# Joy Reid Says She Was Hacked (But She Wasn't)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-reid-says-she-was-hacked-but-she-wasnt/813248>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [April 28, 2018, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-reid-says-she-was-hacked-but-she-wasnt/813248 "2018-04-28T00:21:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![LAZombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b38774/32.png) [@LAZombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LAZombie)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-reid-says-she-was-hacked-but-she-wasnt/813248/21 "2018-04-28T13:45:58Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> Well, Reid’s lawyer says the FBI has launched a criminal investigation, so she is either telling the truth, forgot the truth, or very, very stupid.

Am I the only person who is outraged that the FBI is devoting resources to what is basically vandalism? They don’t have time to stop Nicholas Cruz from slaughtering 17 people, but they can drop everything to see if someone’s personal blog was hacked? I guess it’s possible that Reid’s lawyer is lying about this.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-reid-says-she-was-hacked-but-she-wasnt/813248/22 "2018-04-28T13:55:52Z")

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> [@LAZombie](#):
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> Am I the only person who is outraged that the FBI is devoting resources to what is basically vandalism? They don’t have time to stop Nicholas Cruz from slaughtering 17 people, but they can drop everything to see if someone’s personal blog was hacked? I guess it’s possible that Reid’s lawyer is lying about this.

I think Joy Reid very likely said was she said and lying now to try to cover it up.

But IF she didn’t and these blog posts were a result of more recent hacks by external agents (Russian hackers/trolls, for example), then I can see why the FBI might be interested in looking into it to eliminate that possibility. It’s not rocket science to look at Google and [Internet Archive](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Archive) logs. Their IT forensic professionals can do that in a matter of a few hours and move on with more important things if it turns out that she is lying.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-reid-says-she-was-hacked-but-she-wasnt/813248/23 "2018-04-28T13:56:59Z")

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What makes you think they’re dropping everything else? The FBI is a big organization, capable of conducting many different investigations at once.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-reid-says-she-was-hacked-but-she-wasnt/813248/24 "2018-04-28T14:00:04Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> Ditto - this is the first I’ve ever heard of her. Based on **Bricker** ’s link, I’d have to agree that it sounds likely that she is another bigot that would prefer not to be thought of as one.

Never hear of her, and I watch MSNBC. My first thought was: she that lady on _The View_ (which I don’t watch)? But I think that is a different flavor of Joy.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-reid-says-she-was-hacked-but-she-wasnt/813248/25 "2018-04-28T14:05:32Z")

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Her show just started and she sure ain’t dodging the issue.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-reid-says-she-was-hacked-but-she-wasnt/813248/26 "2018-04-28T14:06:15Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Never hear of her, and I watch MSNBC. My first thought was: she that lady on _The View_ (which I don’t watch)? But I think that is a different flavor of Joy.

\<underline mine\>

What sort of racist remark is that, John? :dubious:

😉

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**Author:** ![LAZombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b38774/32.png) [@LAZombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LAZombie)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-reid-says-she-was-hacked-but-she-wasnt/813248/27 "2018-04-28T14:10:39Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I think Joy Reid very likely said was she said and lying now to try to cover it up.
> 
> But IF she didn’t and these blog posts were a result of more recent hacks by external agents (Russian hackers/trolls, for example), then I can see why the FBI might be interested in looking into it to eliminate that possibility. It’s not rocket science to look at Google and [Internet Archive](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Archive) logs. Their IT forensic professionals can do that in a matter of a few hours and move on with more important things if it turns out that she is lying.

Is anybody’s life in danger? Would the hack result in a massive data breach and result in thousands of people having their personal information compromised? Is she such an important person that the hack could lead to more serious crimes affecting many more people?

It’s hard enough to get law enforcement to attend to real crimes. Only the elites get this special treatment.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-reid-says-she-was-hacked-but-she-wasnt/813248/28 "2018-04-28T14:32:14Z")

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> [@LAZombie](#):
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> Is anybody’s life in danger? Would the hack result in a massive data breach and result in thousands of people having their personal information compromised? Is she such an important person that the hack could lead to more serious crimes affecting many more people?
> 
> It’s hard enough to get law enforcement to attend to real crimes. Only the elites get this special treatment.

_IF_ this was a hack, and I’m not saying it was. But _IF_ it was, I can see why her relatively high profile as a member of the progressive media would rise to the level of importance for the FBI to investigate. Given the political climate and all.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-reid-says-she-was-hacked-but-she-wasnt/813248/29 "2018-04-28T14:41:02Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> \<underline mine\>
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> What sort of racist remark is that, John? :dubious:
> 
> 😉

Hah! It was originally “a Joy of a different color”, but I changed it.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-reid-says-she-was-hacked-but-she-wasnt/813248/30 "2018-04-28T14:47:30Z")

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> [@LAZombie](#):
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> Only the elites get this special treatment.

Heh. Elites.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-reid-says-she-was-hacked-but-she-wasnt/813248/31 "2018-04-28T14:49:43Z")

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I’ve heard of other examples of embarrassing posts on social media involving celebs/semi-celebs that were claimed to be cases of hacking by nefarious parties, but damned if I can recall a single case that was proven to be so. :dubious:

As for the obscure (at least to me) Joy Reid, props to **Bryan Ekers** for combining two of the standard knee-jerk defenses when one’s partisan ox is gored: 1) the nothing-to-see-here-move-along excuse, plus 2) They Do It Too.

