# Jonathan Chance, where IS that list of things I'm supposed to remain silent on? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [May 10, 2014, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-where-is-that-list-of-things-im-supposed-to-remain-silent-on/688147 "2014-05-10T21:08:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-where-is-that-list-of-things-im-supposed-to-remain-silent-on/688147/121 "2014-05-12T11:19:58Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > That’s irrelevant and you _know that_. Yeah blah blah blah blah, but you _know that_. “He did it too!” is not a good argument. > > And you _know that_. Of course I know that. That’s completely missing the point that the post I was specifically addressing was saying **Terr** hadn’t done this. At no point did I say **DT** wasn’t guilty _because_ **Terr** was also guilty. _That_ would be the Fallacy. See, I already anticipated this argument. > [@bldysabba](#): > > I don’t see how anticipating a poster’s (extremely) predictable behaviour is trolling. Especially when you’re trying to express a milder version of the poster’s screed. Calling them out by name? Sicks could have posted the rest of his post without the mild **DT** dig and it wouldn’t change the substantive content. So the DT dig is just that - a dig, an attempt to distance himself from **DT’s** \*tone \*(while spouting the same opinions). Like I said, very mild trolling. > [@bldysabba](#): > > As armedmonkey points out, you know you’re committing a fallacy Nope, I know that the Fallacy is pertinent to the case, but _I_ didn’t commit it. See above. > [@](#): > > May I suggest you open another thread? Because frankly, I agree that Terr’s remarks deserve moderation, and would rather the issue not be conflated. Then _you_ open another thread. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-where-is-that-list-of-things-im-supposed-to-remain-silent-on/688147/122 "2014-05-12T11:21:38Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > Well, I did not Mod it because I never saw it and no one reported it. My guess is that Jonathan Chance may also have not seen it. > At this point, I will not go back three days and over 200 posts to add a note. I have Modded such shots at uninvolved posters and I will continue to do so. However, the seriousness of the offense does tend to set up a sort of “statute of limitations” on many offenses and I judge that it has expired on that particular post. Fair enough. But should I report such things in future, I can expect some Mod response, I take it? (Possibly to me, to tell me I’m overreacting, that’s OK) ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-where-is-that-list-of-things-im-supposed-to-remain-silent-on/688147/123 "2014-05-12T11:30:55Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > . See, I already anticipated this argument. Umm… you can’t anticipate something after the fact. At this point I’m having a hard time taking you seriously, so I’ll just log out for now. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-where-is-that-list-of-things-im-supposed-to-remain-silent-on/688147/124 "2014-05-12T11:37:38Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > Umm… you can’t anticipate something after the fact. What, you raised the FoTW with me before in this thread? Cite? > [@](#): > > At this point I’m having a hard time taking you seriously, so I’ll just log out for now. Or you can do that.:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-where-is-that-list-of-things-im-supposed-to-remain-silent-on/688147/125 "2014-05-12T11:47:50Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > No oookay. So you respond twice to the same post of mine, ignoring the clarification I posted after your first response? And then when I point you back to that clarification, your answer is “No”? Keep on keepin’ on, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-where-is-that-list-of-things-im-supposed-to-remain-silent-on/688147/126 "2014-05-12T12:00:53Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Calling them out by name? Sicks could have posted the rest of his post without the mild **DT** dig and it wouldn’t change the substantive content. So the DT dig is just that - a dig, an attempt to distance himself from **DT’s** \*tone \*(while spouting the same opinions). > > Like I said, very mild trolling. Since his prediction was 100% accurate does that make him a mild troll or a psychic? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-where-is-that-list-of-things-im-supposed-to-remain-silent-on/688147/127 "2014-05-12T12:07:47Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Since his prediction was 100% accurate does that make him a mild troll or a psychic? I’ve made comments in posts similar before, about DT. When I’ve done it, it’s not been to poke DT, but rather to try to head him off, and I think I don’t mention his name (I’m too lazy to go look it up). That is, if I’m starting a thread about partisan politics, or religion, I don’t want it to get derailed into a discussion of whether Republicans really are devils or whatever, so I’ll sometimes make some comment along the lines of, “And yes, I know some of you think Republicans are devils, so if we can just let that be understood, maybe we can move on to a different discussion.” I do think there’s a place for such comments, but it’s probably good to leave out names. