# Josh Duggar (Duggar kid 1/19) to be executive director of Family Research Council

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 19, 2013, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369 "2013-06-19T16:22:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/41 "2015-05-22T00:00:19Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Stupid teenagers do stupid shit.

Full disclaimer: I have never watched a second of the Duggars TV show. All I know is that they breed like rabbits and are deeply religious.

But you’ve hit on the problem I have with reality TV shows focused on families with children. Kids do stupid things. Most of us may not have sexually abused our siblings, but we all did stupid shit growing up. Fortunately for the majority of us, we didn’t have a TV crew following us around to document it. And we don’t have to worry about dirty laundry like this coming out and ruining our lives well into adulthood. What happened in adolescence should stay in adolescence, but that doesn’t happen if you are on a TV show.

The Duggar kids didn’t ask for celebrity, and now they’re paying the costs. Maybe it’s only fair that they suffer a little seeing as how they’ve benefited from it? I don’t know.

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**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/42 "2015-05-22T00:13:13Z")

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> [@Lasciel](#):
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> I’m not willing to look this up, because it’s way too close for comfort, but my concern is that Josh and Anna are married long enough to have daughters only slightly younger than the sisters (and their friend) he molested as a teen.
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> I truly hope someone is watching out for those girls, and any nieces and remaining sisters he has that around that age.

No where does it detail the ages of the victims, so we don’t know if they were around his age or young children. He was 14 when it occurred.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/43 "2015-05-22T00:17:18Z")

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This is well outside the category of “kids doing stupid things.” He wasn’t a 3-year-old playing doctor. Josh was old enough to know right from wrong. He molested _several_ of his sisters, some of them while they were sleeping. His sisters may claim to have forgiven him, but I can’t imagine the pain and fear of having to live in the same house with him.

The Duggar parents share some of the blame for creating an environment of intense sexual repression. These kids aren’t allowed to masturbate or look at scantily-clad women, and they are taught that having sexual urges towards anyone besides your spouse is evil.

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**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/44 "2015-05-22T01:11:14Z")

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> [@grude](#):
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> No where does it detail the ages of the victims, so we don’t know if they were around his age or young children. He was 14 when it occurred.

I don’t even follow the show that closely, but it’s trivially easy to look at the ages in relation to what we know of the siblings birth order and spacing between ages. They’d have been between 8 and 12.

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**Author:** ![Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disgruntled_Penguin)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/45 "2015-05-22T01:22:46Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> I missed the edit window; It get’s [worse](https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/celeb-news/josh-duggar-named-in-underage-sex-abuse-scandal--report-195532368.html) the cop fucking Jim Bob reported told to was a “family friend” who not neglected to report it to DHS, \*\* but is now severing a 56 year sentence for child pornography\*\*. Josh has resigned from the FRC. It’ll be interesting to see how the show addresses this since it’s gotten to big to ignore.

:eek:

Talk about the punishment fitting the crime.

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/46 "2015-05-22T01:41:32Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Stupid teenagers do stupid shit. Not condoning his behavior, and not saying I did anything like that when I was a kid, but dang I did some dumbass embarrassing shit when I was a teen.
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> I hope for his wife and kids’ sake that this isn’t some ongoing sexual thing with him, and I actually doubt it is. Like I said, stupid teenagers do stupid shit.

He sexually abused his sisters while they were sleeping. That’s not “teenagers doing stupid things”. It’s sexual abuse.

If you read the police report it says that the victims were the children of JimBob and Michelle Duggar.

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/47 "2015-05-22T01:46:19Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> They still do educational programming as well: _Here Comes Honey Boo Boo_. (I wonder how long before they make a dynastic marriage between one of the Duggar boys and one of the Boo-Boo daughters, one of whom is a proven breeder which should appeal to them.

They could name the spin-off _Here Comes Another Illiterate Redneck Baby_.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/48 "2015-05-22T01:46:25Z")

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Well, when you set up your family’s social milieu using “Flowers In The Attic” as a model…

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/49 "2015-05-22T02:01:50Z")

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The worst part is that JimBob and J’chelle believe that if a woman is sexually assaulted it’s her fault for stirring up desires in the male. I can fully believe that they would have blamed their daughters for all of this. They are truly sickening people.

How long until TLC cancels the show and the gravy train is over? Right his moment TLC is airing a rerun of an interview with the family by Erica Hill.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/50 "2015-05-22T03:13:41Z")

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> [@Honey](#):
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> The worst part is that JimBob and J’chelle believe that if a woman is sexually assaulted it’s her fault for stirring up desires in the male.

They do? Cite?

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/51 "2015-05-22T03:31:15Z")

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The most recent episode of the show featured Michelle describing how girls should dress modestly so as not to inflame male desires. She loves to tell the story of how, as a teenager, she would mow her lawn wearing a bikini (this was before she found Christ). All of her neighbors’ wives hated her and she couldn’t figure out why. After she became a fundamentalist she decided that she was guilty of “defrauding” their husbands.

Given the attitudes of their parents, it’s highly likely that Josh’s sisters feel partly responsible for what Josh did to them.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/52 "2015-05-22T03:36:36Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> They do? Cite?

It’s the belief of the cult of Gothard, who coincidentally is also a sexual offender. Woman and girls must keep covered, lest they stir up feelings of desire in men, that cannot be righteously fulfilled outside of marriage. They refer to it as defrauding the man. That comes right from the mouths of JimBob and Michelle.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/53 "2015-05-22T06:23:46Z")

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Betcha a nickel the girls never received any counseling, beyond, “Never speak of your shame; it would ruin your brother’s life.”

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/54 "2015-05-22T06:36:05Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Stupid teenagers do stupid shit. Not condoning his behavior, and not saying I did anything like that when I was a kid, but dang I did some dumbass embarrassing shit when I was a teen.

Molesting one’s siblings goes way beyond “dumbass embarassing shit”.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/55 "2015-05-22T09:42:30Z")

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I’m a bit behind the curve here. How does it come to pass that this is being revealed NOW?

Also I confess to being mildly curious as to whether the FRC was kept in the dark about the situation while Master Duggar was negotiating the terms of his employment.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/56 "2015-05-22T11:07:17Z")

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> [@SaharaTea](#):
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> The most recent episode of the show featured Michelle describing how girls should dress modestly so as not to inflame male desires. She loves to tell the story of how, as a teenager, she would mow her lawn wearing a bikini (this was before she found Christ). All of her neighbors’ wives hated her and she couldn’t figure out why. After she became a fundamentalist she decided that she was guilty of “defrauding” their husbands.
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> Given the attitudes of their parents, it’s highly likely that Josh’s sisters feel partly responsible for what Josh did to them.

I’m glad I’ve avoided this horrible show. WTF!

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/57 "2015-05-22T11:23:01Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Molesting one’s siblings goes way beyond “dumbass embarassing shit”.

I did all kinds of “dumbass embarrassing shit” as a teenager. Molesting my brother or sister? Nope.

Show of hands. Who here molested their siblings as a teen?

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/58 "2015-05-22T11:55:53Z")

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According to their statement the family got counseling for “those affected,” but I’m sure it was church counseling, not trained professionals for helping victims of sexual abuse.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/59 "2015-05-22T11:56:55Z")

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Sexual abuse of siblings is not youthful shenanigans.

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I’m a bit behind the curve here. How does it come to pass that this is being revealed NOW?

I assume that it came out now because Josh was set to become executive director of the FRC and people looked much more closely at his background. When he was just a reality TV participant, he didn’t have the level of scrutiny that he has now, and people who were content to sit on this decided it was now time to talk.

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