In the spirit of #2, my favorite “the dog hacked my computer” story is that of Sharyl Atkisson, one-time CBS News correspondent and more recent purveyor of government conspiracy and antivax theories, who’s made a virtual industry of her claim that the deep state (or its equivalent) hacked her computer and personal info (a more sober interpretation is that she was the victim of [a stuck delete key](https://www.salon.com/2015/02/02/a_right_wing_hack_undone_sharyl_attkissons_white_house_hacking_allegation_takes_a_hit/)).

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**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-reid-says-she-was-hacked-but-she-wasnt/813248/32 "2018-04-28T15:14:45Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> My own view is that it’s unlikely that she doesn’t remember, when the specific posts are in front of her to refresh her recollection.

Maybe. But being that you have absolutely no clue as to her powers of recall, it’s really just a guess, isn’t it?

Do you really want to debate something here, or just get in a dig at a liberal pundit?

Edit: For the record, I think she’s full of shit, but that’s just a guess.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-reid-says-she-was-hacked-but-she-wasnt/813248/33 "2018-04-28T15:30:24Z")

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Pretty-darn-liberal here:

While the name sounded vaguely familiar, I had no idea who Joy Reid was before I opened this thread. However, I figured that since \*\*Bricker \*\*started the thread, Joy had to be a liberal of some sort, because apparently \*\*Bricker \*\*only cares when liberals are bad people.

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**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-reid-says-she-was-hacked-but-she-wasnt/813248/34 "2018-04-28T15:40:08Z")

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> [@LAZombie](#):
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> Is anybody’s life in danger? Would the hack result in a massive data breach and result in thousands of people having their personal information compromised? Is she such an important person that the hack could lead to more serious crimes affecting many more people?
> 
> It’s hard enough to get law enforcement to attend to real crimes. Only the elites get this special treatment.

Are you suggesting that the FBI is investigating this in order to clear Reid? Because otherwise it doesn’t make sense. “Oh, please, FBI, I did something offensive in the past, but have no way to prove it. I know I’m not an elite, but please look into this anyway and verify it, so that as much humiliation and shame as possible can be brought down on me.”

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-reid-says-she-was-hacked-but-she-wasnt/813248/35 "2018-04-28T15:42:50Z")

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> Pretty-darn-liberal here:
> 
> While the name sounded vaguely familiar, I had no idea who Joy Reid was before I opened this thread. However, I figured that since \*\*Bricker \*\*started the thread, Joy had to be a liberal of some sort, because apparently \*\*Bricker \*\*only cares when liberals are bad people.

More a matter of “Look, you guys do it to so my guys get a pass”.  
Maybe that’s the debate.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-reid-says-she-was-hacked-but-she-wasnt/813248/36 "2018-04-28T16:22:01Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Is he the very model of a modern liberal weenie-man?  
> Filled to brim with Soviet-era sweeping economic plans.  
> He goes to court to chant support for all abortions that he can  
> And is dismayed should Roe v Wade be challenged by some dumb caveman.
> 
> He’s very well acquainted with correctnesses political  
> And gender forms with dual norms are simply unacceptable  
> Speak free may all except of course when things get too offensible  
> He shall be curt should feelings hurt because he is quite sensible.
> 
> Upset was he that Hillary could not stage a victory show  
> And horrorstruck he cursed the schmucks who cheered while orange Donald crowed  
> He claimed that she, compared with he, was clearly a more thorough pro  
> But secretly and all along, he was much more a Bernie Bro.
> 
> On firearms he sees no harm in calling for an outright ban  
> At nationalists, he’ll gladly hiss and call them members of the Klan,  
> And chortle at his clever wit before he sits to eat some flan,  
> In truth the very model of a modern liberal-weenie man.

I sang it all the way through. Nicely done. 🙂

That ‘victory’ thing is awkward, but it’s not that it’s missing a syllable, it just ends up having an odd emphasis. ‘Big vict’ry’ would work there.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-reid-says-she-was-hacked-but-she-wasnt/813248/37 "2018-04-28T16:29:14Z")

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Btw, I had the same reaction to the thread…Joy who?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-reid-says-she-was-hacked-but-she-wasnt/813248/38 "2018-04-28T16:53:17Z")

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Perhaps one day we will bask in a golden age, when hypocrisy might be thought a bigger threat to the Republic than incompetence and stupidity.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-reid-says-she-was-hacked-but-she-wasnt/813248/39 "2018-04-28T17:07:33Z")

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I, for one, will not be voting for Joy Reid.

But seriously, don’t we already have a SLIOTD thread for 10-year old liberal misdeeds?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joy-reid-says-she-was-hacked-but-she-wasnt/813248/40 "2018-04-28T17:11:02Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Who is Joy Reid and why should anyone care about this?
> 
> That’s why I haven’t given this any attention here on the SDMB: I don’t even know who she is.

Same here. Not only don’t I know who she/he/it is I have never seen or heard the name before this thread.

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