# Josh Duggar - Ashley Madison Account

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 19, 2015, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289 "2015-08-19T21:48:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/121 "2015-08-21T19:45:07Z")

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Happy Fun Ball:

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> Josh Duggar, that vehemently pro-life politician that got caught forcing his mistress to get a abortion

Where did this come from? I thought all he’s been caught at is molesting his sisters and adultery. (I don’t mean to say that that’s nothing, just I don’t recall seeing an abortion angle in the story just yet.)

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/122 "2015-08-21T19:56:11Z")

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> [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](#):
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> What gives?

1. I’m not a republican.

2. I’m not obsessed about the personal lives of politicians.

3. All politicians are scum.

4. Vote Kodos!

> [@bup](#):
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> He’s the nihilist court jester.

I love you.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/123 "2015-08-21T19:57:30Z")

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Not unexpectedly, [Anna blames herself.](http://uproxx.com/tv/2015/08/josh-duggar-wife-anna-blames-herself/)

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/124 "2015-08-21T19:59:16Z")

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> [@cmkeller](#):
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> Happy Fun Ball:  
> Where did this come from? I thought all he’s been caught at is molesting his sisters and adultery. (I don’t mean to say that that’s nothing, just I don’t recall seeing an abortion angle in the story just yet.)

I think he is referring to 2 people (i.e. Josh Dugger and “that vehemently pro-life politician that got caught forcing his mistress to get a abortion”). I don’t know who the latter is, though.

As others have noted, the most disgusting thing about all of this is the mentality that his wife has some responsibility for this, since she is duty bound to be sexually available to him. My guess is that - like the devout person she was raised to be - sex with her was never going to be like it would be with a prostitute (which is really what this Ashley Madison stuff is for, right?) or in porn. No way that woman would ever approach the type of contortions, acts, or expressions found in raunchy ilicit sex. It was probably missionary, lights-off, half dressed sex in their marriage. So she never was going to be able to do the things that he wanted, and never could have been “obedient” enough to keep him faithful.

But she’ll feel the guilt and shame, all right.

Asshole.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/125 "2015-08-21T20:12:16Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Not unexpectedly, [Anna blames herself.](http://uproxx.com/tv/2015/08/josh-duggar-wife-anna-blames-herself/)

The linked article only speculates that she will, no actual statement yet. Not that I doubt it for one second. I fully expect they’ll find some way to lay most of or all the blame on her.

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**Author:** ![orangeapples](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@orangeapples](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orangeapples)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/126 "2015-08-21T21:11:51Z")

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> [@MeanJoe](#):
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> I’ve still not seen any comments in the press from our GOP field who previously rushed to stand beside the child molester.

Have to give them time to frame the appropriate response to properly position themselves should their own activities be uncovered in the next data dump. These are truly trying times for our plain-spoken, family-oriented, men (and one woman)-of-the-people, to be sure.

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/127 "2015-08-21T21:51:26Z")

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There is one comment I love in the linked article.

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> Of course Josh isn’t attracted to Anna, he isn’t related to her.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/128 "2015-08-21T22:29:21Z")

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> [@cmkeller](#):
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> Happy Fun Ball:
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> Where did this come from? I thought all he’s been caught at is molesting his sisters and adultery. (I don’t mean to say that that’s nothing, just I don’t recall seeing an abortion angle in the story just yet.)

This was a list of 3 separate Republican guilty of hypocrisy. I was thinking of Scott DesJarlais, but I was not able to use Google at that exact moment. So it should read Josh Duggar, Scott DesJarlais, and Ted Haggard. 3 examples though there are many more.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/129 "2015-08-21T22:30:45Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> 1. I’m not a republican.
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> 2. I’m not obsessed about the personal lives of politicians.
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> 3. All politicians are scum.
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> 4. Vote Kodos!

OK, my apologies, I must have mistaken you for another poster. For the record, I heartily approve of points 3 and 4.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/130 "2015-08-21T22:44:02Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> 1. Vote Kodos!

Go ahead. Throw your vote away.

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/131 "2015-08-21T23:47:02Z")

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I really feel sorry for Anna. She was exposed to the entire world as someone who deliberately married a pedophile. She’s now exposed as someone who who married a pedophile who cheats on her. In her world and her mind she’s going to take the fall for all of this. I have no doubt the Duggars in private will do as much as possible to blame her for not satisfying her man. So four kids, no education and a marriage that isn’t even as good as that of many of the liberals she’s been taught to hate. Sort of like Princess Diana only with a layer of fundie on top.

Forget free Jinger. Free Anna. Some ghost writer needs to gently walk up to her and convince her they should write a tell all book together.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/132 "2015-08-22T00:47:56Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> I so hope SNL does something with a Bill Cosby lookalike chatting with a Josh Duggar lookalike.
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> So much potential.

Or just appearing on the stage together. _“Are we really gonna do this? Nah.”_ Then they both leave.

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**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/133 "2015-08-22T02:06:26Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Ex-Quiverfull women sound a lot like ex-FLDS women, and one thing they’ve all said is that they never saw a marriage that could be described as happy, for either party.

