# Jonathan Chance, you are being silly.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [March 21, 2015, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616 "2015-03-21T16:59:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/42 "2015-03-23T20:16:43Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> For thread-starting, and as a method of engaging in actual debate, i agree with you. And i also think that the particular poster in question here has a tendency to start too many threads with substance-free OPs. But there are quite a few threads where links and (relevant) quotes can be perfectly appropriate, especially in threads like the SRIOTD thread.

I’d say generally only in that thread, and not cross posted to other threads. (Unless it’s a response to a request for a cite or something similar.)

From my POV, what we are participating in a thread for is to hear the views of the people in the thread, not to be linked over and over again to something someone else said somewhere.

I can’t have a conversation with a link.

And even so, the ones I strenuously object to are the ones that are just clickbait titles with zero substance if you follow the link. There’s enough spam out there already. We don’t need to import clickbait.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/43 "2015-03-23T21:18:44Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> I’d say generally only in that thread, and not cross posted to other threads. (Unless it’s a response to a request for a cite or something similar.)
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> From my POV, what we are participating in a thread for is to hear the views of the people in the thread, not to be linked over and over again to something someone else said somewhere.

This–a thousand times _this_.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/44 "2015-03-23T23:14:17Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> It only became a warning because of how (not necessarily where) **BG** protested it. Not because of the action itself.

> [@Fenris](#):
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> Curses!

Just to put an official imprimatur on this, the warning I gave **BrainGlutton** was not for cross posting, but for responding to a mod note with insults and a stated intent to ignore the note.

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/45 "2015-03-24T00:26:37Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> No, they really don’t. Certainly the guy who actually got noted doesn’t seem to want to know.
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> Its a mod note, not a ban and not even a warning. That somebody would start an ATMB thread using the tone in the OP over somebody else’s simple mod note is strange to me.

as I’ve seen on so many message boards, the inmates usually scream and pout when they can’t run the asylum.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/46 "2015-03-24T01:33:17Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Just to put an official imprimatur on this, the warning I gave **BrainGlutton** was not for cross posting, but for responding to a mod note with insults and a stated intent to ignore the note.

The insults were made in the Pit, where insults are permitted.

As for “stated intent to ignore the note” where do you get that? The words were as follows:

_You are dismissed with the contempt you deserve._

There was no actual disobedience. Nor was there any stated intent to disobey. That is just your own peculiar interpretation of the words.Expressing contempt is not expressing disobedience. It is perfectly possible to be contemptuous of a moderator while still obeying his instructions. I’ve done it myself several times.

The warning should not have been issued.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/47 "2015-03-24T01:35:17Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> As for “stated intent to ignore the note” where do you get that? The words were as follows:
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> _You are dismissed with the contempt you deserve._
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> There was no actual disobedience. Nor was there any stated intent to disobey. That is just your own peculiar interpretation of the words.

I don’t think it’s a remotely “peculiar” interpretation that if someone dismisses someone with contempt they do not plan to heed that someone.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/48 "2015-03-24T02:33:44Z")

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There’s also something we don’t know. Miller mentioned that Brainglutton “reported” Jonathan’s mod note post in a less than conciliatory tone.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/49 "2015-03-24T03:38:49Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> The insults were made in the Pit, where insults are permitted.

Insults are permitted in the pit against other posters, which can include moderators when they are not posting in their official capacity. In no case is it acceptable to insult a moderator in response to something they’ve posted in their role as a moderator.

> [@](#):
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> As for “stated intent to ignore the note” where do you get that? The words were as follows:
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> _You are dismissed with the contempt you deserve._
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> There was no actual disobedience. Nor was there any stated intent to disobey. That is just your own peculiar interpretation of the words.

I don’t feel that my interpretation of that post is remotely peculiar. At any rate, as mentioned, **BrainGlutton** ’s response to being mod noted was not contained wholly within that thread.

> [@](#):
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> Expressing contempt is not expressing disobedience. It is perfectly possible to be contemptuous of a moderator while still obeying his instructions. I’ve done it myself several times.

Yeah. We know.

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> The warning should not have been issued.

Thank you for sharing your views on the topic.

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/50 "2015-03-24T18:12:20Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> A poster posts the same link in three different threads without any comment, and a moderator asks him to not do that.
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> So, a completely different poster starts a thread in ATMB complaining about it and calling the moderator silly.
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> This thread is silly.

I hope you won’t think that I’m being silly if I tell you that I really enjoyed seeing your screen name. It was the first time that I had ever seen it and I just laughed my silly head off over that.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/51 "2015-03-24T18:26:55Z")

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So, you’re Colin Baker?

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathan-chance-you-are-being-silly/715616/52 "2015-03-24T19:15:25Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> The insults were made in the Pit, where insults are permitted.

Insults are not permitted against moderators for actions taken as moderators, even in the Pit.

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