# "Join us for the first and only pro-American film festival in the country." **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 30, 2004, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-us-for-the-first-and-only-pro-american-film-festival-in-the-country/262149 "2004-08-30T01:32:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Road\_Rash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@Road\_Rash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Road_Rash)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-us-for-the-first-and-only-pro-american-film-festival-in-the-country/262149/1 "2004-08-30T01:32:42Z")
Is [this](http://www.afrfilmfestival.com/index.html) film festival a freakin joke? Are people of any political leaning serious about this event? This borders on the absurd! No, it well crosses it. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-us-for-the-first-and-only-pro-american-film-festival-in-the-country/262149/2 "2004-08-30T01:40:09Z")
I find it more sad than absurd that people actually still fall for this pro-Bush = pro-America bullshit. But it’s absolutely hysterical that they have Timothy Bottoms playing Bush in that movie, just a couple years after he played Bush as a complete buffoon on the short-lived ‘That’s My Bush!’ show. ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-us-for-the-first-and-only-pro-american-film-festival-in-the-country/262149/3 "2004-08-30T02:06:44Z")
> [@](#): > > I find it more sad than absurd that people actually still fall for this pro-Bush = pro-America bullshit. By sad do you mean scary? Do people realize how quickly our standards of political debate are slipping into newspeak? ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-us-for-the-first-and-only-pro-american-film-festival-in-the-country/262149/4 "2004-08-30T02:14:25Z")
Sad AND scary, now that you mention it. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-us-for-the-first-and-only-pro-american-film-festival-in-the-country/262149/5 "2004-08-30T02:21:00Z")
Man, I wish I was Timothy Bottoms. That’s hilarious. I really wish That’s My Bush had started up again. They took it off the air after 9/11, but they shoulda put it back on by now. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-us-for-the-first-and-only-pro-american-film-festival-in-the-country/262149/6 "2004-08-30T02:31:52Z")
I’m not 100 percent sure, but I think ‘That’s My Bush’ was cancelled from low ratings before 9/11. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-us-for-the-first-and-only-pro-american-film-festival-in-the-country/262149/7 "2004-08-30T02:38:01Z")
That wasn’t the official story at the time. ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-us-for-the-first-and-only-pro-american-film-festival-in-the-country/262149/8 "2004-08-30T02:46:17Z")
They halted production in August. The 9/11 story was a convenient for them, granted. It wasn’t a bad show; The secretary chick was hot, and while most of the humor was too predictable, it did have it’s moments. Reno 911 blows it away, though. (As did Primetime Glick, but those cocknobs cancelled that.) ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-us-for-the-first-and-only-pro-american-film-festival-in-the-country/262149/9 "2004-08-30T02:47:13Z")
I found this article, dated August 3 2001, reporting the cancellation. [http://www.canoe.ca/TelevisionShowsT/thatsmybush.html](http://www.canoe.ca/TelevisionShowsT/thatsmybush.html) Here’s one from August 8, 2001 [http://www.detnews.com/2001/entertainment/0108/08/d05-263375.htm](http://www.detnews.com/2001/entertainment/0108/08/d05-263375.htm) that says it was cancelled because of the expense. No doubt though, it would have been cancelled a month later if it had lasted that long. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-us-for-the-first-and-only-pro-american-film-festival-in-the-country/262149/10 "2004-08-30T02:51:19Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > That wasn’t the official story at the time. Maybe not, but it’s true. From here: > [@](#): > > On August 2, Comedy Central announced it was not going to order any more episodes of That’s My Bush! If you are guessing the budget had something to do with it, congratulations. “It’s a great show. And critically lauded. But the cost per ratings point was just too expensive and unfortunately it was a business decision not to renew the show,” said Steve Albani, a Comedy Central spokesman. The ratings, as mentioned at the top of the page, started strong, but settled to about 1.7 million viewers. The show is estimated to have cost just under $1 million an episode, making it the most expensive show ever commissioned by the network, although whether this includes the movie rights needed to make Mystery Science Theater 3000 or the cost per episode includes the money lost while the staff was on hold during the election recounts wasn’t reported. By way of contrast, South Park episodes pull in 2.7 million viewers and cost 50-67% of what That’s My Bush! episodes do. Lisa Chader, another rep for Comedy Central, said the network would (appropriately) continue to run the show in reruns and considered it a creative and critical success. “But financially, we can’t move forward with it.” As E! Online wrote, “It’s the economy, stupid!” 9/11 just killed the reruns, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-us-for-the-first-and-only-pro-american-film-festival-in-the-country/262149/11 "2004-08-30T04:55:36Z")
Sounds like a job for Mike and the 'Bots. That might make it actually enjoyable. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-us-for-the-first-and-only-pro-american-film-festival-in-the-country/262149/12 "2004-08-30T06:27:14Z")
If [**America’s Heart and Soul**](http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=americasheartandsoul.htm) is any indication, this will be as successful as a radioactive jockstrap. The problem with “rah-rah American jingoism” stuff is that it requires the viewers to have unquestioning support for the nation – and the United States is a nation that’s _not_ founded on unquestioning support for anybody. Every aspect of the American government is built on distrust and suspicion; we have checks and balances because the Founding Fathers didn’t want _any_ one part of this country to be able to wield control over the whole. The only thing a “pro-American film festival” is going to succeed in doing is inducing an involuntary gag reflex in the collective psyche of the nation. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-us-for-the-first-and-only-pro-american-film-festival-in-the-country/262149/13 "2004-08-30T07:21:18Z")
God conservatives are pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-us-for-the-first-and-only-pro-american-film-festival-in-the-country/262149/14 "2004-08-30T10:14:07Z")
Did Bush recently convert to conservatism? ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2004, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-us-for-the-first-and-only-pro-american-film-festival-in-the-country/262149/15 "2004-08-30T10:28:28Z")
Sponsored by WorldNetDaily? I’m so there! > [@](#): > > _Is it True What They Say About Ann?_ - WORLD PREMIERE! > By Patrick Wright > You’ve read her bestsellers and watched her take on the left, now see conservative thinker Ann Coulter as you’ve never seen her before. Wakka-chikka-wakka-chikka-wakka-chikka-wakka-chikka… > [@](#): > > _Mega Fix - The Dazzling Political Deceit That Led to 9/11_ - WORLD PREMIERE! > by Jack Cashill, with assistance by Jayna Davis ([www.jaynadavis.com](http://www.jaynadavis.com)) > In this stunning, **surprisingly entertaining** , 90-minute, one-man tour de force Jack Cashill traces the roots of September 11 to the perfect storm of disinformation that surrounded the Clintons’ desperate drive for the White House in the years 1995-1996. Cashill leads the viewer from Oklahoma City to Dubrovnik, where Ron Brown’s plane crashed, to the Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia to the destruction of TWA Flight 800 off Long Island to the Olympic Park bombing. As Cashill proves beyond dispute, these are not multiple conspiracies but all part of one major political fix, the mother of all fixes, the Mega Fix. Bolding is mine–says it all, doesn’t it? Note to potential attendees of this movie–movie theatres are where they really like to work on you with the brain rays, since you’re sitting up and sitting still for so long, so you’d better add a couple layers of tinfoil before the festival. And don’t forget, the shiny side goes out…