# Jorolat: Objections to calling him a jerk?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jorolat-objections-to-calling-him-a-jerk/82630>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 19, 2001, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jorolat-objections-to-calling-him-a-jerk/82630 "2001-09-19T17:35:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Blake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@Blake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blake)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jorolat-objections-to-calling-him-a-jerk/82630/21 "2010-10-15T07:07:51Z")

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Holy Fucking Zombie Threads batman.

NINE years +.

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**Author:** ![jorolat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed655f/32.png) [@jorolat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jorolat)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jorolat-objections-to-calling-him-a-jerk/82630/22 "2010-10-15T07:09:44Z")

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> [@Blake](#):
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> Holy Fucking Zombie Threads batman.
> 
> NINE years +.

LOL

I’m terribly slow at typing 🙂

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jorolat-objections-to-calling-him-a-jerk/82630/23 "2010-10-15T07:36:16Z")

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I note that **DaveW** apparently last logged on in 2004. I suspect he’s not going to see your reply.

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**Author:** ![jorolat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed655f/32.png) [@jorolat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jorolat)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jorolat-objections-to-calling-him-a-jerk/82630/24 "2010-10-15T07:40:29Z")

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I think you’re right, Der Trihs - and perhaps that’s just as well 🙂

I came across “Jorolat: Objections to calling him a jerk?” while doing a google search and decided to reply on a whimsy (but only after I’d stopped crying).

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jorolat-objections-to-calling-him-a-jerk/82630/25 "2010-10-15T08:00:03Z")

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Nine years and all you could say was, “you are a real jerk”?

Did you mean it ironically?

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jorolat-objections-to-calling-him-a-jerk/82630/26 "2010-10-15T08:32:50Z")

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**jorolat** was born a poor, black child…

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**Author:** ![jorolat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed655f/32.png) [@jorolat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jorolat)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jorolat-objections-to-calling-him-a-jerk/82630/27 "2010-10-15T08:53:07Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> Nine years and all you could say was, “you are a real jerk”?
> 
> Did you mean it ironically?

No, no, no - don’t _trouble_ yourself! My reply was to someone about something that happened a long time ago - it wasn’t an invitation for total strangers to involve themselves LOL

Particularly when they respond from the dark side:

> [@Derleth](#):
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> **jorolat** was born a poor, black child…

See what I mean? 🙂

Even here in Dover (UK) I’ve been seeing a lot of news reports about bullies in the US recently - it’s quite amazing that they never know who they are!

I’ll repeat the first post I made today, which is addressed solely to “DaveW”:

> [@jorolat](#):
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> > [@DaveW](#):
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> > **Jorolat** wrote:Just because you don’t read them doesn’t mean they don’t exist. I think your statement proves again that you are being willfully ignorant.
> 
> It doesn’t prove anything of the kind.
> 
> This post petered out a long time ago, and quite frankly there’s nothing more to add really - except to say, of course, that you are the _real_ jerk!
> 
> Just for the record 🙂

There, done and dusted.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jorolat-objections-to-calling-him-a-jerk/82630/28 "2010-10-15T09:06:41Z")

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> [@jorolat](#):
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> See what I mean? 🙂
> 
> Even here in Dover (UK) I’ve been seeing a lot of news reports about bullies in the US recently - it’s quite amazing that they never know who they are!

He was making a reference to the Steve Martin film _The Jerk_ which opens with the line “I was born a poor black child.”

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**Author:** ![jorolat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed655f/32.png) [@jorolat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jorolat)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jorolat-objections-to-calling-him-a-jerk/82630/29 "2010-10-15T13:15:07Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> > [@jorolat](#):
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> > See what I mean? 🙂
> > 
> > Even here in Dover (UK) I’ve been seeing a lot of news reports about bullies in the US recently - it’s quite amazing that they never know who they are!
> 
> He was making a reference to the Steve Martin film _The Jerk_ which opens with the line “I was born a poor black child.”

Doesn’t matter what he was referring to, the message reads:

"jorolat was born a poor, black child… "

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**Author:** ![jorolat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed655f/32.png) [@jorolat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jorolat)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jorolat-objections-to-calling-him-a-jerk/82630/30 "2010-10-15T13:21:46Z")

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On reflection, the fact the reference is to a film called _The Jerk_ only emphasis my point.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jorolat-objections-to-calling-him-a-jerk/82630/31 "2010-10-15T13:44:36Z")

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I’ve never heard of jorolat, have no interest in his theories, have no interest in subscribing to his newsletter.

I side with the departed DaveW.

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**Author:** ![Baboonanza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f475e1/32.png) [@Baboonanza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baboonanza)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jorolat-objections-to-calling-him-a-jerk/82630/32 "2010-10-15T14:06:32Z")

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> [@jorolat](#):
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> > [@jorolat](#):
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> > It doesn’t prove anything of the kind.
> > 
> > This post petered out a long time ago, and quite frankly there’s nothing more to add really - except to say, of course, that you are the _real_ jerk!
> > 
> > Just for the record 🙂
> 
> There, done and dusted.

I would like to stand up for **DaveW** here, since I feel it’s unjust that you get the last word. So on **DaveW** ’s behalf:

You are a pretentious cretin of the most detestable kind. You seem to have no interest in actual debate, learning or science and lack enough self-awareness to realise that your own random brain mis-fires are not the most inciteful revelations in human history, but garbage. Reading your posts is like having sand rubbed into my brain. Also you’re a jerk, you smell like turnip-wine and you walk like a three-legged bicycle.

