# Jon Stewart gives up **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 5, 2010, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-gives-up/549261 "2010-08-05T13:19:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_the_Impaler)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-gives-up/549261/21 "2010-08-06T16:41:30Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > Especially since the Obama Health Care plan was supposed to offer affordable health care to everyone and dispense w/ pre-existing conditions. But not at least until 2014. These people have health problems directly related to their efforts at the WTC\* now\*. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-gives-up/549261/22 "2010-08-06T16:49:00Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > Why do we need a special bill just for 9/11 workers, especially one with a $1B price tag? (Holy shit!) Because some of them developed major health problems after working at the World Trade Center site, and sometimes the symptoms did not show up for a long period of time. And because at the time they went to work there, the government assured them the air at the site was safe. It was not. > [@PunditLisa](#): > > If there’s a loophole for foreign companies who should be paying taxes, then Congress should close the loophole. One has nothing to do with the other. Agreed. I was going to say this is how Congress works at this point, but I realized works is exactly the wrong word. And it’s true that the ‘these heroes didn’t die for a tax increase!’ rhetoric is staggeringly bad. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-gives-up/549261/23 "2010-08-06T16:53:11Z")
> [@Surbey](#): > > > [@PunditLisa](#): > > > > If there’s a loophole for foreign companies who should be paying taxes, then Congress should close the loophole. One has nothing to do with the other. > > It does when republicans consistently fight bills that aren’t being paid for. This loophole fix paid for the bill. Except when they are in power. Then paying for bills doesn’t matter. Anyhow it was a _gasp_ tax increase. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-gives-up/549261/24 "2010-08-06T16:55:42Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > He acknowledged that at the end of the show. It sounded like he was pretty upset, relatively speaking, and had some trouble bringing the funny. Besides the first segment, he had to pull comments out of the guy he was interviewing. That probably didn’t make things any more fun. The message of the show was that it is okay to get mad at the stupidity in Congress, made a tiny bit sweeter by being able to show a video of his friend getting mad on the floor. I’d vote for Wiener for President. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-gives-up/549261/25 "2010-08-06T21:16:38Z")
> [@niblet\_head](#): > > But not at least until 2014. These people have health problems directly related to their efforts at the WTC\* now\*. I’m sure lots of construction workers are having health problems directly related to working with black mold following post-Katrina. Where’s their bill? Not being argumentative with you, just saying that I think that this bill is irrational because it shows blatant favoritism to just one segment of society. I’m a justice for all kind of girl. Plus it’s blatantly manipulative. (I’m surprised they didn’t add in widows, orphans and puppies to the title.) Its “funding” is laughable. Oh, and it’s ripe for fraudulent claims. So, in this instance, I’m going to have to disagree with Stewart. Which is odd because we’re usually in synch with each other. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-gives-up/549261/26 "2010-08-06T21:34:56Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > I’m sure lots of construction workers are having health problems directly related to working with black mold following post-Katrina. Where’s their bill? If they prove they need it, there’s no reason they shouldn’t have one. But I get the impression you are not aware that this has been an issue for years. And it’s not just that they had health problems after doing rescue work. It’s that the government [told them it was safe to be down there](http://www.epa.gov/wtc/stories/headline_091801.htm), and it was not safe. A lot of these people now have chronic lung problems. I think a few have died. [This is a well known problem.](http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/04/07/911.rescue.lungs/index.html) > [@](#): > > New York City Fire Department rescue workers who were exposed to this polluted air – as well as the kicked-up dust and diesel exhaust that accompanied the rescue effort – had reduced lung function in the weeks and months following the attacks, researchers in New York found at the time. > > Now, in a new study in the New England Journal of Medicine, the same researchers report that the lung impairment they observed in the rescue workers appears to be lasting. Firefighters and emergency medical personnel continued to have decreased lung function up to seven years after 9/11, the study found. > > […]Considerable financial interests are at stake in the debate. Last month, New York City officials reached a settlement of up to $657.5 million with some 10,000 firefighters, police officers, construction workers, and other responders who claimed that they developed chronic conditions such as asthma after being exposed to Ground Zero dust. (A week later, however, a federal judge objected to the terms of the settlement and said it would be renegotiated.) It’s a mom and apple pie issue, sure. That doesn’t mean there is nothing happening here. > [@](#): > > I’m a justice for all kind of girl. I think it’s just to compensate rescue workers who suffered major health problems as a result of doing their jobs. Especially when the government fucked up and wound up misleading them about the job they were doing. > [@](#): > > Oh, and it’s ripe for fraudulent claims. I think it’s pretty well known who was down there and who wasn’t. Fire departments and police departments keep track of their members. