# Josh Duggar (Duggar kid 1/19) to be executive director of Family Research Council **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 19, 2013, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369 "2013-06-19T16:22:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/161 "2015-05-23T16:55:39Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I just can’t condem an Adult for something they did in childhood. That goes against everything our modern juvenile courts stand for. They even seal juvenile court records when the kid turns 18. Giving them a fresh start in life as an adult. How they use that second chance is up to them. Some troubled kids spend their adult lives in and out of prison. Some live responsible and productive lives. It’s important they aren’t stigmatized and condemned as adults for something they did as a juvenile. Getting a job for example, or joining the military. Their childhood court records are sealed for a reason. In all your posts you’ve said absolutely nothing about the impact Josh’s crimes had on his victims. It’s like you have zero concern or even awareness of them. Josh’s actions didn’t exist in a vacuum, they had real and life-long consequences for at least five young girls. So forgive me if I’m not that worried about the stigma on poor Josh, because the impact on his victims is much, much worse. ---
**Author:** ![soonerblue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soonerblue/32/3302_2.png) [@soonerblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soonerblue)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/162 "2015-05-23T17:02:36Z")
> [@tnetennba](#): > > Talk to anyone in child development – they will tell you that some forms of curiosity are normal, and others, like feeling up your baby sister, are absolutely not normal, not youthful indiscretions, not misdeeds of a teen, but signs of serious trouble that need to be treated. The Duggars did NOT seek treatment, they did some random things that now look like an effort to stall so the molestations were too far back to prosecute. I was curious about what age pedophilia could first manifest in a person, so I Googled a bit, found the following, but it only raised more questions. “What the Josh Duggar Fiasco Can Teach Us About Pedophilia” > **[What the Josh Duggar Fiasco Can Teach Us About Pedophilia](https://time.com/3894293/josh-duggar-molestation-claims-pedophilia/)** > > It raises familiar questions with no easy answers I did find this interesting: “…All of this points either to the genes or prenatal womb environment, or both, meaning that pedophilia is innate, unchosen and as fixed as anyone else’s sexuality.” It also had a link to this: “Arkansas Police Destroy Record of Josh Duggar Investigation” [http://time.com/3894843/josh-duggar-police-record-destroyed/](http://time.com/3894843/josh-duggar-police-record-destroyed/) “…Duggar was accused of fondling five girls in 2002 and 2003.” So it was more than once. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/163 "2015-05-23T17:09:48Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Well, a little bit of good news. The producer of the show claims the camera crews have left the Duggar home and whether or not they return has not been determined. I posted yesterday about the show being pulled by TLC, but I hadn’t heard your info above. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/164 "2015-05-23T17:15:52Z")
> [@soonerblue](#): > > It also had a link to this: > > “Arkansas Police Destroy Record of Josh Duggar Investigation” > > [http://time.com/3894843/josh-duggar-police-record-destroyed/](http://time.com/3894843/josh-duggar-police-record-destroyed/) > > “…Duggar was accused of fondling five girls in 2002 and 2003.” _A judge_ ordered the records destroyed? Cover-up much? The Duggars are so ingrained in Arkansas politics that I expect there will be quite a few records destroyed over the next few weeks. ---
**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/165 "2015-05-23T17:21:42Z")
More examples of the Duggar’s attitudes towards sexual ASSAULT. > **[The Duggar Homeschool Program's Terrifying Advice on Sexual Assault](https://www.gawker.com/the-duggar-homeschool-programs-terrifying-advice-on-sex-1706406324)** > > Why were evangelical reality star and conservative political activist Josh Duggar’s parents Jim Bob and Michelle so slow to act on the revelation that their eldest son had molested his younger sisters—and, ultimately, so lenient? Documents about... ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/166 "2015-05-23T17:28:21Z")
> [@beagledave](#): > > More examples of the Duggar’s attitudes towards sexual ASSAULT. > > [http://gawker.com/the-duggar-homeschool-programs-terrifying-advice-on-sex-1706406324](http://gawker.com/the-duggar-homeschool-programs-terrifying-advice-on-sex-1706406324) I hope one of the daughters breaks away from this crazy clan and explains how things really went down when the cameras stopped rolling. It’s so terrible, yet fascinating at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/167 "2015-05-23T17:29:30Z")
The most recent observation (?) holds that the alleged friend of Jim Bob, Officer Child Porn, was also some sort of licensing agent that allowed Josh to own a car lot. I have no idea if that’s verifiable, but depending on the timing, could explain much. Also, apparently Josh was already being something (investigated?) for a purported $50,000+ in fraud. Just the laundry keeps piling up. All with good, old mom and dad pretending it didn’t exist so they could whore their kids out. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/168 "2015-05-23T17:35:12Z")