Not to shit on a perfectly cromulent generalization of a group of people I find personally disgusting, but I did grow up in the quiverful movement, and most of the girls and women I knew believed that they were happy and fulfilled with their lives. There were some mental gymnastics involved with holding that opinion, but we didn’t know that at the time. It usually takes some real specific trauma or a specific type of stubborn personality to crack through all the conditioning to realize the depth of the bullshit you’re wading around in. And it really takes some doing for the men, most of whom are fat-cat contented with being lord and master of their own personal fiefdom.

/hijack, back to your regularly-scheduled pitting

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/134 "2015-08-22T02:40:09Z")

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Okay, let’s say I’m a bit of a D-List celebrity and I want to join Ashley Madison anonymously. No paying with a credit card with my name on it. Amex gift cards only have fifteen-digit numbers, unlike the sixteen on a proper credit card. They also can’t be used for automatic withdrawal, just month to month. Even Russell Simmons’ RushCard is hiding behind the Patriot Act. Can I open a bank account under a fake name in Arkansas that doesn’t require I show an ID? Or am I stuck using Bitcoins?

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**Author:** ![tenacious\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/439d5e/32.png) [@tenacious\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tenacious_j)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/135 "2015-08-22T02:43:24Z")

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> [@LavenderBlue](#):
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> I really feel sorry for Anna. She was exposed to the entire world as someone who deliberately married a pedophile. She’s now exposed as someone who who married a pedophile who cheats on her. In her world and her mind she’s going to take the fall for all of this. I have no doubt the Duggars in private will do as much as possible to blame her for not satisfying her man. So four kids, no education and a marriage that isn’t even as good as that of many of the liberals she’s been taught to hate. Sort of like Princess Diana only with a layer of fundie on top.
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> Forget free Jinger. Free Anna. Some ghost writer needs to gently walk up to her and convince her they should write a tell all book together.

I shouldn’t, but I do too. I am not kidding when I say I think she’s special, and having no education and being raised in a fundie cult did not help.

If she was in my position, or probably yours, I wouldn’t. I was raised to think for myself and get an edumacation, and support myself (or 1/2 of my household since I’ve been married). I have self respect and don’t let who my husband or kids are define me. Finally, I have never been classified as below average intelligence. 😃  
Despite such self-professed intelligence, I have watched the show. More than I should have, but like a train wreck, I couldn’t help staring.

On the show, Anna could ONLY talk about babies.  
When someone started courting, she said “ooh, babies!” When friends visited, more “ooh, babies!”  
When someone got married, she sent them a baby-related wedding present.  
She’s gonna hang on to him because

1. she wants more babies- that’s what keeps her going and who she is
2. no way she could make it on her own, even without 4 kids
3. No guy in her circle wants a used woman
4. he’ll apologize and tell her this is God’s plan, and she’ll believe it

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/136 "2015-08-22T03:47:44Z")

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> [@Lasciel](#):
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> It usually takes some real specific trauma or a specific type of stubborn personality to crack through all the conditioning to realize the depth of the bullshit you’re wading around in. And it really takes some doing for the men, most of whom are fat-cat contented with being lord and master of their own personal fiefdom.

This sounds like a sizable percentage of the world’s population.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/137 "2015-08-22T08:25:22Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Okay, let’s say I’m a bit of a D-List celebrity and I want to join Ashley Madison anonymously. No paying with a credit card with my name on it. Amex gift cards only have fifteen-digit numbers, unlike the sixteen on a proper credit card. They also can’t be used for automatic withdrawal, just month to month. Even Russell Simmons’ RushCard is hiding behind the Patriot Act. Can I open a bank account under a fake name in Arkansas that doesn’t require I show an ID? Or am I stuck using Bitcoins?

I have a client that pays my fees and my expenses separately. My expenses are a set amount, so they send me a pre-paid Visa card that is accepted anywhere online and in stores. AFAIK there is no name associated with these, and you only need to register your zip code if you are buying goods that require shipping.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/138 "2015-08-22T15:45:14Z")

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It really irks the shit out of me when I step up for a nice cold shot of iced \*schadenfreude \* and somebody has to remind me of the human dimension to all this, the suffering of innocent people. Couldn’t I just have five minutes to enjoy the delivery of a karmic dopeslap to the richly deserving?

This is why we can’t have nasty things!

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/139 "2015-08-22T16:04:32Z")

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In his OKCupid profile he claims his income to be $100,000 to $150,000. I got bored trying to find what the Family Research Council paid him, but do his potential dates not know that, while $150k is good for a guy with all of the education and skills to be a WalMart stockboy, for an Executive Director of a famous DC lobbying firm it ain’t shit? Does _ **he** _ have the arithmetic skills too cipher it out, or are there too many zeros?

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**Author:** ![lel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8797f3/32.png) [@lel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lel)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/140 "2015-08-22T16:30:49Z")

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He could always be lying about his salary, or taking a low wage for Jesus.

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