# Jonathan Chance, I think this thread deserved a Warning **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [March 15, 2017, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-i-think-this-thread-deserved-a-warning/782228 "2017-03-15T12:18:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-i-think-this-thread-deserved-a-warning/782228/21 "2017-03-15T19:42:11Z")
I think the point is if you believ a post, even an OP, in this forum is overly political, report it. There is no excuse to respond in kind. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-i-think-this-thread-deserved-a-warning/782228/22 "2017-03-15T22:11:50Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > When an OP in ATMB is a politically motivated post, it is difficult to address it properly without getting into politics. There is a reason to point out that the OP did not make such a request with Obama, as it shows that the OP’s stated reasoning is not their actual motivation. That’s totally specious. Remember how the Dope slants politically. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-i-think-this-thread-deserved-a-warning/782228/23 "2017-03-15T22:19:57Z")
You might also remember that I am not American. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-i-think-this-thread-deserved-a-warning/782228/24 "2017-03-15T22:44:02Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > You might also remember that I am not American. It shows. If you think this would get the Secret Service’s attention, you know jackshit about U.S. law. Seriously, what is it with your little crush on Trump? Disappear the thread? Overkill much? This has got to be one of the most retarded suggestions I’ve seen yet. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-i-think-this-thread-deserved-a-warning/782228/25 "2017-03-15T23:31:06Z")
I’d say [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=819917) was pretty similar. Note mod instruction in post #11. Thread close when OP did not return with a fleshed out debate. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-i-think-this-thread-deserved-a-warning/782228/26 "2017-03-16T00:20:12Z")
**Moderator Note** > [@Guinastasia](#): > > It shows. If you think this would get the Secret Service’s attention, you know jackshit about U.S. law. Seriously, what is it with your little crush on Trump? Disappear the thread? Overkill much? This has got to be one of the most retarded suggestions I’ve seen yet. This isn’t the Pit. Posts in ATMB are expected to be a lot more respectful towards other posters than this. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-i-think-this-thread-deserved-a-warning/782228/27 "2017-03-16T02:49:05Z")
Sorry. I still say though that the idea of disappearing the thread is completely asinine. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-i-think-this-thread-deserved-a-warning/782228/28 "2017-03-16T02:56:04Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Sorry. I still say though that the idea of disappearing the thread is completely asinine. 9000 thumbs up. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-i-think-this-thread-deserved-a-warning/782228/29 "2017-03-16T02:59:43Z")
**Quartz** , over in Great Debates there’s an active thread in which someone is, and I’m not exaggerating, denying the Holocaust. Like, “Zyklon B was used for delousing” level arguments. And you’re worried that someone is speculating about a Trump goon squad? THAT’s what ou think needs a warning? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-i-think-this-thread-deserved-a-warning/782228/30 "2017-03-16T06:28:20Z")
I’ve never understood the idea that one should not complain about X because Y exists, and Y is worse than X. You can always find something that is worse than Y, too. Each thing stands on its own. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-i-think-this-thread-deserved-a-warning/782228/31 "2017-03-16T07:02:17Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I’ve never understood the idea that one should not complain about X because Y exists, and Y is worse than X. You can always find something that is worse than Y, too. Each thing stands on its own. So using comparisons aren’t valid to determine standards here aren’t valid? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-i-think-this-thread-deserved-a-warning/782228/32 "2017-03-16T10:02:46Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > We’ve seen lots of instances where the mods have told folks: “I don’t see a debate here. Unless you return today to flesh this out, I’m closing the thread”. This thread seems like a prime case for that treatment. Do the mods usually issue a Warning when they do that, though, like the OP wants? Or disappear the thread rather than closing, again like **Quartz** wants? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-i-think-this-thread-deserved-a-warning/782228/33 "2017-03-16T12:54:18Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I’ve never understood the idea that one should not complain about X because Y exists, and Y is worse than X. You can always find something that is worse than Y, too. Each thing stands on its own. I don’t have a ton of interest in explaining this to you, but I’ll give it one try. Here’s the thing. **Quartz** thinks posts in GD that are insufficiently cited should be warned and disappeared, but his example is a mild wild-ass speculation about Trump, rather than genuine holocaust denial, even though they’re happening concurrently. I’m not super-clear on what it is he wants banned. This looks a bit like what he’s actually wanting is a higher standard of proof applied to claims about Trump than the standard applied to the MF Holocaust. I ask my question to clarify if this is really what he’s saying, or if there’s some other difference that I’m not seeing. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-i-think-this-thread-deserved-a-warning/782228/34 "2017-03-16T14:51:24Z")
There is another thread in the pit right now that was moved there. It is discussing how the ADA resulted in the removal of free online course content and this is a great tragedy, and how the liberals are to blame. There is impressive well poisoning in the OP. should it also be disappeared? ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-i-think-this-thread-deserved-a-warning/782228/35 "2017-03-16T15:28:38Z")
I think the OP just needs to report the offending thread and move on … if the moderators don’t do anything about the report, well that’s their business … focusing on just one moderator is unfair since we know they work in collusion … _One Rule to mind them all, One Rule to find them, One Rule to bring them all and in the darkness bind them_ ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-i-think-this-thread-deserved-a-warning/782228/36 "2017-03-16T15:28:48Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > There is another thread in the pit right now that was moved there. It is discussing how the ADA resulted in the removal of free online course content and this is a great tragedy, and how the liberals are to blame. There is impressive well poisoning in the OP. should it also be disappeared? I disagree. I don’t think the HD thread in the Pit was an example of anything other than the OP taking a position on an issue, and I highly doubt if something comparable would have been moved to the Pit if it were started by a liberal and aimed at conservatives. [FTR, I don’t agree with the OP of this (ATMB) thread.] ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-i-think-this-thread-deserved-a-warning/782228/37 "2017-03-16T15:42:51Z")
This is perhaps the worst complaint about moderation that I have seen in this forum. The idea that threads critical of Trump need to pass an extra level of scrutiny, otherwise the OPs are punished for saying not-nice things, is so patently absurd that I would think it is a joke if the post were not written so earnestly. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-i-think-this-thread-deserved-a-warning/782228/38 "2017-03-16T21:15:09Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > I disagree. I don’t think the HD thread in the Pit was an example of anything other than the OP taking a position on an issue, and I highly doubt if something comparable would have been moved to the Pit if it were started by a liberal and aimed at conservatives. [Here’s one.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=818015) Started by a liberal, aimed at conservatives, and moved to the Pit within a few hours. Ironically it’s actually a lot more innocuous than either the HD thread or the one the OP is complaining about, but into the Pit it went anyway, in the process tearing your accusation to shreds. [Here’s another.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=817595) I’m sure there are dozens if one wanted to browse the history just a few more months. You might want to rethink this allegation that the board suffers from nefariously biased moderation. I’ve yet to see any evidence for it. And yes, the OP’s complaint is absurd. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-i-think-this-thread-deserved-a-warning/782228/39 "2017-03-17T17:08:33Z")
I disagree, especially about the first. But probably too subjective an issue to fruitfully discuss. ---
**Author:** ![Ace309](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ace309/32/1050_2.png) [@Ace309](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ace309)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-i-think-this-thread-deserved-a-warning/782228/40 "2017-03-17T20:26:07Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > That post I mentioned I reported may well have attracted the attention of the Secret Service. I’m curious if you have any basis for this suggestion. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-i-think-this-thread-deserved-a-warning/782228.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-i-think-this-thread-deserved-a-warning/782228.md?page=3)