> [@bup](#): > > Right, so her reasoning is flawed, self-hating and dangerous. Right? I don’t know. But it’s certainly _inapplicable_ to sexual assault, and what the Duggars believe about sexual assault is the basis for **Honey** ’s claim and my attack on that claim. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/169 "2015-05-23T17:42:50Z")
Maybe the Duggars never took Womens Studies in college and haven’t learned the trope about sexual assault and so it does not figure into their ideology about sexual assault having to do with wanton sluts who are asking for it (while sleeping fully dressed in their beds at age five). ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/170 "2015-05-23T17:51:38Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > **Guin** , I’ve color-coded the contradiction in your post. However justified the rest of the post is, the contradiction kinda taints it, and makes the whole thing more easily attacked (or dismissed) by those who are inclined to do so. > > **Bricker** , in my view, is generally honest enough to compartmentalize his objections to the specific contradiction, and not explicitly declare the entire post to be invalid (although he _will_ allow his overall tone to invite the reader to do so); it might be wise to keep in mind that he’s not the ONLY person who might be motivated to nitpick the controversy to death. > > My point is that with a little more care, you could avoid handing **Bricker** ammunition like the bit I pointed out above. > > As for you, **Bricker** , while **BigT** ’s comments in post 148 touched on it, I’d like to elaborate on a specific facet of your contributions to this thread. If we stipulate that every statement of condemnation leveled at young Master Duggar in this thread, and to which you have raised your objections is unproven, it still seems to me that _unproven_ is the limit to the basis on which they can be legitimately impeached. And yet you freely and repeatedly\* attack them as “inaccurate.” > > I submit that “inaccurate” is a descriptor which can be applied to a statement only when the statement’s inaccuracy has been established. I’d be grateful if you would either walk back your claims of inaccuracy (and baselessness, if it’s not too much trouble), or instruct me in how my observations are inadequate to the situation. Thanks very much, and I hope you and your family are enjoying the holiday weekend. 🙂 > \*Repeatedly: [cite1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18383968&postcount=73), [cite2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18385009&postcount=124) It’s beyond cavil that they are unproven. But I don’t agree that it’s incorrect to call them “inaccurate,” as well. When a gratuitous assertion is made, it may be equally gratuitously denied. The assertion is that the claims are accurate. When I call them “inaccurate,” I am denying their accuracy. This is not a new claim on my part for which I bear the burden of persuasion. It’s the gainsay of the gratuitous assertion. Substantiating a claim belongs to the person making it; denying an unsubstantiated claim is a freebie. “Baselessness,” should be obvious as well: without suitable evidence upon which to _base_ a claim, it’s a _baseless_ claim. And I remain genuinely baffled as to why it’s necessary to pepper legitimate attacks against the Duggars and the FRC with these unsupportable claims. There’s plenty of obvious, legitimate criticisms that can be leveled here. There are plenty of others that are debatable, and can at least be argued. Why, in the midst of this wealth of ammunition, does anyone choose to use a crappy argument like **Honey** ’s? It’s as though I walked into an armory, bypassed the full auto rifles, the large bore handguns, and the anti-personnel grenades and said “Ah ha! I shall attack them with this large soap bubble!” It’s almost as though the situation has created a feeding frenzy. You pointed out **Guin** ’s self-contradictory sentences – what does through a person’s mind to type out “I sought forgiveness from those I had wronged,” and then three sentences later angrily proclaim “Not his victims!” It’s almost like a hunger to get something out there, anything to show how…how…how WRONG those dang Duggars are. Why does anyone tolerate that? Why are **kaylasdad** and I the only two to point out the absurdity of that type of criticism? You have a teenager that sexually fondled his prepubescent siblings. Why isn’t that enough outrage? It’s a bizarre, disgusting revelation. It’s not a nine year old playing doctor with his eight-year-old sister. It’s a sexually mature teen seeking a sexual encounter with a prepubescent. Yuck. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/171 "2015-05-23T18:42:11Z")
