# Jokes that, nowadays, need explaining **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** comedian-jokes\ **Created:** [September 25, 2020, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-that-nowadays-need-explaining/921466 "2020-09-25T02:53:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![razordance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e47774/32.png) [@razordance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/razordance)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-that-nowadays-need-explaining/921466/1 "2020-09-25T02:53:13Z")
I recall a cartoon: A gloating waiter shows the customer what’s on his tray, and says, “It’s a fried telephone book! We gave it a fancy French name and you ordered it!” “What’s a telephone book, Daddy?” ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-that-nowadays-need-explaining/921466/2 "2020-09-25T14:32:39Z")
I was looking at some unflattering pictures of myself and told my son “geez, I have more chins than a Japanese phone book.” I then had to explain exactly what that meant. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-that-nowadays-need-explaining/921466/3 "2020-09-25T14:35:48Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > I was looking at some unflattering pictures of myself and told my son “geez, I have more chins than a Japanese phone book.” “Chin” sounds Chinese, not Japanese. (Aren’t most Japanese names multisyllabic?) Weird Al’s song “Fat” includes the line “I’ve got more chins than Chinatown.” ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-that-nowadays-need-explaining/921466/4 "2020-09-25T14:38:49Z")
The riddle where the father dies in a car accident and his son is badly injured, but the operating surgeon says “I can’t operate on this boy: he is my son” was dated the first time I heard it almost 40 years ago and has only become increasingly stupid-sounding with time. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-that-nowadays-need-explaining/921466/5 "2020-09-25T14:42:04Z")
One of the comics on The Far Side website for today, September 25, 2020, is captioned “The Ty-D-Bol family at home”. Now _I_ remember the Ty-D-Bol commercials from several decades ago, of a guy in a rowboat, supposedly in your toilet tank, representing the Ty-D-Bol cleaner that you put in the toilet tank, but does this Far Side joke just pass over the heads of younger people today? ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-that-nowadays-need-explaining/921466/6 "2020-09-25T15:50:02Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > The riddle where the father dies in a car accident and his son is badly injured, but the operating surgeon says “I can’t operate on this boy: he is my son” was dated the first time I heard it almost 40 years ago and has only become increasingly stupid-sounding with time. That riddle reminds me of a business trip I took to Chicago by myself years ago. I was walking downtown at night, wearing a pair of ox blood loafers, when a guy came up and asked me if I wanted him to shine up my shoes with some mink oil. Before I could say no, he said, “give you a free sample” dropped down to one knee and buffed up the top of one of my shoes. I looked down, saw one shoe dull and scuffed, and one shoe shiny as new, sighed and said, “fine. How much?” He said “3 dollars, but double or nothing if I can correctly guess how many kids your dad had”. I said no, just the shine for $3. When he got done I asked him what the guessing trick was. “Your dad didn’t have any kids, your mom had them all”. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-that-nowadays-need-explaining/921466/7 "2020-09-25T16:08:24Z")
Here’s a fifty-post thread from last month explaining one old Reader’s Digest joke. > [@Couldn't get this 80s or 90s Reader's Digest joke](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/couldnt-get-this-80s-or-90s-readers-digest-joke/918192): > > Decades ago, the humor sections in Reader’s Digest were almost all real-life anecdotes, not the jokes that they are now. Sometime in the 80s or 90s, someone told a true anecdote that was published in RD’s joke section and I have never figured it out: I was a pizza delivery guy. One time I delivered a pizza to a lady, and she gave me a $20 bill and told me to “keep the change.” Delighted at such a large tip, I took the bill and went back into my car, only to have her come and knock on the car w… ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-that-nowadays-need-explaining/921466/8 "2020-09-25T16:13:50Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > The riddle where the father dies in a car accident and his son is badly injured, but the operating surgeon says “I can’t operate on this boy: he is my son” was dated the first time I heard it almost 40 years ago and has only become increasingly stupid-sounding with time. I remember hearing that riddle when I was about 8 years old (which was over 40 years ago), and having to think about it for a minute. I remember doing the mental gymnastics to figure out the answer. I also remember thinking that it wasn’t a very plausible scenario, which tells you how much things have changed since then (at least for an 8-year old). My mother and one of my aunts were both smart enough and had the desire to go to medical school, but married young and supported their husbands while they attended instead. In fact, my mother and that same aunt had better pre-med grades and test scores than their husbands. I’ve heard from boomers of that generation that as late as the mid-1970s, women had a career choice of nurse, teacher, or secretary, and that was about it. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-that-nowadays-need-explaining/921466/9 "2020-09-25T16:21:45Z")
At the time, the brain teaser (it wasn’t really a “joke”) was meant to expose our inherent sexism in assuming that the surgeon couldn’t be the boy’s mother. Today of course, the surgeon could also be the boy’s other father. ---
**Author:** ![SirRay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@SirRay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SirRay)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-that-nowadays-need-explaining/921466/10 "2020-09-25T18:44:52Z")
I recall first hearing of the ‘Mother as Doctor’ riddle on All In The Family (asked by Gloria I suppose), were the other characters guessed via pretzel logic things like Rabbi or Step Father or Blood Brother or the like. Don’t recall if Edith eventually got it or not, it was decades ago… ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-that-nowadays-need-explaining/921466/11 "2020-09-25T18:51:07Z")
