# Joy Page is Dead! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 25, 2008, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-page-is-dead/446799 "2008-04-25T04:46:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-page-is-dead/446799/1 "2008-04-25T04:46:43Z")
OMG! [Joy Page](http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-page24apr24,1,2206500.story) has died at 83! She was the very sexy (and very underage) girl in Casablanca who begged Rick for his advice. “If a person did something very, very bed and locked it away in her heart …” She only got the part because she was family. Damn. She was one of my earliest crushes. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-page-is-dead/446799/2 "2008-04-25T05:08:00Z")
I’m surprised to see that she was not the last surviving cast member. Madeleine LeBeau (Yvonne) is still alive at 84. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-page-is-dead/446799/3 "2008-04-25T15:59:53Z")
One bump. In the event anyone else remembers her. (sigh) ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-page-is-dead/446799/4 "2008-04-25T16:45:31Z")
Oh - heck yeah. The hot - what? Romanian? Bulgarian? - refugee who was married but whom Claude Rains’ Louis was trying to get into bed? She was cute! If not very convincing as a European refugee. ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-page-is-dead/446799/5 "2008-04-25T17:21:43Z")
I was recently watching _Casablanca_ on TV, so I remember her very well (she was supposed to be Bulgarian, btw). I was always amused by Louis’ indignation that Rick chose to interfere with his attempt to get her to sleep with him. Oh, and while I was watching it a friend called during the “Marseilles” scene and asked what I was listening to. I was shocked (shocked, I tell you) to find out that she had never seen _Casablanca_. One of these days I will correct this gap in her cinematic experience. ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-page-is-dead/446799/6 "2008-04-25T17:28:40Z")
[QUOTE=WordMan] She was cute! If not very convincing as a European refugee. [/QUOTE] Well, if you have Jews playing the roles of Nazis in the movie, it seems quite reasonable to have an American playing the part of a Bulgarian. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-page-is-dead/446799/7 "2008-04-25T20:01:00Z")
The actress I recall just barely – I do remember that she was beautiful. What stuck with me about the scene is that, despite his blatant attempt at sexual extortion, Captain Renault clearly is intended to be a sympathetic character, if a little rakish; it clearly is not even intended to strike a jarring note when, bested by Rick’s generous rigging of his own table, he remarks that there will be a French lady in the Cafe Americain the following day and “I would greatly appreciate it if she lost.” In this story, that is within his rights. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-page-is-dead/446799/8 "2008-04-25T20:10:48Z")
[QUOTE=Paul in Saudi] “If a person did something very, very **bed** and locked it away in her heart …” [/QUOTE] I think you were jumping ahead here… ---
**Author:** ![Mrs.Cake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2acd7d/32.png) [@Mrs.Cake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs.Cake)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-page-is-dead/446799/9 "2008-04-25T21:01:33Z")
I remember her. The scene always stuck out in my mind because I have a huge lech for Claude Raines. My reaction was “you idiot, you get your visas _and_ you get to sleep with Claude Raines? And you have a problem with this??” Yes, a very beautiful actress indeed. ---
**Author:** ![lawoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/35a633/32.png) [@lawoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lawoot)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-page-is-dead/446799/10 "2008-04-25T21:44:25Z")
Weakest casting in _Casablanca_. I always felt she sounded like Dorothy’s (_The Wiazrd of Oz_) pen-pal from Bulgaria, Kansas. Still sad to hear of her going, though. (Madeleine LeBeau was, to me, the most beautiful woman in the movie… ) ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-page-is-dead/446799/11 "2008-04-25T21:45:36Z")
[QUOTE=Mrs. Cake] I remember her. The scene always stuck out in my mind because I have a huge lech for Claude Raines. [/QUOTE] You just hafta be pretty old. Hey! I can say that, because I’m probably older than you. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kelly5078](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6f9a4e/32.png) [@kelly5078](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kelly5078)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-page-is-dead/446799/12 "2008-04-25T22:37:08Z")
I see from imdb that she was also Jack Warner’s stepdaughter and was married for a long time to William T. Orr, who was executive producer for a whole heap of Warner Bros. TV shows (“Cheyenne,” “77 Sunset Strip”) etc. Of course, you could get that from the link too. :o Edited for stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2008, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-page-is-dead/446799/13 "2008-04-26T00:56:31Z")
Joy Page, Humphrey Bogart, and Dooley Wilson were the only (credited) actors in the movie who were born in the U.S.: > **[Casablanca (film)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casablanca_(film))** > > Casablanca is a 1942 American romantic drama film directed by Michael Curtiz, and starring Humphrey Bogart, Ingrid Bergman, and Paul Henreid. Filmed and set during World War II, it focuses on an American expatriate (Bogart) who must choose between his love for a woman (Bergman) and helping her husband (Henreid), a Czechoslovak resistance leader, escape from the Vichy-controlled city of Casablanca to continue his fight against the Germans. The screenplay is based on Everybody Comes to Rick's, ...