# Journeyman **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 13, 2007, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/journeyman/426210 "2007-11-13T04:07:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/journeyman/426210/21 "2007-11-13T20:11:09Z")
The lead’s accent is way different from his brother’s. I know that McKidd (Dan) is from Scotland and Diamond (Jack) from NYC, but it becomes very noticable when McKidd tries to take on his brother’s accent in a couple of the scenes. ---
**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/journeyman/426210/22 "2007-11-13T20:27:04Z")
I was wondering if I missed something at the end. When Jack gives the 20 to the bartender, was it the one from evidence that he took to protect Dan, or was he just looking at it and thinking about Dan’s earlier story about time traveling and where that 20 in evidence came from? ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/journeyman/426210/23 "2007-11-13T20:28:27Z")
I kept watching for the first few episodes, but then for some reason stopped when it started to get really interesting (the last ep I saw had Dan (that’s the main guy’s name, right?) getting a phone call _in the past_ from the time-travel scientist. I thought that was a really cool premise, and was wondering where they were going to go with it, but then I started working a few Monday nights and didn’t bother to catch up. Maybe now I should, especially with more scientist stuff, future/past girlfriend (?), and so forth. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/journeyman/426210/24 "2007-11-13T21:11:07Z")
[QUOTE=Lok] I was wondering if I missed something at the end. When Jack gives the 20 to the bartender, was it the one from evidence that he took to protect Dan, or was he just looking at it and thinking about Dan’s earlier story about time traveling and where that 20 in evidence came from? [/QUOTE] My coworker and I were talking about that this morning; he was under the impression that the $20 was the one that Dan gave the cabbie, but I argued that the FBI agent had shown him that original bill sealed in an evidence bag, so it must have been a normal bill. But then he said that the FBI agent had said that the original bill was “missing” from the case file. So what exactly went on there? ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/journeyman/426210/25 "2007-11-13T21:22:58Z")
[QUOTE=Lok] I was wondering if I missed something at the end. When Jack gives the 20 to the bartender, was it the one from evidence that he took to protect Dan, or was he just looking at it and thinking about Dan’s earlier story about time traveling and where that 20 in evidence came from? [/QUOTE] My understanding was the latter. He’s starting to be convinced. I’d really like that to get resolved soon - there’s enough going on without the “brother doesn’t believe him” drama. Why doesn’t he just make his brother stand around in his house until he disappears? > [@](#): > > But then he said that the FBI agent had said that the original bill was “missing” from the case file. So what exactly went on there? I thought the agent was saying the original counterfit one was “missing” b/c there’s no way it could be the one that’s in there now, since there’s no way a counterfiter could have known who the future Secretary of the Treasurer could have been. IOW, the evidence bag was tampered with and replaced with this new bill. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/journeyman/426210/26 "2007-11-13T21:32:20Z")
[QUOTE=Morbo] I thought the agent was saying the original counterfit one was “missing” b/c there’s no way it could be the one that’s in there now, since there’s no way a counterfiter could have known who the future Secretary of the Treasurer could have been. IOW, the evidence bag was tampered with and replaced with this new bill. [/QUOTE] That’s what I got out of it as well. For those of you who want to catch up, it looks like the NBC website has the last five episodes out there, so you can go watch those on-line. Also, given the writer’s strike, I’d suspect that the mid-break re-runs come around sooner than normal this year. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/journeyman/426210/27 "2007-11-13T22:22:56Z")
[QUOTE=Morbo] I thought the agent was saying the original counterfit one was “missing” b/c there’s no way it could be the one that’s in there now, since there’s no way a counterfiter could have known who the future Secretary of the Treasurer could have been. IOW, the evidence bag was tampered with and replaced with this new bill. [/QUOTE] Oh! I get it… FBIman _thought_ the bill had been tampered with, because the bill he had would’ve been impossible to counterfeit based on the secretary’s signature. Got it. So, that means that the $20 at the bar was just a different bill that made Jack ponder. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/journeyman/426210/28 "2007-11-14T03:18:49Z")
[QUOTE=SiouxChief] - the one with Neelix from Star Trek Voyager, in the San Francisco earthquake. I onlyl had 20 minutes to watch, but I liked what I saw and I will be back for more! [/QUOTE] You’re a bit mixed up. It wasn’t Neelix from Voyager, it was the doctor from Enterprise. I like how they’re not wrapping everything up in one show…the bit about the scientist calling him in the past was quite intriguing. I’m confused…if Dan travels to the past and makes “course corrections” in people’s lives, what does Livia do by traveling to the future? Is she doing research? How come she shows up just when Dan’s in a sticky situation? Was she sent forward in time to establish a relationship with him, then help him when he started his travels? She seems to know a lot of what is going on, but she’s not doing the same thing he is if she’s traveling to the future. ---
**Author:** ![SiouxChief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@SiouxChief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiouxChief)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/journeyman/426210/29 "2007-11-14T04:09:14Z")
[QUOTE=ivylass] You’re a bit mixed up. It wasn’t Neelix from Voyager, it was the doctor from Enterprise. [/QUOTE] D’Oh! :smack: Good catch. My geek-fu is dwindling with age. ---