Possibly the first instance of the female surgeon riddle, or at least the first in print, was an Encyclopedia Brown story where Sally challenged Encyclopedia to a riddle contest, before agreeing to become his business partner. She claimed beforehand that she wanted him to prove that he was smarter than her, but she actually wanted confirmation that he was sufficiently non-sexist to see the answer. ---
**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-that-nowadays-need-explaining/921466/12 "2020-09-25T21:33:31Z")
In the episode of Seinfeld where Jerry buys his father a Cadillac, Jerry asks his father “But what about the Northstar System?” To which Mr. Seinfeld replies something like “What’s the Northstar System? I don’t know if I’m even using it.” Now car buffs know that Northstar was what Cadillac called their new at the time engines, but that exchange doesn’t really make sense if they’re simply discussing the car’s engine. To non car people it likely makes even less sense. The thing is, in the 1990s Cadillac’s advertising heavily touted that their cars now all came with “The Northstar System”, but didn’t really make it clear that that referred to the technology in their engines (At least, that’s how I remember it). Most people who saw those ads probably came away asking “WTF is the Northstar System?” That’s what the joke is about. ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-that-nowadays-need-explaining/921466/13 "2020-09-25T21:43:12Z")
I remember an EB story where Sally asked (a variation of) the female surgeon riddle, where the female was a famous circus performer. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-that-nowadays-need-explaining/921466/14 "2020-09-25T22:54:50Z")
Wait. So there’s a rule somewhere that a surgeon can’t operate on his/her own child? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-that-nowadays-need-explaining/921466/15 "2020-09-25T23:08:37Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Before I could say no, he said, “give you a free sample” dropped down to one knee and buffed up the top of one of my shoes. I was walking through Chicago with some friends one day and there were some of those shoe shine guys out and about in Wrigleyville. One of the people I was with said ‘don’t let him near you, he’ll do one shoe free and then you have to pay him to do the other one’. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-that-nowadays-need-explaining/921466/16 "2020-09-25T23:17:07Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Wait. So there’s a rule somewhere that a surgeon can’t operate on his/her own child? I don’t believe there is a formal rule that physicians can’t treat family members, but for something as serious as surgery, it’s probably not a good idea. No surgery is guaranteed to go well. What happens if there is a serious complication? The surgeon might let their personal attachment to the patient cloud their best judgement. Even if regulatory agencies don’t have rule against this, the hospital may well have one. In the case of the riddle, the situation is even more fraught, because it’s a trauma case. The surgeon might make a mistake because it’s their child that being operated on. It would seem only prudent in such a case to get another surgeon scrubbed in ASAP to take over. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-that-nowadays-need-explaining/921466/17 "2020-09-25T23:28:57Z")
And of course, in the scenario, the father (presumably the surgeon’s spouse) is dead in the same accident. So the surgeon’s grief is going to be obvious even before they announce that the kid is their son. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-that-nowadays-need-explaining/921466/18 "2020-09-25T23:29:30Z")
Yep, I walked right into that scam (literally!) Though, to be fair I did get a shoe shine and a bit of entertainment for a reasonable price, so it wasn’t all bad. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-that-nowadays-need-explaining/921466/19 "2020-09-25T23:58:35Z")
> [@razordance](#): > > I recall a cartoon: A gloating waiter shows the customer what’s on his tray, and says, “It’s a fried telephone book! We gave it a fancy French name and you ordered it!” > > “What’s a telephone book, Daddy?” That reminds me of a trope from comedies of the 1970s and before—the idea that going to eat at a French restaurant was some kind of nerve-wracking situation in which people would be given a French-only menu and be too proud/embarrassed/intimidated to ask for translations, and then end up ordering something they don’t want. Example: on _Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C._, Gomer and Sergeant Carter went to a French restaurant for dinner. Gomer asked for a translation and ordered something nice. Sergeant Carter just pointed at something random and ended up with fried eggs. This trope seems to have mostly died out (at least in the shows I watch). The most recent occurrence I saw was in a _Mr. Bean_ in which Mr. Bean treated himself to a French dinner for his birthday and ended up ordering steak tartare. I never understood why this trope would have arisen in society—of what benefit is it for French restaurants to intimidate people into ordering food they don’t want? ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-that-nowadays-need-explaining/921466/20 "2020-09-26T00:21:28Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > I never understood why this trope would have arisen in society—of what benefit is it for French restaurants to intimidate people into ordering food they don’t want? French restaurants were the epitome of a “fancy” restaurant. That was their brand. Cultivating a rep of exclusivity and high class is a good way to get the asses of a certain type of people who aspire to that elite status in seats. I don’t know if French restaurants in the states ever had French language-only menus, it may have only been a sitcom trope. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-that-nowadays-need-explaining/921466.md?page=2)