# Jon Stewart August 04, 2005 **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 5, 2005, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-august-04-2005/315669 "2005-08-05T03:09:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2005, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-august-04-2005/315669/41 "2005-08-05T20:21:12Z")
> [@minty green](#): > > Thank you for showing us the error of our ways, **Liberal**. Henceforth, we shall sin no more. Speak for yourself. I plan to sin quite a bit this weekend. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2005, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-august-04-2005/315669/42 "2005-08-05T20:22:01Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Why not take political threads to the Pit or GD? Isn’t this supposed to be a forum about the arts? Shouldn’t we be discussing the aesthetic aspects of the show? Do you think a thread about the Rush Limbaugh show, celibrating how he tore apart Hillary or bashed atheism would be appropriate here? I don’t. It would, of course, be a judgement call on the part of the mods whether this thread (or its topic) is more properly suited to CS, or GD or the Pit. I’m not the boss of you, **Lib** , and it would never occur to me to tell you what to do; but when I think that question should be addressed for any particular thread, I simply report the OP to the mods, raise my concerns, and ask them to adjudicate. As often as not, I do this without myself contributing to the thread in question. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2005, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-august-04-2005/315669/43 "2005-08-05T20:53:26Z")
Isn’t Cooter a Democrat? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2005, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-august-04-2005/315669/44 "2005-08-05T21:36:21Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Parallel? It’s more of a clone, isn’t it? Is there ever any purpose to these Jon Stewart threads other than communal leftwing peacocking? It’s always the same. Oh wow, did you guys watch Jon trash that Republican last night? The show is really making a comeback. Or… I thought Jon was way too soft on that conservative yesterday. The show is jumping the shark. Wellll Excoooose Me!! 😉 I am not a democrat. I am not leftwing. I am a moderate republican. I laughed my butt off within a few minutes of the show and started a thread. I have never, ever started a Jon Stewart thread before. It was funny, very funny episode. Why would you basically pit me in the Cafe? :mad: What did I do? I laughed at a comedy program. Yes, Jon is an admitted Dem, doesn’t make all his fans the same. I also use to love the HBO Dennis Miller show and I’ve heard him accused of being a right wing mouth piece. So to answer your question, the purpose was to appreciate the show. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2005, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-august-04-2005/315669/45 "2005-08-05T21:43:02Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > It would, of course, be a judgement call on the part of the mods whether this thread (or its topic) is more properly suited to CS, or GD or the Pit. I’m not the boss of you, **Lib** , and it would never occur to me to tell you what to do; but when I think that question should be addressed for any particular thread, I simply report the OP to the mods, raise my concerns, and ask them to adjudicate. As often as not, I do this without myself contributing to the thread in question. It was not an accident that I used question marks. I’m asking for the consensus here. I gave my opinion, yes, but I asked for yours as well. I haven’t told anyone what to do. It just seems like these Jon Stewart threads pop up like Jack Chick threads in the Pit. Why not do the Jack Chick threads here as well? It’s art, right? ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2005, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-august-04-2005/315669/46 "2005-08-05T21:43:41Z")
Like **jrfranchi** , I am a moderate Republican. There are about three more of us in America. I liked the episode. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2005, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-august-04-2005/315669/47 "2005-08-05T21:47:03Z")
> [@middleman](#): > > Like **jrfranchi** , I am a moderate Republican. > > There are about three more of us in America. > > I liked the episode. Really, there are 5 of us left. The only politician I know of still in office is McCain. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2005, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-august-04-2005/315669/48 "2005-08-05T22:02:13Z")
Hagel ain’t so bad… ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2005, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-august-04-2005/315669/49 "2005-08-05T22:41:40Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Why not take political threads to the Pit or GD? Isn’t this supposed to be a forum about the arts? Shouldn’t we be discussing the aesthetic aspects of the show? Do you think a thread about the Rush Limbaugh show, celibrating how he tore apart Hillary or bashed atheism would be appropriate here? I don’t. I do, at least in theory. Given the political makeup of the board, though, I have no doubt that it would eventually degenerate into something that would have to be moved to the pit. But if it stayed civil and on-topic, then I’d say it should stay in CS. Your Chick example, I think, is a little different in that those threads are created as pittings of the material being discussed. There’s a current pit thread doing the same thing to Lifetime Network movies. However, if someone wanted to actually discuss Chick tracts as a medium/art form/social commentary, ([like this site did](http://www.websnark.com/archives/2005/03/weds_falling_ou.html)) then it would probably be more appropriate in CS than in the pit. All in my non-mod opinion, of course. