# Josh Duggar - Ashley Madison Account

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 19, 2015, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289 "2015-08-19T21:48:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/141 "2015-08-22T16:32:15Z")

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> [@lel](#):
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> He could always be lying about his salary, or taking a low wage for Jesus.

Or it includes his revenue from the reality show.

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**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/142 "2015-08-22T16:45:13Z")

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That’s why I’m skeptical that Josh got laid through Ashley Madison. From what I’ve heard about it, it’s overwhelmingly men and a lot of the women on it are looking for sugar daddies. In DC Josh was competing against men who are far better looking and richer than he is. Maybe he had better luck in Arkansas, but I’m guessing most of his side action was prostitutes.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/143 "2015-08-22T17:29:58Z")

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> [@SaharaTea](#):
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> That’s why I’m skeptical that Josh got laid through Ashley Madison. From what I’ve heard about it, it’s overwhelmingly men and a lot of the women on it are looking for sugar daddies. In DC Josh was competing against men who are far better looking and richer than he is. Maybe he had better luck in Arkansas, but I’m guessing most of his side action was prostitutes.

Unless he swings both ways. At this point, nothing would surprise me.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/144 "2015-08-22T18:36:33Z")

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> [@SaharaTea](#):
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> That’s why I’m skeptical that Josh got laid through Ashley Madison. From what I’ve heard about it, it’s overwhelmingly men and a lot of the women on it are looking for sugar daddies. In DC Josh was competing against men who are far better looking and richer than he is. Maybe he had better luck in Arkansas, but I’m guessing most of his side action was prostitutes.

Well, they seem to heavily promote available females. Heres a GQ article on some [women who use Ashley Madison](http://www.gq.com/story/ashley-madison-affair-cheating-site)

And to hear the founder, he thinks by promoting adultery, h[e is striking a below for gender equality.](http://www.cnbc.com/2015/05/28/why-do-women-cheat-ashley-madison-ceo-tells-all-commentary.html)

No wonder they get little sympathy.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/145 "2015-08-22T19:40:31Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Of course, after we married I’d have to kill her children because they weren’t sired by me. It’s the Law of the Jungle and older than anything Moses brought down from Mount Sinai.

Are–are you a field mouse?

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**Author:** ![Sarabellum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarabellum/32/3492_2.png) [@Sarabellum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarabellum)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/146 "2015-08-22T20:08:39Z")

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If I were Anna right now, I’d be thinking about heading over to Gofundme or similar site, and starting up a campaign entitled, “Should I leave him?” and sit back and watch the donations roll in.

She could probably make more money than all the other Duggars put together, and it would be hers to control - Joshley Madison could go pound sand.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/147 "2015-08-22T22:39:12Z")

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> [@Sarabellum1976](#):
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> If I were Anna right now, I’d be thinking about heading over to Gofundme or similar site, and starting up a campaign entitled, “Should I leave him?” and sit back and watch the donations roll in.
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> She could probably make more money than all the other Duggars put together, and it would be hers to control - Joshley Madison could go pound sand.

This is a wonderful idea. Does she know how to turn on a computer?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/148 "2015-08-22T22:41:54Z")

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> [@Sitnam](#):
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> This is a wonderful idea. Does she know how to turn on a computer?

The unfortunate thing is she most likely believes she has no reason to leave.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/149 "2015-08-23T02:58:01Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> Are–are you a field mouse?

No, but I have one living in my bedroom, Mr Mouse II. He probably whispers such ideas into my ear as I sleep. A pleasant sort, like his predecessors, Mr Mouse I and Squirrel Nutcase, but more obedient than them–he listens when I tell him it’s dangerous upstairs, where the dogs live. I know he’s a he because, though he has lived with me for months, he is still alone.

Mice are very easy to domesticate because they are food-motivated and will come right over and ask, “Are you going to finish that?” I haven’t captured him because if he gets extra hungry he can move out, but I leave him bits of food and dishes to lick. He in turn doesn’t chew up my stuff, beg to be walked, or give me diseases. Pretty good, as pets go.

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/150 "2015-08-23T05:01:38Z")

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Anna will NEVER leave Smugger. He is her boss, she is only his helpmeet. He will tell her that this is a test given to them by god, and they will go on as usual, adding to god’s army every 15 months, until her uterus eventually falls out.