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**Author:** ![jorolat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed655f/32.png) [@jorolat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jorolat)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jorolat-objections-to-calling-him-a-jerk/82630/33 "2010-10-15T14:17:09Z")

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[quote=“Bryan\_Ekers, post:31, topic:82630”]

I’ve never heard of jorolat, have no interest in his theories, have no interest in subscribing to his newsletter.

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The above is just “smoke and mirrors” to camouflage the abusive:

> [@](#):
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> I side with the departed DaveW.

You see, if “I’ve never heard of jorolat, have no interest in his theories, have no interest in subscribing to his newsletter” were really true, you wouldn’t have taken the time to write it!

You would simply have moved on to a more naturally interesting thread - but an opportunity to psychologically abuse is just too irresitible, isn’t it? 🙂

As I said before, the first post I made today was addressed solely to “DaveW” and wasn’t an invitation for total strangers to involve themselves - especially those who have bad things happen inside their head.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jorolat-objections-to-calling-him-a-jerk/82630/34 "2010-10-15T14:20:22Z")

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> [@jorolat](#):
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> > [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> > He was making a reference to the Steve Martin film _The Jerk_ which opens with the line “I was born a poor black child.”
> 
> Doesn’t matter what he was referring to, the message reads:
> 
> "jorolat was born a poor, black child… "

> [@jorolat](#):
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> On reflection, the fact the reference is to a film called _The Jerk_ only emphasis my point.

… buh?

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**Author:** ![jorolat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed655f/32.png) [@jorolat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jorolat)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jorolat-objections-to-calling-him-a-jerk/82630/35 "2010-10-15T14:21:41Z")

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> [@Baboonanza](#):
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> > [@jorolat](#):
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> > There, done and dusted.
> 
> I would like to stand up for **DaveW** here, since I feel it’s unjust that you get the last word. So on **DaveW** ’s behalf:
> 
> You are a pretentious cretin of the most detestable kind. You seem to have no interest in actual debate, learning or science and lack enough self-awareness to realise that your own random brain mis-fires are not the most inciteful revelations in human history, but garbage. Reading your posts is like having sand rubbed into my brain. Also you’re a jerk, you smell like turnip-wine and you walk like a three-legged bicycle.

Meet a person for the first time and you meet that person AND their unresolved psychological history.

When that history has been compacted into a capacity for psychological violence then comments such as yours - which are simply _leakage_ from that violence - are entirely predictable.

The “Golden Rule” of abuse is take what you are given else the perpetrator will dig deeper into their unnnatural capability.

Well. I’ve reacted to your abusive comments - so what’s happening inside your head right now?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jorolat-objections-to-calling-him-a-jerk/82630/36 "2010-10-15T14:30:12Z")

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> [@jorolat](#):
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> The above is just “smoke and mirrors” to camouflage the abusive:

Since the allegedly offending phrase was typed out clearly, I’m not sure you know what “camouflage” means.

> [@](#):
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> You see, if “I’ve never heard of jorolat, have no interest in his theories, have no interest in subscribing to his newsletter” were really true, you wouldn’t have taken the time to write it!

I put in exactly as much effort as the situation called for, plus or minus the usual modifiers. I still don’t know or care anything about you specifically; I have a minor incentive to discourage pretentious gits from nesting on a favoured message board and your pretentiousness and git-ness are apparent.

Having clarified my position, I don’t feel compelled to elaborate further.

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**Author:** ![jorolat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed655f/32.png) [@jorolat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jorolat)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jorolat-objections-to-calling-him-a-jerk/82630/37 "2010-10-15T14:40:23Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> > [@jorolat](#):
> >
> > The above is just “smoke and mirrors” to camouflage the abusive:
> 
> Since the allegedly offending phrase was typed out clearly, I’m not sure you know what “camouflage” means.
> 
> > [@](#):
> >
> > You see, if “I’ve never heard of jorolat, have no interest in his theories, have no interest in subscribing to his newsletter” were really true, you wouldn’t have taken the time to write it!
> 
> I put in exactly as much effort as the situation called for, plus or minus the usual modifiers. I still don’t know or care anything about you specifically; I have a minor incentive to discourage pretentious gits from nesting on a favoured message board and your pretentiousness and git-ness are apparent.
> 
> Having clarified my position, I don’t feel compelled to elaborate further.

You have clarified your position, and I agree, you’ve no need to elaborate further:

> [@](#):
>
> I put in exactly as much effort as the situation called for

The situation didn’t call for you to do _anything_ - nine years ago DaveW called me a jerk and today I called him one back. You’re just rationalizing your ininvited involvement.

Non-abusive people would simply have moved on to something more interesting!

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jorolat-objections-to-calling-him-a-jerk/82630/38 "2010-10-15T14:50:20Z")

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Otherwise, **Jorolat** , welcome back to the SDMB! 😃

Stick around this time.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jorolat-objections-to-calling-him-a-jerk/82630/39 "2010-10-15T15:24:09Z")

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> [@jorolat](#):
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> As I said before, the first post I made today was addressed solely to “DaveW” and wasn’t an invitation for total strangers to involve themselves - especially those who have bad things happen inside their head.

Ah, this is a common misconception around here. You see, this is a public message board, where your comments are posted for the world to see. This is not your living room, where you can have a private conversation. The easiest way to tell the difference is that this place isn’t stained by years’ worth of drool buildup.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jorolat-objections-to-calling-him-a-jerk/82630/40 "2010-10-15T16:52:00Z")

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> [@jorolat](#):
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> As I said before, the first post I made today was addressed solely to “DaveW” and wasn’t an invitation for total strangers to involve themselves - especially those who have bad things happen inside their head.

If you want to reply solely to DaveW, and don’t want third parties to involve themselves, send him an email.

What’s the word for someone who posts something on a public message board but thinks the public shouldn’t respond?

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