# Jonathan Chance, you are being silly.

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**Created:** [March 21, 2015, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616 "2015-03-21T16:59:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/1 "2015-03-21T16:59:15Z")

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I’ve been critical of some of **BrainGlutton** ’s threads in the past, especially his tendency to start a thread with nothing more than a cut-and-paste quotation and a link.

But your recent moderating of his posts about Ben Carson is silly. Despite the fact that the three posts he made were identical, each was completely appropriate and relevant for the thread in which it was posted.

[First post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18222769#post18222769)  
[Second post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18222777#post18222777)  
[Third post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18222784#post18222784)

Most ridiculous was your moderating of his contribution to the Stupid Republican Idea of the Day thread. That thread contains over 20,000 posts. It is one of the longest threads in the history of these boards, and there are literally hundreds—probably thousands—of posts in that thread that contain little more than a link and a quote.

Your decision to moderate each of those instances was not only dumb, it had a more detrimental effect on those threads than the posts you were moderating.

As i said, i think that there \*\*\*are \*\*\*times when **BrainGlutton** posts in non-productive ways, especially when he is the thread creator and simply starts a thread with a link and a quote. But those posts were completely fine in the context of the three threads where they appeared.

If you have a throat problem, take some medicine rather than looking for excuses to clear it in public.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/2 "2015-03-21T17:10:07Z")

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I will require some guidance if I am to maintain my pristine purity (fifteen years and only banned once!). Every so often, I find a link/quote that so eloquently speaks for itself, I will cut and paste it with nothing more than a snide notice that I find comment unnecessary. Less often, I will deploy precisely the same post in two places where I think it appropriate.

First couple of times I did it, I noted the fact with minor trepidation: “Is this OK?”. Never had even the mildest rebuke. Am I to be obliged to alter my behavior, while letting **BG** take the heat?

Advise.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/3 "2015-03-21T17:11:35Z")

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I have no problem with the link-and-a-quote style in SRIOTD, I do it myself. But cross posting on three threads is a fair cop, even if the content is appropriate. I frequently post in Election threads that would be equally at home in SRIOTD, but I refrain because I know when others do this, they will pop up in my subscribed threads three times, which I find mildly annoying. Not worthy of a warning, but come on, pick a thread.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/4 "2015-03-21T17:26:51Z")

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What **Fear Itself** said. And BG’s response probably merits a warning, IMHO.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/5 "2015-03-21T17:29:06Z")

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Perhaps including a little more commentary about said quote, appropriate for each thread?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/6 "2015-03-21T17:29:24Z")

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You guys are just picking on \*\*BG \*\*because he is a conservative.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/7 "2015-03-21T17:33:09Z")

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For clarity’s sake, here are the mod notes. Notice that the notes are not for “comment and link style” posting, but for _cross posting the exact same comment,_ cut and paste style, in multiple threads.

> [@Stupid Republican idea of the day](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/20209):
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> BrainGlutton, you posted this exact same thing in three different threads. Please refrain from the cut and paste style of posting in the future. If you have something to add, at least try to be creative about it.

> [@Stupid Republican idea of the day](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/20210):
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> BrainGlutton, you posted this exact same thing in two different threads. Please refrain from the cut and paste style of posting in the future. If you have something to add, at least try to be creative about it.

> [@mhendo](#):
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> I’ve been critical of some of **BrainGlutton** ’s threads in the past, especially his tendency to start a thread with nothing more than a cut-and-paste quotation and a link.
> 
> But your recent moderating of his posts about Ben Carson is silly. Despite the fact that the three posts he made were identical, each was completely appropriate and relevant for the thread in which it was posted.
> 
> [First post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18222769#post18222769)  
> [Second post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18222777#post18222777)  
> [Third post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18222784#post18222784)
> 
> Most ridiculous was your moderating of his contribution to the Stupid Republican Idea of the Day thread. That thread contains over 20,000 posts. It is one of the longest threads in the history of these boards, and there are literally hundreds—probably thousands—of posts in that thread that contain little more than a link and a quote.
> 
> Your decision to moderate each of those instances was not only dumb, it had a more detrimental effect on those threads than the posts you were moderating.
> 
> As i said, i think that there \*\*\*are \*\*\*times when **BrainGlutton** posts in non-productive ways, especially when he is the thread creator and simply starts a thread with a link and a quote. But those posts were completely fine in the context of the three threads where they appeared.
> 
> If you have a throat problem, take some medicine rather than looking for excuses to clear it in public.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/8 "2015-03-21T17:46:09Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> What **Fear Itself** said. And BG’s response probably merits a warning, IMHO.

