# Jonathan Chance: So What is the Official List of Things You Want Me to Remain Silent About

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Emphasis added. I don’t see that being said by **Chen** and **Chief**. Those that take that line of reasoning do get banned, like **Polecat**.

I guess. It depends what level of implication you’re willing to infer from their statements.

For example, **New Deal Democrat** said:

> [@SDMB Bigoted Asshole Omnibus Thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/20):
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> I have documented that blacks have high crime rates, and low average intelligence.

I guess that it could be that such a statement might not be saying anything about racial inferiority. I’m willing to concede that the possibility is greater than 0.00001 percent that **NDD** isn’t making an argument about superiority and inferiority here. After all, claiming that a particular group is of low intelligence and prone to crime carries no negative connotations in our society.

It’s also worth nothing that the statement itself is problematic for other reasons. If he had said that blacks have lower SAT scores (as in **Shodan** ’s example), or lower IQ scores, then that at least might have some basis. But simply saying “low average intelligence” is not the same thing, because it suggests that the low measured scores are themselves a reflection of inherent characteristics and a completely universal and objective measure of intelligence, rather than a product of particular social and cultural and economic opportunity and environment.

> [@XT](#):
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> Right, but DT actually said those things. You are (I assume) implying the others from the context of what those others wrote by reading between the lines. It’s completely different. My guess is if anyone DID say what you said in your 3rd example they would have been, at minimum, warned for trolling. Correct?

Probably.

My point was not to defend **Der Trihs** with that post. It was simply to note that **Shodan** ’s examples did not adequately note the scientific racialist position.

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