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2005, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-august-04-2005/315669/50 "2005-08-05T22:45:37Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > It was not an accident that I used question marks. I’m asking for the consensus here. I gave my opinion, yes, but I asked for yours as well. I haven’t told anyone what to do. It just seems like these Jon Stewart threads pop up like Jack Chick threads in the Pit. Why not do the Jack Chick threads here as well? It’s art, right? JFTR, I wasn’t trying to imply that you had told anyone what to do. My wording was an attempt to emphasize that by detailing my own procedure, I was offering a suggestion, not anything as strong as a demand, or even a request. With respect, **Lib** , asking for consensus on whether a thread is degenerating into a forum-inappropriate tone (or even whether the thread’s _raison d’etre_ is crypto-inappropriate, if you’ll allow me the neologism) strikes me as an invitation to engage in introspection and navel-gazing. There’s a time and a place for such exercises, of course, and even for invitations to such exercises. I’m not convinced that this thread is the time _or_ the place for either. In fact, my opinion is that it isn’t. Of course, if you object to my characterization of your “asking for consensus”, I won’t resent your rejection of my analysis. Nor will I pursue the issue. I feel that to do so would unnecessarily hijack the thread into being “about **Liberal** ,” and I think we get enough of those as it is. Peace. And please give my warmest regards to **Edlyn**. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2005, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-august-04-2005/315669/51 "2005-08-05T22:50:47Z")
The digs on NASA and the news media’s coverage of Flight 358 were also _very_ partisan… It’s true that last night’s show didn’t contain any digs at Democrats. There really wasn’t that much about Republicans _per se_, though. Novak has been in Stewart’s crosshairs for ages. Ditto Bill O’Reilly, who really hung himself with his own words. All Jon had to do with that quote was sit there and let everyone laugh at the absurdity. I enjoyed the joke about “children with only a passing acquiantance with the rules of logic,” though. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2005, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-august-04-2005/315669/52 "2005-08-05T23:27:02Z")
Jon Stewart’s funny. Liberal… not so much. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2005, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-august-04-2005/315669/53 "2005-08-05T23:38:01Z")
I believe that he has claimed to be liberal, although he doesn’t seem to be liberal on the economic side. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2005, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-august-04-2005/315669/54 "2005-08-05T23:42:17Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > I believe that he has claimed to be liberal, although he doesn’t seem to be liberal on the economic side. Heck, _you_ operate by your own definition of the word. Why not him? In any case, enough about you. I hadn’t previously seen the Jessica Simpson video. I’d tap that myself. And frankly, I hadn’t previously noticed how tight the jeans were on the Duke boys, but then I was a heterosexual male and ten years old. ---
**Author:** ![medstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@medstar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/medstar)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2005, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-august-04-2005/315669/55 "2005-08-06T00:27:06Z")
Upon seeing the title of this thread, did anyone else think that Jon Stewart died yesterday? Whew, I’m glad this was just a discussion of the latest show. ---
**Author:** ![billsfootballbuffulo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@billsfootballbuffulo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billsfootballbuffulo)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2005, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-august-04-2005/315669/56 "2005-08-06T00:38:10Z")
O’Reilly is not a Republican. He said so. Nevermind the voter registration. ---
**Author:** ![SlyFrog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SlyFrog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlyFrog)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2005, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-august-04-2005/315669/57 "2005-08-06T01:27:01Z")
> [@The Sausage Creature](#): > > I loved the Novak walk-out reaction. And “The O’Reilley Factor For Kids: With only a passing acquaintance with the rules of logic!” I know. I thought it was hilarious how they set this up, putting it in such close proximity to the joke about how because John McCain was tortured personally, he therefore had to know more about the general efficacy of torture than anyone who was not tortured personally. Thank god John Stewart is around to show how stupid these guys are. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2005, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-august-04-2005/315669/58 "2005-08-06T02:12:26Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > I believe that he has claimed to be liberal, although he doesn’t seem to be liberal on the economic side. Hmmm … liberal on the noneconomic side, nonliberal on the economic side … Doesn’t that kinda sound like the Libertarian party platform? ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2005, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-august-04-2005/315669/59 "2005-08-06T02:28:06Z")
Stewart’s Daily Show material is not anti-right-wing so much as it is anti-idiot and anti-bullshit. Why the bulk of his targets appear to be right-wingers is an exercise left for the reader. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2005, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-august-04-2005/315669/60 "2005-08-06T02:32:34Z")
You know it finally dawned on me that Liberal won. He took a nice little, Gee that was funny thread and turned it political. I guess this should now move. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-august-04-2005/315669.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-august-04-2005/315669.md?page=4)