Sure, probably. I make no comment about his response. I was only concerned with the original moderation. If he gets a note or a warning for the response, you won’t find me starting a thread about it.

But if each post was appropriate for the thread in which it appears, what’s the problem? Just because the moderator in question happened to be reading all three threads doesn’t mean that everyone else was. What if i were following, for example, the Ben Carson thread, but not the SRIOTD thread? The post is about Ben Carson, and it adds something to the discussion of Ben Carson, so having it in the Ben Carson thread seems appropriate, whether or not it also appears in the SRIOTD thread.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/9 "2015-03-21T18:28:21Z")

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Isn’t there a rule against spamming in multiple forums?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/10 "2015-03-21T18:38:51Z")

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That’s the secret the mods don’t want you to know, but a young mother in Minnesota has discovered it.

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/11 "2015-03-21T18:42:46Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Isn’t there a rule against spamming in multiple forums?

Yes.

From the SDMB Registration Agreement:

> [@](#):
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> Do not post the same or similar messages or threads to multiple forums; multiple threads on the same topic; or an excessive number of threads on any topic within a limited period of time.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/12 "2015-03-21T18:43:51Z")

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{clears throat}

Have you guys seen my Ricola?

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/13 "2015-03-21T18:58:16Z")

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Dropping that turd in the Israeli election thread wasn’t on topic.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/14 "2015-03-21T19:51:32Z")

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> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#):
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> Yes.
> 
> From the SDMB Registration Agreement:

Whatever.

He posted a relevant message in three (or maybe two; see below) threads. Big fucking hairy deal. If it was actual spamming, or trolling, or something that wasn’t relevant to the threads in question, you’d have a point, but it wasn’t any of those things.

> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Dropping that turd in the Israeli election thread wasn’t on topic.

See, here’s one observation that i can understand and even get on board with.

While the post was on the general topic of Israel and the Middle East, it probably didn’t need to go in the Israeli election thread. It didn’t really add to what was a fairly sustained discussion. But it was completely in keeping with hundreds of previous posts in the SRIOTD thread, and it was also perfectly relevant to the Ben Carson thread.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/15 "2015-03-21T20:48:30Z")

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Well I have a feeling if he had just posted it to those two threads then Jonathon probably wouldn’t have bothered to step in. I’m sure I’ve seen BrainGlutton do this before though. He comes across some tidbit and thinks he has to disseminate it wherever remotely applicable.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/16 "2015-03-21T21:13:24Z")

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I’ll confess to appreciating BG admitting in the Knesset thread that he had nothing worthwhile to add.

Anyway it was just a mod note, not a warning and not a particularly strong one at that.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/17 "2015-03-21T21:44:42Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> I’ll confess to appreciating BG admitting in the Knesset thread that he had nothing worthwhile to add.
> 
> Anyway it was just a mod note, not a warning and not a particularly strong one at that.

Yep, and considering the poster’s history of doing this frequently in the past, reasonable for the mods to ask him to stop.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/19 "2015-03-21T22:22:25Z")

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> [@JamesW](#):
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> Maybe he is hoping for a financial donation if he brown noses us all enough?

What?

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/20 "2015-03-21T23:03:43Z")

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I’m with Fear Itself. Pick a thread. If you want to put the same link in each thread, do the work to write distinct threads that work within those threads. If it’s too much work to write a decent post, that’s a sign.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/21 "2015-03-21T23:55:46Z")

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A poster posts the same link in three different threads without any comment, and a moderator asks him to not do that.

So, a completely different poster starts a thread in ATMB complaining about it and calling the moderator silly.

This thread is silly.

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