# Jon Stewart on Crossfire **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 15, 2004, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-on-crossfire/269457 "2004-10-15T21:03:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-on-crossfire/269457/21 "2004-10-15T22:25:43Z")
Sorry - wrong thread. I don’t know how this ended up here, but that would have been quite a hijack indeed. Move along, nothing to see here… ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-on-crossfire/269457/22 "2004-10-15T22:38:46Z")
> [@Xan](#): > > For some reason it seemed like both Tucker and Paul were getting a little annoyed with Jon, Tucker more so. Inferiority complex? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-on-crossfire/269457/23 "2004-10-15T22:42:08Z")
Finished the transcript. Oh, God, I want to see that show. That was great! I loved when the hosts got all defensive and tried to turn it around on Jon by accusing him of being soft on Kerry when he was on The Daily Show. Hey, idiots! The reason he was soft on Kerry is because _he’s satirizing your show_! The entire point of TDS is pointing out the absurdity and dishonesty of mainstream news. If you morons were doing your jobs, Jon would be out of his! I also loved the bit where Tucker Carlson asked him why he wasn’t being funny. Not because of Jon’s response (which was great) but because, judging by the transcript, the audience thought he was a riot. It’s only not funny when it’s you he’s talking about, Tuck. ---
**Author:** ![Chastain86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Chastain86](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chastain86)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-on-crossfire/269457/24 "2004-10-15T22:49:43Z")
I am extremely sorry I didn’t see that show, but let me tell you: If the Crossfire hosts are unhappy that Jon didn’t ask hard-hitting enough questions, they should certainly be pleased that he didn’t pull any punches on telling them how little he regards Crossfire. Hooo. That was brutal. ---
**Author:** ![chula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@chula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chula)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-on-crossfire/269457/25 "2004-10-15T22:55:37Z")
I wish I had seen that. It sounds like Tucker really started to take his criticisms personally. I don’t get to watch the Daily Show either. ☹ That’s the only thing that would make the election tolerable. ---
**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-on-crossfire/269457/26 "2004-10-15T23:46:36Z")
That does it. I’m in love with Jon Stewart. ---
**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-on-crossfire/269457/27 "2004-10-16T00:19:30Z")
Here’s a link to the a bittorrent that is a recording of the show. Apparantly CNN doesn’t do repeats so this may be the only way to watch it for those who missed it. [http://bitflood.org:8080/?file=791b2f5d95a54d1381b85f271b51f71e73964185](http://bitflood.org:8080/?file=791b2f5d95a54d1381b85f271b51f71e73964185) My favourite bit (paraphrased): > [@](#): > > Bowtie guy “What do you think about the Bill O’Reilly vibrator story?” > > Stewart “I don’t.” ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-on-crossfire/269457/28 "2004-10-16T00:20:18Z")
There’s a thread on Democratic Underground with links to a video and an audio. I couldn’t get the video to work, and neither could my husband, so you might want to skip that until a good copy is posted. The mp3 worked just fine though, and it was better hearing the audio than reading the transcript. I wish I’d seen it. Jon Stewart is a god. [http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view\_all&address=109x14508](http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=109x14508) ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-on-crossfire/269457/29 "2004-10-16T00:21:43Z")
> [@Silentgoldfish](#): > > Here’s a link to the a bittorrent that is a recording of the show. Apparantly CNN doesn’t do repeats so this may be the only way to watch it for those who missed it. > > [http://bitflood.org:8080/?file=791b2f5d95a54d1381b85f271b51f71e73964185](http://bitflood.org:8080/?file=791b2f5d95a54d1381b85f271b51f71e73964185) > > My favourite bit (paraphrased): Whoops, I crossed your post! Thanks for that link. Bless bittorrent! ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-on-crossfire/269457/30 "2004-10-16T00:22:15Z")
I don’t know… from the transcript it seems to me as though Steward never got to really say anything substantive. Not his fault… he just couldn’t really get a word in for the most part… I get that he doesn’t like Crosstalk, and he think’s its part of the problem and not really a debate show even though it presents itself as one. But he never was able to really explain himself. So I felt unedified. Say, does his recent book get into any of this? -FrL- ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-on-crossfire/269457/31 "2004-10-16T00:44:52Z")
That transcript was a thing of beauty. [paraphrasing Al Pacino in “And Justice for All”] No - you’re out of order. You’re out of order!! [/paraphrasing Al Pacino in “And Justice for All”] Stewart clearly saw his opening and took a hard shot. More power to him. I love the fact that both sides got it with both barrels, but I love the fact that he dismissed Carlson with the bow tie comment. Be done with you… ---