Thank you for your response, **Bricker**. I still maintain that “inaccurate” is an inappropriate term in this conversation, and here’s my thinking: A statement of fact has a truth value, whether that truth value has generally been established as apparent to the disinterested observer, or whether it has not. ISTM that there are three distinct categories that can be used to describe the truth value of any assertion: _accurate,_ _inaccurate,_ and _of undetermined accuracy._ One could arguably usefully substitute _proven,_ _disproven,_ and _unproven_ as descriptors for these categories. In the context of an online debate (as opposed to, say, a jury trial), I do not agree that it is legitimate to conflate the second and third categories, any more than it is to conflate the first and third. Similarly, our not being in a courtroom (once again, ISTM) suggests that the bar for “baselessness” could be raised a bit higher than “suitable evidence upon which to base a claim,” particularly in the absence of anyone vested with the authority to decide what is and what is not “suitable.” I might not be comfortable with innuendo, but extrapolation from what we know of Gothardite teaching materials, and the degree to which the family has already demonstrated strict adherence to Gothardite principles should move the assessment of some statements from “baseless” to AT LEAST “circumstantial.” ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/172 "2015-05-23T21:41:37Z")
Bricker, you asked why it is “likely” that the Duggars may indulge in victim shaming. Here is why it seems likely to me: The Duggars use the texts and materials from ATI and Institute in Basic Life Principles. They have, I believe, discussed these materials on their show. They were speakers at a Gothard conference in 2014, and [members](http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--NaOk9g6V--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/gkf82ja8gu5bur4abxms.jpg) of the family have reportedly spoken at several Basic Life Principles seminars. In fact, these seminars are promoted on their [website](http://duggarfamily.com/). After Gothard’s sex [scandals](http://www.recoveringgrace.org/2013/06/a-call-to-repentance/), the Duggars did not appear to make much of an effort to [distance](http://powderroom.kinja.com/how-are-the-duggars-dealing-with-the-gothard-sex-scanda-1581883720) themselves from the behavior of their buddy, Bill Gothard. We have now seen [two](http://www.recoveringgrace.org/2014/04/there-is-no-victim-a-survey-of-iblp-literature-on-sexual-assault-and-abuse/) [documents](http://www.recoveringgrace.org/2015/05/gracenote/#more) from said Institute that appear to put at least some of the blame for the abuse squarely on the victims’ narrow shoulders. The documents make much of “defrauding” and the importance of “modesty.” Those are two much used words in the Duggar lexicon; Michelle actually had the show put black boxes over her KNEES to preserve her modesty in a shot that inadvertently showed them. (see previous article about Duggars and Bill Gothard) She has referred to the fact that when she was younger, she dressed [immodestly](http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/19-kids-and-counting/michelle-duggars-blog/michelle-duggar-modesty-and-bathing-suits/) and this was defrauding men that saw her dressed that way. The document also mentions that a victim may be to blame if she leaves the protection of her parents, and this appears to be related to the courtship practices highlighted on the show. A couple that is courting is never alone; family is always with them. The daughters have said, in their book, how important it is to behave and dress modestly to avoid being in immoral or [unsafe](http://religiondispatches.org/duggar-daughters-talk-sex-courtship-and-fear-of-ungodly-men/) situations. Does this all add up to evidence that would sway a jury? No, of course not. Does it definitively mean that the Duggars are inclined to victim blame? I hope not, for the sake of their girls. Does it make it likely, in my mind, that the family also embraces the sexual abuse counseling tactics promoted through the Institute they are immersed in? I would say yes, it is “likely.” Your mileage may vary. ETA: I believe most, if not all, of the linked cites have already been posted in this thread. I merely want to point out that when taken together, it paints a worrisome picture of the family in terms of blame and reactions to sexual abuse. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/173 "2015-05-23T22:44:31Z")
It’s also creepy that Josh (along with his brothers) basically had control over who his sisters could date and marry. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/174 "2015-05-23T23:02:28Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > I posted yesterday about the show being pulled by TLC, but I hadn’t heard your info above. TLC pulled reruns of the show from their schedule (the latest production season already ended), but haven’t officially cancelled it yet. I wonder who ordered the crews to stop filming; TLC or Duggars. Also what rights does TLC have over the raw footage they already have; do the Duggars still have a say in how it’s edited, or can TLC do whatever they want with it? > [@monstro](#): > > I hope one of the daughters breaks away from this crazy clan and explains how things really went down when the cameras stopped rolling. It’s so terrible, yet fascinating at the same time. I’ve always the real entertainment will be in 10-20 yrs when the kids are adults and start breaking away and selling their own stories. ---
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/175 "2015-05-23T23:08:24Z")
