him. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/1092 "2016-10-01T01:51:33Z")
Tim Kaine is governor of a state I once called home. For half a century I have kept up on poltics there. Mike Pence governs the state next door, and for years I have monitored what an idiot he is. Kaine all the way, and I’m ready for Hillary’s stroke in 2020, confident that the ship of state is in steady hands. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/1093 "2016-10-01T05:37:41Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Hillary hit a nerve. > > Trump tweets this morning about Alicia… > . There is some reasonable speculation that Trump’s 3AM tweets were an attempt to distract the media from covering his illegal dealings with Cuba. Potentially that could cost him Florida. Luckily it seems the Cuba story has legs and is getting a fair bit of coverage. > **[Donald Trump Still Won't Tell the Truth About Cuba](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-cuba-embargo-florida-fidel-castro-cuban-americans-havana-505067)** > > The GOP nominee and his surrogates have tried to undermine Newsweek's cover story, which shows how one of Trump's companies violated the Cuban trade embargo. They have left all the facts unchallenged. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/1094 "2016-10-01T16:32:15Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > “Sometimes it takes me a minute to think of Tim Kaine’s name when I’m looking directly at at Clinton-Kaine sign.” -Happy Lendervedder Every time I hear either one of these guys’ names, I have to take a second to remember which is which. I don’t always remember correctly. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/1095 "2016-10-01T16:52:54Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Every time I hear either one of these guys’ names, I have to take a second to remember which is which. > > I don’t always remember correctly. _sings_ Feed the birds, TrumPence a bag" _sings_ ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/1096 "2016-10-01T19:12:53Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > There is some reasonable speculation that Trump’s 3AM tweets were an attempt to distract the media from covering his illegal dealings with Cuba. Potentially that could cost him Florida. Luckily it seems the Cuba story has legs and is getting a fair bit of coverage. > > [Donald Trump Still Won't Tell the Truth About Cuba - Newsweek](http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-cuba-embargo-florida-fidel-castro-cuban-americans-havana-505067) So in order to distract from a story wherein he illegally broke the Cuba embargo (which would cost him Florida votes), he tweets more rude, lying insults about a hispanic woman he insulted years ago (which will cost him Florida votes). The man truly is thinking 6 steps ahead! ---
**Author:** ![Neofio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/82dd89/32.png) [@Neofio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neofio)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/1097 "2016-10-01T19:17:12Z")
Also, it doesn’t matter, as Hillary will surely bring up the Cuba shenanigans during the next debates, calculated to have him blow his top at the most inopportune time. Hillary had dry ammunition _at the end of the last debate_, and all Trump did was restock it. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/1098 "2016-10-01T19:51:33Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > There is some reasonable speculation that Trump’s 3AM tweets were an attempt to distract the media from covering his illegal dealings with Cuba. Potentially that could cost him Florida. Luckily it seems the Cuba story has legs and is getting a fair bit of coverage. > > [Donald Trump Still Won't Tell the Truth About Cuba - Newsweek](http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-cuba-embargo-florida-fidel-castro-cuban-americans-havana-505067) Reasonable to someone who still doesn’t understand Trump, which by now should be almost no one. There is no strategy behind his tweets, he was lashing out because a girl beat him. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/1099 "2016-10-01T19:55:12Z")
Trump is reaching out to women again… _Female reporter: Trump called me the c-word._ > **[Female reporter: Trump called me the c-word | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/01/politics/female-reporter-trump-called-me-the-c-word/index.html)** > > Jennifer Lin, a former Philadelphia Inquirer reporter, says that in 1988 Donald Trump called her the c-word after she wrote a story about his casinos. (cute???) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/1100 "2016-10-01T19:56:23Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Trump is reaching out to women again… > > _Female reporter: Trump called me the c-word._ > > [http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/01/politics/female-reporter-trump-called-me-the-c-word/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/01/politics/female-reporter-trump-called-me-the-c-word/index.html) > > (cute???) I guess we can look forward to more twitter rants where he insults this latest woman who has reported what he said to her. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946.md?page=54) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946.md?page=56)