**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-on-crossfire/269457/32 "2004-10-16T00:57:50Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > I don’t know… from the transcript it seems to me as though Steward never got to really say anything substantive. > > Not his fault… he just couldn’t really get a word in for the most part… > > I get that he doesn’t like Crosstalk, and he think’s its part of the problem and not really a debate show even though it presents itself as one. > > But he never was able to really explain himself. Unfortunatly true I think. But that reflects his point. It’s theater. And when he didn’t fit into to the role he was supposed to play they had no idea what to do but try to get him back on script. Which is not different from the usual approach to “serious” interviews. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-on-crossfire/269457/33 "2004-10-16T01:02:43Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > Say, does his recent book get into any of this? > > -FrL- Yep. He’s got a whole chapter on the role of the media in democracy. Here it is, in full: > [@](#): > > **Chapter 7 > The Media: Democracy’s Guardian Angel** > A free and independent press is essential to the health of a functioning democracy. It serves to inform the voting public on matters relevant to its well-being. Why they’ve stoped doing this is a mystery. I mean, 300 camera crews outside a courthouse to see what Kobe Bryant is wearing when the judge sets his hearing date, while false information used to send our country to war goes unchecked? What the fuck happened? These spineless cowards in the press have finally gone too far. They have violated a trust. “Was the president succesful in convincing the country?” Who gives a shit? Why not tell us if what he said was _true_? And the excuses. My God, the excuses! “Hey, we just give the people what they want.” “What can we do, this administration is secretive.” “But the last season of _Friends_ really is news.” The unmitigated gall of these weak willed… You’re supposed to be helping us, you indecent piles of shit! I… fuck it. Just fuck it… Okay, the very next chapter is _also_ called Chapter 7: The Media. (This time subtitled "Democracy’s Valiant Vulgarians) and features many, many more words. But, more or less, exactly the same sentiment. Good book. Highly recommended. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-on-crossfire/269457/34 "2004-10-16T01:15:58Z")
> [@betenoir](#): > > That does it. I’m in love with Jon Stewart. Hey-back off! He’s mine, I saw him first! Hehehe!!! 😃 Was Carlson serious, or kidding when he asked why Jon Stewart doesn’t ask hard hitting questions on his show. Which is a comedy show. And did Stewart actually say “dick” on tv, without getting bleeped? (BTW, do I lose my Loony LeftistTM membership if I confess that I find Tucker Carlson cute? He’s just so adorable with that floppy hair and the little bow-tie). ---
**Author:** ![pokey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ebca7d/32.png) [@pokey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pokey)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-on-crossfire/269457/35 "2004-10-16T02:32:43Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Yep. He’s got a whole chapter on the role of the media in democracy. In the audiobook he delivers that chapter with such bewilderment and outrage that by the end only dogs can hear him. I’ve never seen Crosstalk til now but WOW it looks awful. That bowtie guy was really worthless. How can you have a debate show where one of the hosts has no ability to reason? The part where he asks Jon whether he gives lectures to his dinner companions is gold. What the hell? Yes, a debate show guest should be like a good dinner companion. Just tell jokes and be charming! I can’t even imagine how his point could have come across any more clearly. > [@Guinastasia](#): > > do I lose my Loony LeftistTM membership if I confess that I find Tucker Carlson cute? No. You just lose your ovaries ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-on-crossfire/269457/36 "2004-10-16T02:43:52Z")
Oh, I still think he’s a git. Just an attractive git, that’s all. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-on-crossfire/269457/37 "2004-10-16T02:48:58Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Hey-back off! He’s mine, I saw him first! Hehehe!!! 😃 > > Was Carlson serious, or kidding when he asked why Jon Stewart doesn’t ask hard hitting questions on his show. Which is a comedy show. He was absolutely, 100% serious. Stewart’s response was, “The show that leads into my show is puppets making crank phone calls.” > [@](#): > > And did Stewart actually say “dick” on tv, without getting bleeped? Yup. ---
**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-on-crossfire/269457/38 "2004-10-16T02:53:02Z")
Salon has a nice little piece called [Jon Stewart straightens Tucker’s bow-tie](http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/index.html#crossfire), if you can stand watching the dumb commerical to get into their site. Wish I could get bit torrents to work. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![EsotericEnigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e274bd/32.png) [@EsotericEnigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EsotericEnigma)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-on-crossfire/269457/39 "2004-10-16T02:59:49Z")
I saw some clips on IFilm. If you can stand ifilm, the link is here. if you don’t have bittorrent, the link is here. [http://www.ifilm.com/filmdetail?ifilmid=2652831](http://www.ifilm.com/filmdetail?ifilmid=2652831) Just click the 200k link for high speeds, the one above it for lower speeds. ---
**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-on-crossfire/269457/40 "2004-10-16T03:23:21Z")
Thank you, **EsotericEnigma**. Sweet Jesus, that was very entertaining. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-on-crossfire/269457.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-on-crossfire/269457.md?page=3)