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-where-is-that-list-of-things-im-supposed-to-remain-silent-on/688147/128 "2014-05-12T12:20:57Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > oookay. So you respond twice to the same post of mine, ignoring the clarification I posted after your first response? And then when I point you back to that clarification, your answer is “No”? > > Keep on keepin’ on, I guess. **Mr Dibble** explained it in post 90. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-where-is-that-list-of-things-im-supposed-to-remain-silent-on/688147/129 "2014-05-12T12:23:44Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > **Mr Dibble** explained it in post 90. If you’re making a clever point, spell it out, because I too dumb. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-where-is-that-list-of-things-im-supposed-to-remain-silent-on/688147/130 "2014-05-12T12:40:59Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > If you’re making a clever point, spell it out, because I too dumb. I’m not making a clever point. I fucked up. Somehow, I got you and **MrDibble** mixed up. I just wasn’t paying attention. The snark I posted and thought was kinda funny, though mildly inappropriate for ATMB, doesn’t even work when I realize you are two fucking different people. God damn, I’m an idiot. This isn’t a joke, I really did fuck up here. And I apologize. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-where-is-that-list-of-things-im-supposed-to-remain-silent-on/688147/131 "2014-05-12T13:14:42Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > Which figures into the judgment regarding “statute of limitations.” > However, as phrased, had I seen it, I would have told the poster to not call out other posters in that way. It is one thing to invoke one of our lawyer posters by saying “_can we get a legal opinion from **PosterA**?_” It is a bit different to say “_I want to get my view posted before **PosterB** gets here and muddies the water._” As someone already noted, there was no prediction that **PosterB** was going to muddle the water. The person in question was agreeing with what **PosterB** had said in other threads on the same subject. It might not be kosher to call anyone out by name before they enter a thread, but this wasn’t a case of someone take a pot shot at another poster. ---
**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-where-is-that-list-of-things-im-supposed-to-remain-silent-on/688147/132 "2014-05-12T13:22:35Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Calling them out by name? Sicks could have posted the rest of his post without the mild **DT** dig and it wouldn’t change the substantive content. So the DT dig is just that - a dig, an attempt to distance himself from **DT’s** \*tone \*(while spouting the same opinions). > > Like I said, very mild trolling. That’s just the thing, I don’t see the dig at DT. I could see it if he had presented DT in a negative light in that post. I don’t think he’s done so though. To me, that post just says “Before DT says it, I’ll say it”. That doesn’t seem to be even very mild trolling. > [@](#): > > Then _you_ open another thread. I don’t care. I thought you did, because you were arguing about it. Clearly neither of us care, so we can drop it. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-where-is-that-list-of-things-im-supposed-to-remain-silent-on/688147/133 "2014-05-12T13:33:18Z")
> [@bldysabba](#): > > That’s just the thing, I don’t see the dig at DT. I could see it if he had presented DT in a negative light in that post. I don’t think he’s done so though. To me, that post just says “Before DT says it, I’ll say it”. That doesn’t seem to be even very mild trolling. That’s not how I read it - to me, the implication was “before **DT** derails this particular train of thought with vitriol, let me just get this point across” - anyway, like I said, I consider it a very mild dig, just worthy of a “Tut tut”, probably not worth even an explicit Note as such. But to me, there is certainly a hint of anticipation there. A certain lawn-chairy-pullingness, if you will. Or I could be completely misreading it, I dunno. It doesn’t toast my biscuits, I’m happy with **tom** ’s explanation. I just personally feel **DT** might get along with others a bit better if even the people on his own side (as much as there are) weren’t constantly needling him. But that might just be me. > [@](#): > > I don’t care. I thought you did, because you were arguing about it. Clearly neither of us care, so we can drop it. Fair enough. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-where-is-that-list-of-things-im-supposed-to-remain-silent-on/688147/134 "2014-05-12T13:47:38Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > God damn, I’m an idiot. And you’re armed. That gives me an uneasy feeling. > [@MrDibble](#): > > I just personally feel **DT** might get along with others a bit better if even the people on his own side (as much as there are) weren’t constantly needling him. This is not sport. There are no teams. There is not one person on here that agrees with every single thought of mine. So I’m a team of one. Even if someone agrees with a particular subject with me they can still go about expressing themselves in an obnoxious way that I would criticize. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-where-is-that-list-of-things-im-supposed-to-remain-silent-on/688147/135 "2014-05-12T14:48:42Z")
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