That reminds me, Anna’s oldest, Mackynzie, will be 6 in October, That’s old enough for her to take over raising one of her younger siblings. The girls in these families sure do end up with a shitty life.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/151 "2015-08-23T12:14:21Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Well, they seem to heavily promote available females. Heres a GQ article on some [women who use Ashley Madison](http://www.gq.com/story/ashley-madison-affair-cheating-site)

Yeah, of course they say that. But in analyzing the results of the info dumps, it seems like the user base is about 85% male.

Also, AM hired people to make fake female profiles and flirt with the men. They were upfront about it. They called those sorts of accounts “Angels” and claimed the point was just to make the men feel welcome and playful. Of course, the men have to pay to flirt with these fake accounts, but apparently enough of them are happy to do so.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/152 "2015-08-23T15:22:44Z")

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On some level I feel bad for Josh. He was brainwashed from a young age to ignore and suppress his natural sexual urges, and that probably contributed to them coming out in destructive ways.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/153 "2015-08-23T15:24:44Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> On some level I feel bad for Josh. He was brainwashed from a young age to ignore and suppress his natural sexual urges, and that probably contributed to them coming out in destructive ways.

What, he couldn’t pray it away?

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/154 "2015-08-23T15:29:47Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Girl](#):
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> I have a client that pays my fees and my expenses separately. My expenses are a set amount, so they send me a pre-paid Visa card that is accepted anywhere online and in stores. AFAIK there is no name associated with these, and you only need to register your zip code if you are buying goods that require shipping.

Back when I had to set one up when the Green Dot cards were new, you had to sign up to use it online (as every merchant would ask you for a name.) But there was nothing verifying that it was your real name. It was just the name that you were supposed to use online.

It actually threw me when I got the new AmEx card instead, and I kept trying to figure out how to set up a name. I finally just tried it without a name, and it worked.

I forgot–there are sites that will give you perfectly legit names and cards to use for any sort of free trial, though. I used it on Amazon so we could get the free apps for the Kindle my dad won at a Christmas party. (He didn’t want to put his account on the Kindle itself.)

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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/155 "2015-08-24T02:00:24Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Okay, let’s say I’m a bit of a D-List celebrity and I want to join Ashley Madison anonymously. No paying with a credit card with my name on it. Amex gift cards only have fifteen-digit numbers, unlike the sixteen on a proper credit card. They also can’t be used for automatic withdrawal, just month to month. Even Russell Simmons’ RushCard is hiding behind the Patriot Act. Can I open a bank account under a fake name in Arkansas that doesn’t require I show an ID? Or am I stuck using Bitcoins?

Paypal would be your friend here right?

Set up a Paypal account under a fake name - transfer from one account to another.  
I think that would give you enough of a cloak of secrecy

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/156 "2015-08-24T02:18:50Z")

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That could work. All my even-pervier alter ego, or Josh Duggar, needs is a single layer, one where AM accepts and files the false name. I’d try it, except I don’t need it.

ETA: Okay, okay, the real reason is that I’m too cheap to pay to satisfy my curiousity.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/157 "2015-08-26T20:26:29Z")

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Annnnnd… now he is playing the [Conservative “Rehab” card](http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/josh-duggar-heads-rehab-amid-sex-scandal).

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/158 "2015-08-26T20:38:03Z")

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A residential long-term treatment center … for adultery? The hell? (I’m also wondering how voluntary it really was; this is all kinds of weird and cult-like.)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/159 "2015-08-26T20:49:46Z")

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> [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#):
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> A residential long-term treatment center … for adultery? The hell? (I’m also wondering how voluntary it really was; this is all kinds of weird and cult-like.)

Yep. Because hiding yourself from the world while obsessively praying to God worked so well the first 27 years.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-ashley-madison-account/728289/160 "2015-08-26T20:58:10Z")

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[There’s speculation](https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/celeb-news/josh-duggar-checks-into-long-term-treatment-170539138.html) he’s going to a “treatment center” founded by a fundie, who had to step down in 2014 amid allegations of sexual harassment. There’s also no need for credentials for the therapists.

This is the same place his parents sent him to after he molested his sisters. What’s the definition of crazy?

Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

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