Let me ask this: do you all think this kind of thing is maybe more common in huge families where the parents just can’t cope and leave the younger ones to be ‘raised’ by the older ones? Throw in religion and homeschooling and I think it’s not unheard of. I ask because there was a huge family living next door where the kids were not allowed to play with normal neighborhood kids. The two oldest, boy and girl, rode together on the school bus sitting next to each other every. single. day. Then there was a younger kid in the family who got some dread disease, taking up the time and attention of the parents, shopping around various doctors, hospitalizations, etc… And then… they just up moved to some culty compound out west, I’d heard. After the 14 year old girl was rumoured to be pregnant…So have any studies been done? It makes sense to me. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/176 "2015-05-23T23:09:47Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > It’s also creepy that Josh (along with his brothers) basically had control over who his sisters could date and marry. The _father_ chooses the person his daughter courts, not her brothers. The father has control over his daughter, until he hands over control to her husband. Why do you think the brothers have this responsibility? ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/177 "2015-05-23T23:16:10Z")
[Here’s](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2015/05/22/the-duggars-dangerous-cult-of-purity/) an article about their idiotic cult of purity and how it screws over just about everyone. For all we’re told about what great parents they are the truth is that the Duggars are actually really shitty at it. The article makes the excellent point that the Duggars stupid cultish beliefs made a bad situation even worse. Josh and his sisters needed counseling. Instead they got a stinky pile of medieval bullshit that probably only made things much worse. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/178 "2015-05-23T23:20:26Z")
> [@Honey](#): > > The _father_ chooses the person his daughter courts, not her brothers. The father has control over his daughter, until he hands over control to her husband. > > Why do you think the brothers have this responsibility? Well, the brothers do have some influence: > **[The Duggars' 7 rules of courtship: 'Love is in the air' (but no kissing) ](https://www.today.com/parents/duggars-7-rules-courtship-love-air-no-kissing-2D79464674)** > > "Courting" is the theme on the new season of TLC’s hit reality show "19 Kids and Counting," which stars the Duggar family and premieres tonight.Two Duggar daughters – Jessa, 20, and Jill, 22 – begin relationships with their respective beaus, Ben... _Rule 3: Brothers know best. All of the Duggar boys have been chaperones to Ben and Jessa, even the younger ones who will go along with them to a coffee shop or out to dinner. Jim Bob and Michelle say there is something special about the way brothers size up a potential suitor. “The brothers can see how they treat mom and dad, or see whether they show the sisters respect,” Michelle says, adding that each brother has given Jessa their opinion of Ben._ But it’s ultimately the father’s call. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/179 "2015-05-23T23:46:19Z")
> [@SaharaTea](#): > > In all your posts you’ve said absolutely nothing about the impact Josh’s crimes had on his victims. It’s like you have zero concern or even awareness of them. Josh’s actions didn’t exist in a vacuum, they had real and life-long consequences for at least five young girls. So forgive me if I’m not that worried about the stigma on poor Josh, because the impact on his victims is much, much worse. It’s a given that the girls were counseled and comforted. I’m a dad and can’t imagine the horror of discovering that a trusted family member touched either of my daughters. Getting my daughters help to cope would be my first concern. Heck, my entire family would need counseling to deal with something this terrible. Anytime a kid commits a serious crime rehabilitation is in society’s best interest. A 14 year old still has an average of another 66 years to live. Do we want vengeance and throw him/her in a cell to rot for a few years? Then watch them get out and spend those 66 years committing more and more serious crimes? It’s the taxpayers that foots the bill for the court cases and prison terms that person serves. Rehabilitate that 14 year old in prison or some outside court ordered program. Now, you have a productive and lawful member of society. It was decided in America at least 80 to 100 years ago to focus the Justice System on rehabilitation. Not only to redirect a troubled and wasted life, but it’s in society’s long term, best interest. I don’t know for certain that Josh hasn’t touched a kid since he was caught and talked to the State police. But, so far there’s no indication that he has done anything but live an upstanding life as an adult. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369/180 "2015-05-23T23:55:43Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > It’s a given that the girls were counseled and comforted. No it isn’t. That’s the problem. The comforting the girls likely received probably focused on blaming them. But we don’t know because despite the spite the fact that they tell us everything, I’m pretty sure they haven’t told us what exactly they did to help the girls after they were molested by their bro. The parents are smug, incompetent assholes with very little defense for their actions here. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/josh-duggar-duggar-kid-1-19-to-be-executive-director-of-family-research-council/661369.md?page=10)