# Jon McNaughton's latest Trump atrocity **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 24, 2019, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-mcnaughtons-latest-trump-atrocity/839175 "2019-08-24T19:51:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-mcnaughtons-latest-trump-atrocity/839175/21 "2019-08-26T01:00:55Z")
I find the guy quite talented as an artist. I especially like the small details buried in the background of his crowds. Too bad he’s batshit insane. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-mcnaughtons-latest-trump-atrocity/839175/22 "2019-08-26T02:28:30Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > [Vice](https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xwp8d7/meet-the-maga-painter-creating-pro-trump-art-sean-hannity-loves): Hah, it was total speculation on my part. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_blistering_barnacle/32/3386_2.png) [@Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blue_Blistering_Barnacle)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-mcnaughtons-latest-trump-atrocity/839175/23 "2019-08-26T04:39:09Z")
> [@Steve\_McQwark](#): > > I don’t know. Based on what we can see in the corner of the painting, I imagine it’s a vision of what the air in America will look like after we switch over to burning clean coal for all of our energy needs. Or, possibly, the steam over the oceans as they boil away when the Earth starts approaching a Venus-like atmosphere. Either way, I think it’s safe to say the painting is a fair representation of how Trump will be remembered by history. Well, I say history, that’s kind of an iffy term after every living thing on Earth is dead, but, you know what I mean. I thought it looked like New York underwater, after we burn enough coal. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-mcnaughtons-latest-trump-atrocity/839175/24 "2019-08-26T05:01:27Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > I find the guy quite talented as an artist. I especially like the small details buried in the background of his crowds. > > Too bad he’s batshit insane. That’s the sad thing – dude does actually have talent. But he wastes it on shit like this. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-mcnaughtons-latest-trump-atrocity/839175/25 "2019-08-26T05:35:38Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > That’s the sad thing – dude does actually have talent. But he wastes it on shit like this. I disagree. I’m not saying McNaughton has no talent. But he’s basically got technical skills. There are probably ten thousand people in this country who can paint as well as he can. Here are some examples of his landscapes, so we can judge him without the politics: [Autumn Heights](https://jonmcnaughton.com/autumn-heights-11-x-14-le-signed-numbered-giclee-canvas/) [Blossom Lane](https://jonmcnaughton.com/blossom-lane-11x14-le-signed-numbered-giclee-canvas/) [Grandma’s Rocking Chair](https://jonmcnaughton.com/grandmas-rocking-chair-11x14-le-signed-numbered-giclee-canvas/) [Old Watermill](https://jonmcnaughton.com/old-watermill-11-x-14-le-signed-numbered-giclee-canvas/) [Path to the Ocean](https://jonmcnaughton.com/path-to-the-ocean-11x14-le-signed-numbered-giclee-canvas/) [Thunder Canyon](https://jonmcnaughton.com/thunder-canyon-11x14-le-signed-numbered-giclee-canvas/) These are not artistic masterpieces. These are the kinds of paintings a skilled hobbyist makes. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-mcnaughtons-latest-trump-atrocity/839175/26 "2019-08-26T12:47:27Z")
You know we already had a thread about this masterpiece: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=880758](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=880758) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-mcnaughtons-latest-trump-atrocity/839175/27 "2019-08-26T14:13:37Z")
> [@pool](#): > > Holy God, I see these are for sale, who would actually buy one of these besides Jeffrey Epstein or something? > [@Morgyn](#): > > Pence. > > ETA: And Lindsey Graham. > > ETAA: And come to think of it, Roger Stone and Devin Nunes. IFF Jesus is under the cloth, Ben Carson might buy one… ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-mcnaughtons-latest-trump-atrocity/839175/28 "2019-08-26T14:14:14Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > These are the kinds of paintings a skilled hobbyist makes. There’s something… amateurish about them. Like his understanding of light and shadow is that basically the whole painting is properly exposed (if it was a photograph), and the parts that are lit are floodlit. It’s weird looking. Maybe it’s a stylistic choice, or a style of painting- I don’t know a whole lot about artistic trends really. But I do know that I’ve seen other works by other painters that don’t have such a weird sort of contrast. Plus, it’s like he’s dialed up the saturation on some parts and down on others as far as the colors go. There’s just something… off about the landscapes. At least with the indoor paintings, the light/shadow stuff is more normal- that weirdness isn’t what stands out in that godawful Trump painting. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-mcnaughtons-latest-trump-atrocity/839175/29 "2019-08-26T14:36:15Z")