**Author:** ![mazinger\_z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@mazinger\_z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mazinger_z)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/journeyman/426210/30 "2007-11-14T06:48:03Z")
[QUOTE=SiouxChief] D’Oh! :smack: Good catch. My geek-fu is dwindling with age. [/QUOTE] For those of us joining from home, it’s Dr. Flox (I’m too lazy to see the real name and correct spelling.) I, too, like the show, but only because I like time travel. I like how the revealing parts of the story are told in a certain way, and not forcibly shoved down our throats, like say “Moonlight.” ---
**Author:** ![MichaelQReilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@MichaelQReilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelQReilly)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/journeyman/426210/31 "2007-11-14T19:28:41Z")
The funniest part about this show for me is every time Dan is in a sticky situation, I find myself thinking, “You’re Vorenus damn it, just kick everyone’s ass!” ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/journeyman/426210/32 "2007-11-14T19:58:45Z")
[QUOTE=MichaelQReilly] The funniest part about this show for me is every time Dan is in a sticky situation, I find myself thinking, “You’re Vorenus damn it, just kick everyone’s ass!” [/QUOTE] This last ep I watched (the one with Dr. Flox), has Dan waking up on the pavement in front of huge Roman-looking columns. Of course we made a few Rome jokes, but then the B-52’s “Roam If You Want To” started playing, and we nearly snorted drinks out our noses. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/journeyman/426210/33 "2007-11-14T20:02:08Z")
[QUOTE=MichaelQReilly] Is anyone out there still watching this show? I tuned in because the show had Vorenus. [/quote] Yeah me, too… > [@](#): > > The show started off kind of slow, but I stuck with it and it actually turns out to be pretty good. …, but I only watched the first episode. I thought it was absolutely terrible, so I gave up on it. Are you saying I should’ve stuck it out? Maybe I’ll catch up on the re-runds when all the other shows are not being aired because of the writers’ strike. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jharvey963](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/54ee81/32.png) [@jharvey963](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jharvey963)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/journeyman/426210/34 "2007-11-14T22:44:07Z")
[QUOTE=ivylass] I’m confused…if Dan travels to the past and makes “course corrections” in people’s lives, what does Livia do by traveling to the future? Is she doing research? How come she shows up just when Dan’s in a sticky situation? Was she sent forward in time to establish a relationship with him, then help him when he started his travels? She seems to know a lot of what is going on, but she’s not doing the same thing he is if she’s traveling to the future. [/QUOTE] Here’s my guess: it’s some “conservation of time” thing (like conservation of momentum). In order to get someone from the present to travel into the past, maybe they have to “balance” that out by getting someone from the past to travel into their future. You heard it here first. 😃 J. ---
**Author:** ![Achren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Achren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achren)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/journeyman/426210/35 "2007-11-14T23:08:46Z")
I’m a bit confused about the money - can comeone help me out? I thought all the money was in the bag Livia brought back to the past so Dan could join the poker game. Where was the rest of the money that they were worried about the FBI finding? Why wasn’t it in the bag with the rest? ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/journeyman/426210/36 "2007-11-15T02:39:45Z")
I’m liking the series. What I really like is that the characters are intelligent; I’m tired of all-around stupidity being major plot points. The brothers’ realtionship over the wife is very interesting and having a kid will complicate the whole swapping the second-choice wife for Livia possiblity. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/journeyman/426210/37 "2007-11-15T03:24:06Z")
[QUOTE=Achren] I’m a bit confused about the money - can comeone help me out? I thought all the money was in the bag Livia brought back to the past so Dan could join the poker game. Where was the rest of the money that they were worried about the FBI finding? Why wasn’t it in the bag with the rest? [/QUOTE] I think the idea is that Main Character (it was my first episode), at one point, went back to the 80’s with a modern bill. Somehow, that cabbie gave a good enough description that the feds still had it on record - even if Main Character would have been in his early 20’s but the cabbie would have seen someone in the his 40’s. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/journeyman/426210/38 "2007-11-15T04:09:37Z")
**Achren** is asking about the money from the hijacking, not the 20 that got turned in by the cabbie. And the cabbie stuff happened in the early 2000s, since Dan was chased by his brother, who was a street cop at the time. ---
**Author:** ![MichaelQReilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@MichaelQReilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelQReilly)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/journeyman/426210/39 "2007-11-15T04:23:19Z")
In answer **Achen** ’s question, I don’t think they really said. Maybe the box that Livia took back only had some of the money in it. Thats the only real explanation I can think of. It would make sense because Dan had money to give to the hippie robbers during the holdup. Assuming that is what happened, it could be helpful to Dan in the present, because if he brought some of the money back to the past, then I assume it will change the present and the FBI guy will know some of it was out there, making Dan having it less suspicious. Although, that risks opening up weird continuity things that the writers have so far avoided. We’ll see, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/journeyman/426210/40 "2007-11-15T05:33:38Z")
[QUOTE=MichaelQReilly The whole triangle between Vorenus, his wife, and his brother is also well done. [/QUOTE] _Please_ no silly nicknames. But I hate the “love quadrangle” part of it. And it’s starting to annoy me that Dan is getting really fucked over by being forced into this. But it’s the same with Chuck, why doesn’t Chuck demand (at least) the CIA fix his expulsion? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/journeyman/426210.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/journeyman/426210.md?page=3)