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_the_Impaler)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-gives-up/549261/27 "2010-08-06T21:49:31Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > > [@niblet\_head](#): > > > > But not at least until 2014. These people have health problems directly related to their efforts at the WTC\* now\*. > > I’m sure lots of construction workers are having health problems directly related to working with black mold following post-Katrina. Where’s their bill? > > Not being argumentative with you, just saying that I think that this bill is irrational because it shows blatant favoritism to just one segment of society. I’m a justice for all kind of girl. Plus it’s blatantly manipulative. (I’m surprised they didn’t add in widows, orphans and puppies to the title.) Its “funding” is laughable. Oh, and it’s ripe for fraudulent claims. > > So, in this instance, I’m going to have to disagree with Stewart. Which is odd because we’re usually in synch with each other. Agree regarding the Katrina workers, but I was addressing specifically your comment regarding health care reform. It’s not relevant to the issue, as it doesn’t even go into effect for years. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-gives-up/549261/28 "2010-08-06T22:55:10Z")
[Link for Canadian viewers.](http://watch.thecomedynetwork.ca/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart/full-episodes/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart---august-4-2010/#clip331908) ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-gives-up/549261/29 "2010-08-06T23:49:01Z")
I was just amazed at that segment. Oh sure, I already knew what Congress had done, and I’d already seen the clip of Weiner a few times . . . but Stewart’s accompanying rage was right-on and totally justified. And I must say, Anthony Weiner is the hottest person in government in my long, long memory. I’d beg for the pleasure of doing him. ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2010, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-gives-up/549261/30 "2010-08-07T00:21:49Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > And I must say, Anthony Weiner is the hottest person in government in my long, long memory. I’d beg for the pleasure of doing him. wtf no. My vote goes to Harold Ford, Jr. ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2010, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-gives-up/549261/31 "2010-08-07T07:29:00Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I think it’s just to compensate rescue workers who suffered major health problems as a result of doing their jobs. Especially when the government fucked up and wound up misleading them about the job they were doing. It’s pretty generous to categorize this “fucking up and winding up misleading.” At the time the gov’t said it was safe I knew it wasn’t, and practically anyone who knows anything about industrial safety had to know it wasn’t. It was just a nice fat comforting lie, and I was pretty mad about it at the time, despite all the “everyone pulls together” crap in the news. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-gives-up/549261/32 "2010-08-07T19:57:25Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > > [@niblet\_head](#): > > > > But not at least until 2014. These people have health problems directly related to their efforts at the WTC\* now\*. > > I’m sure lots of construction workers are having health problems directly related to working with black mold following post-Katrina. Where’s their bill? > > Not being argumentative with you, just saying that I think that this bill is irrational because it shows blatant favoritism to just one segment of society. I’m a justice for all kind of girl. Plus it’s blatantly manipulative. (I’m surprised they didn’t add in widows, orphans and puppies to the title.) Its “funding” is laughable. Oh, and it’s ripe for fraudulent claims. > > So, in this instance, I’m going to have to disagree with Stewart. Which is odd because we’re usually in synch with each other. The more I think about this, the more I reluctantly agree with this. This bill is about the optics, not doing the right thing for the right reasons, in my opinion. ALL firemen/policemen/paramedics/whatever should have full medical coverage to cover the damage that is inflicted on their bodies through their work, not just ones who were involved in 9/11. Maybe they do already; I don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![Gustav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Gustav](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gustav)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-gives-up/549261/33 "2010-08-07T20:51:01Z")
Yes, I imagine the republicans are hard at work drafting a bill that covers everyone as we speak. ---
**Author:** ![Serenata67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/serenata67/32/10646_2.png) [@Serenata67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Serenata67)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2010, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-gives-up/549261/34 "2010-08-07T23:42:24Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > good segment, but yeah, more depressing than funny Very much so. I enjoy John Stewart, and while I like his delivery and the humor he is able to inject, the whole subject is more depressing than it is funny. But John Stewart pulls it off as best can be done. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2010, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-gives-up/549261/35 "2010-08-07T23:56:25Z")
I enjoy Jon Stewart, but the OP’s episode seems quite a bit over the top. Anyone else feel Jon must have had a chemical “boost” before doing that particular show? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2010, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-gives-up/549261/36 "2010-08-08T00:00:09Z")
Yes, let’s say don’t help out one group of people because they aren’t helping out everyone. That’s just as stupid as not helping them out in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2010, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-gives-up/549261/37 "2010-08-08T00:01:10Z")
> [@Musicat](#): > > I enjoy Jon Stewart, but the OP’s episode seems quite a bit over the top. Anyone else feel Jon must have had a chemical “boost” before doing that particular show? Why? All he did was act like he was going to cry, and act depressed. If that took chemical help, then I feel very sorry for the guy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-gives-up/549261.md?page=1)