Weird. That one of Obama golfing while the bombs go off…doesn’t even _look_ like Obama. Could be any one of a number of African-Americans with a golf club in their hand. Even the explosion looks cheesy and slap-dash. But, boiled down, its not some much that I hate his painting, it’s that his painting hates _me_! ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-mcnaughtons-latest-trump-atrocity/839175/30 "2019-08-26T15:40:05Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Weird. That one of Obama golfing while the bombs go off…doesn’t even _look_ like Obama. Could be any one of a number of African-Americans with a golf club in their hand. Even the explosion looks cheesy and slap-dash. > > But, boiled down, its not some much that I hate his painting, it’s that his painting hates _me_! It almost looked to me as though the body looked like Bill Clinton’s or something, oddly enough. Maybe he started doing a Clinton painting, and then changed it to Obama. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-mcnaughtons-latest-trump-atrocity/839175/31 "2019-08-26T15:52:40Z")
> [@pool](#): > > It almost looked to me as though the body looked like Bill Clinton’s or something, oddly enough. Maybe he started doing a Clinton painting, and then changed it to Obama. Maybe it started out as Clinton in blackface. [Bill Clinton Says ‘I Loved Being Called The First Black President’](https://myhoustonmajic.com/3136626/bill-clinton-says-i-loved-being-called-the-first-black-president/) > [@](#): > > Before the days of Barack Obama, the African-American community affectionally embraced Bill Clinton as the first Black President. Of course, that all changed when the big O was elected into office in 2008, but Clinton said he still holds those memories dear to his heart. > > “I loved being called the first Black president,” he revealed during an appearance on “Jimmy Kimmel Live” this week. “But, Barack Obama really is, he deserves it.” ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-mcnaughtons-latest-trump-atrocity/839175/32 "2019-08-26T17:30:49Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I disagree. I’m not saying McNaughton has no talent. But he’s basically got technical skills. There are probably ten thousand people in this country who can paint as well as he can. > > Here are some examples of his landscapes, so we can judge him without the politics: > > [Autumn Heights](https://jonmcnaughton.com/autumn-heights-11-x-14-le-signed-numbered-giclee-canvas/) > [Blossom Lane](https://jonmcnaughton.com/blossom-lane-11x14-le-signed-numbered-giclee-canvas/) > [Grandma’s Rocking Chair](https://jonmcnaughton.com/grandmas-rocking-chair-11x14-le-signed-numbered-giclee-canvas/) > [Old Watermill](https://jonmcnaughton.com/old-watermill-11-x-14-le-signed-numbered-giclee-canvas/) > [Path to the Ocean](https://jonmcnaughton.com/path-to-the-ocean-11x14-le-signed-numbered-giclee-canvas/) > [Thunder Canyon](https://jonmcnaughton.com/thunder-canyon-11x14-le-signed-numbered-giclee-canvas/) > > These are not artistic masterpieces. These are the kinds of paintings a skilled hobbyist makes. All those paintings have slightly skewed perspective. They’re wonky, and they all seem to be sliding a bit to the left. Especially the Watermill one. If I saw one in person I’d probably keep trying to straighten it, but it’s not the way it was hung that’s the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Uncle\_Jocko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncle_jocko/32/2932_2.png) [@Uncle\_Jocko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Jocko)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-mcnaughtons-latest-trump-atrocity/839175/33 "2019-08-26T18:01:37Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > (snip …) but it’s not the way it was hung that’s the problem. That’s what Trump said. I’ll see myself out. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-mcnaughtons-latest-trump-atrocity/839175/34 "2019-08-26T18:06:20Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > McNaughton also did this one - [Obama Foreign Policy](https://jonmcnaughton.com/patriotic/obama-foreign-policy/). It depicts the President playing golf and ignoring the threat of a third world country which is developing nuclear weapons. > > And the President is Barack Obama. > > McNaughton is apparently serious. There’s no hint that he’s aware of the irony in his choice of subjects. Oh lord. I’m not even very good at golf, and I can see that this pose is just completely wrong. And if an atomic bomb has just gone off _behind_ him, why is his shadow off to the left?!? