# Jokes, in response to moderation etc

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**Created:** [February 19, 2022, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-in-response-to-moderation-etc/959768 "2022-02-19T02:40:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-in-response-to-moderation-etc/959768/41 "2022-02-19T17:27:54Z")

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> [@lobotomyboy63](#):
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> If a man remarks that a woman is not attractive, then people say he’s bad because women are worth more than their attractiveness. But if a man remarks that a woman IS attractive, then people say he’s bad for the same reason.

If I tell you you have a small penis, you’ll think it’s weird, and if I tell you that you’re waving around your big dick, you’ll think it’s weird. It’s so frustrating–how am I supposed to say anything to you at all?

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**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-in-response-to-moderation-etc/959768/42 "2022-02-19T17:36:50Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> The point is that the message is that all that matters about a woman is how hot she is.
> 
> I recommend you not tell your female coworkers they look hot, unless it’s someone you don’t work with much and you are hoping to date her, not work with her.

My honest interpretation of the joke, and it’s through my own filters, is this:

Dirty Johnny is a smart ass. If he can make a joke, he will.

He’s also a bit wise beyond his years. Part of the humor is hearing something adult come out of a child’s mouth.

And in his crude way, he thinks he’s complimenting her, but he’s just stating a fact like “The grass is green.” Saying she’s attractive is just an honests observation.

He isn’t challenging her authority; he just doesn’t think twice about the appropriateness of his comment. He says what’s on his mind, unvarnished and unfiltered, as kids sometimes do.

So maybe that’s a gender driven interpretation but that’s what it means to me. I guess it’s like interpreting a poem or something; what one person takes away isn’t the only thing you could find in there. I think I can see where you’re coming from.

As for telling women I work with that they’re hot, I never would phrase it that way. And besides, Mrs L would take a very dim view of it. 😉

> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> It’s so frustrating–how am I supposed to say anything to you at all?

You tell me; how would you like to be complimented?

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-in-response-to-moderation-etc/959768/43 "2022-02-19T17:57:19Z")

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A limerick packs joke, anatomical,  
Into space that is quite economical.  
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;But the good ones I’ve seen  
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;So seldom are clean,  
And the clean ones so seldom are comical.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-in-response-to-moderation-etc/959768/44 "2022-02-19T17:59:51Z")

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“You’re an eight”? :facepalm: And I thought the pun was that it was a complete _non sequitur_! Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-in-response-to-moderation-etc/959768/45 "2022-02-19T18:07:46Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> > [@solost](#):
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> > Maybe we need a no-holds-barred, “Offensive Jokes Only” thread. In the Pit maybe?
> 
> Yeah, no. The Pit is for ranting about real life, or calling out other posters for unacceptable behavior. It’s not the, “It’s okay to be racist/sexist” forum.

I agree.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-in-response-to-moderation-etc/959768/46 "2022-02-19T18:18:35Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> > [@solost](#):
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> > Maybe we need a no-holds-barred, “Offensive Jokes Only” thread. In the Pit maybe?
> 
> Yeah, no. The Pit is for ranting about real life, or calling out other posters for unacceptable behavior. It’s not the, “It’s okay to be racist/sexist” forum.

In my defense, I was spitballing, and did admit in the next sentence that would probably go off the rails, hard.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-in-response-to-moderation-etc/959768/47 "2022-02-19T18:22:28Z")

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> [@lobotomyboy63](#):
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> You tell me; how would you like to be complimented?

I appreciate all of these:

> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> Feel free to tell your female coworker that you think her proposal is really strong, and you think it will really improve the business. Or that she did a great job of keeping that difficult meeting on-topic. Or that her documentation was very clear.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-in-response-to-moderation-etc/959768/48 "2022-02-19T18:27:45Z")

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> [@lobotomyboy63](#):
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> He’s also a bit wise beyond his years. Part of the humor is hearing something adult come out of a child’s mouth.
> 
> And in his crude way, he thinks he’s complimenting her, but he’s just stating a fact like “The grass is green.” Saying she’s attractive is just an honests observation.
> 
> He isn’t challenging her authority; he just doesn’t think twice about the appropriateness of his comment. He says what’s on his mind, unvarnished and unfiltered, as kids sometimes do.

