# Jonathon Chance, you struck out on this one. **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [December 12, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathon-chance-you-struck-out-on-this-one/774551 "2016-12-12T20:33:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathon-chance-you-struck-out-on-this-one/774551/41 "2016-12-16T14:11:17Z")
> [@Backwater\_Under\_Duck](#): > > I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest that any declining postership _could_ be to the annoying presence of posters such as the OP who simply want this board to be different than what it is. Pushing the rules, trying to get in as much nastiness as possible, and then owning the ATMB forum with their constant whining about heavy-handed moderation. If that were actually the case, I might agree with you. But it’s not. I think your limb just broke. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathon-chance-you-struck-out-on-this-one/774551/42 "2016-12-16T14:33:42Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > You forgot to put the word “undeserved” in front of the word “warning”. Your warning was clearly deserved. You continue to ignore the fact that the post before the one **Jonathan** quoted, and which he mentioned in the warning, was blatantly insulting. Both posts were jerkish. If you don’t want to receive warnings, the solution is simple: don’t be a jerk. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathon-chance-you-struck-out-on-this-one/774551/43 "2016-12-16T14:36:19Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I would agree on both points. > > In particular, Jonathan Chance gave me a formal mod warning for personal insults a month ago or so. My crime? > > I said the following to someone outside the pit: > > “Good god. Can you bend over any more backwards to excuse the guy?” > > I know. Pretty mean of me. > [@cochrane](#): > > Here’s the thread, although it was closer to four months ago. > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=802671](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=802671) > > And here’s the post in question that got the warning. > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19585058&postcount=61](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19585058&postcount=61) As is often the case when people protest warnings, they selectively focus on one phrase and claim that was why they received the warning, while ignoring the context or their other behavior in a thread. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathon-chance-you-struck-out-on-this-one/774551/44 "2016-12-16T15:00:45Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > As is often the case when people protest warnings, they selectively focus on one phrase and claim that was why they received the warning, while ignoring the context or their other behavior in a thread. I say this without sarcasm: I honestly don’t see what context, or behavior on the part of **Euphonious Polemic** in that thread, justifies giving him an official warning for that post. Could you point out what it is, in your opinion? ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathon-chance-you-struck-out-on-this-one/774551/45 "2016-12-16T15:23:08Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > […] I think[…] Cite? ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathon-chance-you-struck-out-on-this-one/774551/46 "2016-12-16T16:34:38Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I say this without sarcasm: I honestly don’t see what context, or behavior on the part of **Euphonious Polemic** in that thread, justifies giving him an official warning for that post. Could you point out what it is, in your opinion? I usually either agree with a moderator’s warning or at least understand why they did it even if I would have made a different decision. But this one baffles me too. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathon-chance-you-struck-out-on-this-one/774551/47 "2016-12-16T16:35:51Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I say this without sarcasm: I honestly don’t see what context, or behavior on the part of **Euphonious Polemic** in that thread, justifies giving him an official warning for that post. Could you point out what it is, in your opinion? Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathon-chance-you-struck-out-on-this-one/774551/48 "2016-12-16T17:24:08Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I say this without sarcasm: I honestly don’t see what context, or behavior on the part of **Euphonious Polemic** in that thread, justifies giving him an official warning for that post. Could you point out what it is, in your opinion? > [@TroutMan](#): > > I usually either agree with a moderator’s warning or at least understand why they did it even if I would have made a different decision. But this one baffles me too. I would consider the last two lines to constitute a personal attack. They are not attacking a post but the poster himself. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathon-chance-you-struck-out-on-this-one/774551/49 "2016-12-16T17:54:33Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I would consider the last two lines to constitute a personal attack. They are not attacking a post but the poster himself. Warning worthy, though? Was there a previous Note or a history? If not, I’m really starting to think that the whole infraction system needs an overhaul. Is it that you think people ignore Notes? Because they usually seem to be pretty effective, from my POV. ETA: You really think something like that belongs on someone’s permanent record? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathon-chance-you-struck-out-on-this-one/774551/50 "2016-12-16T18:44:59Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Here’s the thread, although it was closer to four months ago. > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=802671](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=802671) > > And here’s the post in question that got the warning. > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19585058&postcount=61](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19585058&postcount=61) Hey, what do you know. That was for insulting me! I agree with others that I can’t see how you can call it a personal insult. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathon-chance-you-struck-out-on-this-one/774551/51 "2016-12-16T22:16:02Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I would consider the last two lines to constitute a personal attack. They are not attacking a post but the poster himself. Indeed, not only was it a personal attack, it was the sort aimed at insulting another poster’s ability to post. On a board designed to allow for open debate that’s one of the worst things one can do to another. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathon-chance-you-struck-out-on-this-one/774551/52 "2016-12-16T22:35:06Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Indeed, not only was it a personal attack, it was the sort aimed at insulting another poster’s ability to post. On a board designed to allow for open debate that’s one of the worst things one can do to another. This is really bizarre. He was questioning my motives for my line of questions. “Insulting my ability to post”? I think you’re a tad too easily offended on my behalf. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathon-chance-you-struck-out-on-this-one/774551/53 "2016-12-16T22:47:11Z")
**Moderator Note** > [@Clothahump](#): > > […] I think[…] > [@Superdude](#): > > Cite? This comes off as very insulting. Do not do this again in ATMB. Focus on the issue being discussed. If you have a personal issue with another poster, take it to the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathon-chance-you-struck-out-on-this-one/774551/54 "2016-12-18T15:42:31Z")
He only got a Note for that. Things that make you go hmmmm… ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathon-chance-you-struck-out-on-this-one/774551/55 "2016-12-18T17:28:15Z")
**Superdude** doesn’t have a recent and consistent history of insult problems in ATMB, so yes, at this stage, he gets a mod note. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathon-chance-you-struck-out-on-this-one/774551/56 "2016-12-18T19:24:32Z")
I appreciate that, ECG. I forgot what forum we were in. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathon-chance-you-struck-out-on-this-one/774551/57 "2016-12-18T20:39:54Z")
Is “ghods” a typo or a) ostentatiously/religiously highlighting your disrespect to all those people who write/say “God,” or b) ostentatiously/religiously highlighting your respect like the Jews who write “G-d” and the censors who write “G-ddammnit?” ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathon-chance-you-struck-out-on-this-one/774551/58 "2016-12-19T05:00:57Z")
It’s a slang term that encompasses every god ever worshiped by humans. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathon-chance-you-struck-out-on-this-one/774551/59 "2016-12-19T17:54:54Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > I appreciate that, ECG. I forgot what forum we were in. This is the excuse I use as well to insult people outside of the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathon-chance-you-struck-out-on-this-one/774551/60 "2016-12-19T18:10:06Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > It’s a slang term that encompasses every god ever worshiped by humans. A “slang term” implies that someone besides yourself uses it. Google shows no hits for such a usage. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathon-chance-you-struck-out-on-this-one/774551.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jonathon-chance-you-struck-out-on-this-one/774551.md?page=4)