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-mcnaughtons-latest-trump-atrocity/839175/35 "2019-08-26T18:18:00Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Oh lord. I’m not even very good at golf, and I can see that this pose is just completely wrong. > > And if an atomic bomb has just gone off _behind_ him, why is his shadow off to the left?!? It looks like he’s skipping rope, not swinging a club. And see, it’s a mushroom CLOUD, and clouds block light, so he’s illuminated from the bright sky in the upper-left… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-mcnaughtons-latest-trump-atrocity/839175/36 "2019-08-26T18:22:46Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > You could have salved your bewilderment by clicking the link. The OP could have saved the confusion with a better description of what this thread is about in the first place. It’s the OP’s job to set the stage for a discussion rather than to make viewers click links. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-mcnaughtons-latest-trump-atrocity/839175/37 "2019-08-26T21:36:44Z")
When I saw this addition to the canon of American art, I wondered if it was by the same artist who gave us the masterpiece [“Trippin’ Balls with the Lord”](https://cornerstonerecoverycenter.com/stephen-sawyer/) but apparently, we’re graced with not one but _two_ brilliant painters. Go America! ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-mcnaughtons-latest-trump-atrocity/839175/38 "2019-08-26T22:04:39Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I disagree. I’m not saying McNaughton has no talent. But he’s basically got technical skills. There are probably ten thousand people in this country who can paint as well as he can. > > Here are some examples of his landscapes, so we can judge him without the politics: > > [Autumn Heights](https://jonmcnaughton.com/autumn-heights-11-x-14-le-signed-numbered-giclee-canvas/) > [Blossom Lane](https://jonmcnaughton.com/blossom-lane-11x14-le-signed-numbered-giclee-canvas/) > [Grandma’s Rocking Chair](https://jonmcnaughton.com/grandmas-rocking-chair-11x14-le-signed-numbered-giclee-canvas/) > [Old Watermill](https://jonmcnaughton.com/old-watermill-11-x-14-le-signed-numbered-giclee-canvas/) > [Path to the Ocean](https://jonmcnaughton.com/path-to-the-ocean-11x14-le-signed-numbered-giclee-canvas/) > [Thunder Canyon](https://jonmcnaughton.com/thunder-canyon-11x14-le-signed-numbered-giclee-canvas/) > > These are not artistic masterpieces. These are the kinds of paintings a skilled hobbyist makes. Not all that skilled. In almost all of them, things like houses are trying to slide off the left side of the canvas. ETA: I see that **carrps** beat me to it. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-mcnaughtons-latest-trump-atrocity/839175/39 "2019-08-26T22:13:24Z")
They were probably trying to run away from the brush. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-mcnaughtons-latest-trump-atrocity/839175/40 "2019-08-26T23:16:47Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I disagree. I’m not saying McNaughton has no talent. But he’s basically got technical skills. There are probably ten thousand people in this country who can paint as well as he can. > > Here are some examples of his landscapes, so we can judge him without the politics: > > [Autumn Heights](https://jonmcnaughton.com/autumn-heights-11-x-14-le-signed-numbered-giclee-canvas/) > [Blossom Lane](https://jonmcnaughton.com/blossom-lane-11x14-le-signed-numbered-giclee-canvas/) > [Grandma’s Rocking Chair](https://jonmcnaughton.com/grandmas-rocking-chair-11x14-le-signed-numbered-giclee-canvas/) > [Old Watermill](https://jonmcnaughton.com/old-watermill-11-x-14-le-signed-numbered-giclee-canvas/) > [Path to the Ocean](https://jonmcnaughton.com/path-to-the-ocean-11x14-le-signed-numbered-giclee-canvas/) > [Thunder Canyon](https://jonmcnaughton.com/thunder-canyon-11x14-le-signed-numbered-giclee-canvas/) > > These are not artistic masterpieces. These are the kinds of paintings a skilled hobbyist makes. Reminds me of Thomas “Painter of Light” Kinkade, who trademarked his style, pumped out a bunch of ‘base’ paintings and had an army of technically good painters ‘embellish’ them. Only not as good. Which is saying something. I think he puts more effort into his political paintings as they are vastly better than these things, giving credence to trope that insanity enhances art. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-mcnaughtons-latest-trump-atrocity/839175.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-mcnaughtons-latest-trump-atrocity/839175.md?page=3)