Except:

It’s the opinion of a man, not of a boy. That is, it’s a sexualized opinion.  
Men routinely say stuff like that to women. It’s not at all surprising to hear things like that from an adult man.

So i read it as a vignette of a boy coming into his manhood, and because of that, he can now sit in judgement over an adult women who previously had authority over him. So, i imagine that for a man, there’s a little bit of joy of coming into power embedded in that story.

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**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-in-response-to-moderation-etc/959768/49 "2022-02-19T18:43:53Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> It’s the opinion of a man, not of a boy.

Or an adolescent, in transition between those two, as you say later? I remember being a total horndog when that transition was in motion. Adolescent male thoughts are really much worse than an adult’s, IME.

> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> he can now sit in judgement over an adult women who previously had authority over him.

Again, IMO we can each interpret it and get different results, like a poem or whatever, and each have valid reads. I think he’s commenting on her desirability. Why does he want or need power over her—I think he wants her sexually, sure. But are you saying that his approval or disapproval matters to her, giving him power? I imagine the teacher thinks he’s a pipsqueak and whatever desires she may have for a male, he isn’t it by a longshot.

There’s a Calvin and Hobbes where Calvin is telling Susie it must be terrible being a girl etc. and he wonders what she has to look forward to. Susie replies something to the effect, “The thought of one of you jerks asking me for a date in about ten years.”

That more nearly describes my experience, i.e. the females had the power when I was a minor. But I wasn’t an alpha male so there’s that.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-in-response-to-moderation-etc/959768/50 "2022-02-19T18:57:09Z")

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> [@lobotomyboy63](#):
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> I think he’s commenting on her desirability.

I guess i read it as his sitting in judgement over her. Or, at least, thinking he is.

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**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-in-response-to-moderation-etc/959768/51 "2022-02-19T19:39:39Z")

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Use the word urinate, refer to big tits and dirty Johnny schools the Teach?

I wouldn’t laugh at that tiresome obviously juvenile “joke”.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-in-response-to-moderation-etc/959768/52 "2022-02-19T23:14:27Z")

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Post 1444 from the More Jokes Thread, posted by Lancia, who is a schoolteacher: It seems to be relevant here.

> [@More Jokes](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-jokes/848629/1452):
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> ### Why is Cinderella so bad at football?
> 
> > …
> > 
> > B. Because she keeps running away from the ball

I just told this joke to my students because, hey, its a nice clean joke that’s totally appropriate for the classroom and everyone is still talking about the Super Bowl and football in general so why not. Little did I know they’d be able to one-up me (or you, as it so happens). As soon I tell the punchline a voice in the back row shouts out:

"Hey Lancia, what did Cinderella do when she got to the ball?

Me: Um… … hmm… …?

Student: She gagged.

_Much laughter from the room, the boys making disgusting simian sounds and congratulating each other on their wicked sense of humor while I get to spend 2 or 3 minutes trying to get everyone back on track. That’ll teach me to tell an innocent joke in class._

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-in-response-to-moderation-etc/959768/53 "2022-02-19T23:21:50Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> "Hey Lancia, what did Cinderella do when she got to the ball?
> 
> Me: Um… … hmm… …?
> 
> Student: She gagged.

Poor dude! What happened to the other one?

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-in-response-to-moderation-etc/959768/54 "2022-02-20T00:43:21Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> My knees were destroyed in high school. There was a video game called Berzerker, where the human player would evade/destroy robots. ‘STOP THE HUMANOID! STOP THE INTRUDER!’ My friends would make the human hobble across the screen and say, ‘Hey, look! I’m [Johnny L.A.]!’ But you know, I did… and do… have gimpy legs. There was no malice; just poking fun.
> 
> If Jews make fun of Jewishness, does the Jewishness not exist? Of course it does. The issue is intent. If you intend to be mean, that’s one thing.

Those were your friends. How about if your enemies did it?

A post on a message board isn’t the same thing as a joke among friends who all know each other well. Nobody reading the post can tell whether you’re a member of the group you’re telling the joke on, or whether you intend to be mean, loving, or just plain careless.

> [@solost](#):
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> I’ve told a number of jokes in that joke thread, and I don’t think any have been more than slightly risqué or could be considered too inappropriate by anybody.

