# Jon Stewart - Return to the Daily Show - The Pit Edition

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**Created:** [February 15, 2024, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-return-to-the-daily-show-the-pit-edition/997614 "2024-02-15T18:37:45Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-return-to-the-daily-show-the-pit-edition/997614/42 "2024-02-15T21:29:17Z")

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> [@Jon Stewart returns to The Daily Show!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-returns-to-the-daily-show/996614/68):
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> > [@Jon Stewart returns to The Daily Show!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-returns-to-the-daily-show/996614/68):
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> > > [@Jon Stewart returns to The Daily Show!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jon-stewart-returns-to-the-daily-show/996614/68):
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> > > Is Stewart’s job to be a shill for Biden or the party? ⁢
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> > Sure. But these are unprecedented times, with extremely high stakes. JS has the possibility to have an impact on the results of the next election. If we end up with Trump, I hope he will look back fondly on having “commented on reality as he sees it.”
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> > Moreover, 70s-80s is older than I desire my lawmakers. But despite his apparent gaffes (which are not new), it is hard to claim Biden has not surrounded himself with competent people and stewarded a positive agenda. Being glib on-the-spot may not be all that important WRT being a good president. ⁢
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> I shall try to tiptoe the line to keep this just about Jon Stewart. He is pointing out issues that are clear and apparent to everybody outside of the Dope. Not mentioning them does not make them go away. It is clear to me that there are things that are new and not due to his stuttering. It’s hard not to see after watching Biden my entire adult life. I don’t expect Stewart to close his eyes and stick his fingers in his ears. He’s going to comment on what is actually happening. It’s not all perfect on one side which is going to be a problem during the election. Pretending it isn’t will not make it go away. ⁢

Since this is in the Pit, I can finally call this out for what this is. This is a fucking strawman. It’s a dishonest manner of arguing.

The issue is not that Biden is old, or stumbles over his words. It’s that Jon decided to frame this as Biden going senile. We all know that Biden has stutter, and that said stutter has gotten worse over time.

You are exactly the reason why this is a problem. You believe this very strongly. Jon has a responsibility to show the other side. THAT’S HIS FUCKING JOB.

Someone literally posted a doctors report showing that Biden is not in cognitive decline. He is not senile nor does he have dementia. You dismissed that with a single line.

That’s what’s dangerous about this talking point. People have a tendency to believe things they think they came up with themselves over experts. Stewart, with his platform, could have helped fix that. Instead, he played into it. He did exactly what I hated Bill Maher for doing, when he played into the San Fransisco argument. The issue was not the facts, but the framing.

You guys keep on acting like framing and facts are the same thing They aren’t. The issue is not Jon discussing the facts. It’s him framing it as the conclusion that Biden has “lost a step”–which is calling him senile. Which is a Republican framing to try and help Trump win.

Basic logic here: if you don’t want Trump to win, you don’t play into his talking points. This is like if Jon talked about the invasion at the border, instead of just discussing immigration issues.

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