I’ve read a lot of jokes in that joke thread; and many of them aren’t poking at anybody. There are a lot of jokes in the world that rely on making fun of somebody, yes. But those are most certainly not the only kind of jokes that exist. I’m puzzled by people who think the only kind of humor is the kind that puts somebody else down.

> [@lobotomyboy63](#):
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> It seems like it works both ways. If a man remarks that a woman is not attractive, then people say he’s bad because women are worth more than their attractiveness. But if a man remarks that a woman IS attractive, then people say he’s bad for the same reason. I’m probably not the only guy in here who would say we’re afraid to compliment women because we don’t know how it will be received.

In most contexts, don’t comment on other people’s bodies, no matter what gender they are.

There are contexts in which it’s OK or even a good idea to do so. Beauty contests, say. Or some contexts with your significant other, family, close friends: in which you ought to know the person well enough to be able to tell whether it is such a context.

> [@lobotomyboy63](#):
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> He isn’t challenging her authority; he just doesn’t think twice about the appropriateness of his comment. He says what’s on his mind, unvarnished and unfiltered, as kids sometimes do.

You seriously think that any kid old enough to make such a joke wouldn’t think it a deliberate challenge to make it in class and at his teacher?

Did you talk about your teachers’ tits to their faces when you were in school?

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-in-response-to-moderation-etc/959768/55 "2022-02-20T01:00:54Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> > [@solost](#):
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> > I’ve told a number of jokes in that joke thread, and I don’t think any have been more than slightly risqué or could be considered too inappropriate by anybody.
> 
> I’ve read a lot of jokes in that joke thread; and many of them aren’t poking at anybody. There are a lot of jokes in the world that rely on making fun of somebody, yes. But those are most certainly not the only kind of jokes that exist. I’m puzzled by people who think the only kind of humor is the kind that puts somebody else down.

I had been avoiding the thread, because I was afraid it was full of unpleasant humor. But when a lot of reports came in, and the mods who had been dealing with the thread were obviously at the end of their patience, I offered to step up. So I ended up reading a lot of jokes.

And I was really surprised at how many were funny and also nice. Jokes that made me smile, or even chuckle, that weren’t poking fun at anyone. Yeah, there are definitely lots of completely appropriate jokes there. Also, there are a lot of funny Dopers.

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**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-in-response-to-moderation-etc/959768/56 "2022-02-20T01:32:36Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> So i read it as a vignette of a boy coming into his manhood, and because of that, he can now sit in judgement over an adult women who previously had authority over him.

I meant to add that she still has power. After his wisecrack, I imagine him in the principal’s office, explaining himself to his parents etc.

> [@chela](#):
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> I wouldn’t laugh at that tiresome obviously juvenile “joke”.

Duly noted.

> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> You seriously think that any kid old enough to make such a joke wouldn’t think it a deliberate challenge to make it in class and at his teacher?

You’re asking me if I seriously think X about a _joke_? By definition they’re often pushing boundaries to try to be funny. But ok, yes. Not all kids, but at least a few are off in their own world, oblivious to how they should act or speak.

> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Did you talk about your teachers’ tits to their faces when you were in school?

No. But this isn’t about average kids…Dirty Johnny is an outlier. And jokes aren’t entirely reality based. Could it have happened somehow, somewhere?

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-in-response-to-moderation-etc/959768/57 "2022-02-20T01:38:35Z")

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Once we start discussing jokes they’re no longer funny. I’ve had to explain a few of my own, take my word.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-in-response-to-moderation-etc/959768/58 "2022-02-20T01:39:12Z")

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yeah, poor Dirty Johnny. He’s going to be a failure in life, and all because his parents named him “dirty”.

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**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-in-response-to-moderation-etc/959768/59 "2022-02-20T01:39:51Z")

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Thanks for playing!

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-in-response-to-moderation-etc/959768/60 "2022-02-20T01:45:29Z")

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Huh, the polls ended up not all that different. At first they looked like they were telling different stories. But the first shows:  
9 don’t think it’s offensive  
8 think it’s a little offensive  
8 think it’s moderately to severely offensive  
and only 24 people voted…  
(plus some other answers in the click-on-many poll)

and the second shows  
7 men think it’s offensive  
4 men think it’s not offensive  
4 women think it’s offensive  
1 woman thinks it’s not offensive

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