# Joyeuse St-Jean-Baptiste! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 24, 2001, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joyeuse-st-jean-baptiste/69945 "2001-06-24T05:30:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joyeuse-st-jean-baptiste/69945/21 "2001-06-25T01:34:54Z")
**matt\_** , qu’est-ce que c’est que “shibby”? j’suis vieux codger de l’ouest qui ne connaît pas tous ces nouveux mots. ---
**Author:** ![Sassy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@Sassy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sassy)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joyeuse-st-jean-baptiste/69945/22 "2001-06-25T03:01:31Z")
eunoia > [@](#): > > I pay a round of Laurentide TM for all the world! One take one cooked! All the very naked world, half an hour of bottom! matt\_mcl > [@](#): > > When mème, I badly do not like the idea of bottom… come here, Esprix! GingerOfTheNorth > [@](#): > > My son obtained strange toy of boy. No wonder like it there to you! detop > [@](#): > > Oh, Ginger, No it’ S not have Prairie thing, goal it is still unusual here. Worse a large nozzle for you, my beautiful! Northern Piper > [@](#): > > what it that " shibby "? > > I am old codger west which does not know all these nouveux words. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joyeuse-st-jean-baptiste/69945/23 "2001-06-25T03:03:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ice Wolf \* > \*\*[hijack] > June 24 is also the anniversary of the [Battle of Bannockburn](http://www.scotclans.com/clans/1314.htm). Scots Dopers – 'tis your day too! > _“Scotland the Brave …”_ > [/hijack] \*\* Cool, since I’m part Scot AND Francophone, now I have twice as many reasons to celebrate ! [sub] opens another beer…[/sub] And another good thing… I’m off tomorrow (and next monday too !). Yea ! ---
**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joyeuse-st-jean-baptiste/69945/24 "2001-06-25T03:19:28Z")
**Sassy** , Thanks! Bwahaha! I try so hard not to use babelfish, but sometimes I just don’t understand some of the words. Now I know y’all don’t have any idea what we’re talking about \. Bannockburn… sounds like something Pocahontas did when she wasn’t paying attention. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joyeuse-st-jean-baptiste/69945/25 "2001-06-25T07:22:47Z")
Sacre bleu cheese dressing! Esprix ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joyeuse-st-jean-baptiste/69945/26 "2001-06-25T07:44:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by detop \* > Y’a tu d’la biere icitte?! > Y’a tu d’la biere icitte?! \*\* Si y’a pas d’bière icitte, On crisse not’camp d’icitte. \*\* [/QUOTE] Ah les fraises et les framboises, Du bon vin j’en ai bu; Les fraises et les framboises, Jamais j’en ai tant bu! _repeat ad nauseam since matt’s ex didn’t teach him any other verses_ Shibby = geek for “cool”. ---
**Author:** ![bagkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ab992/32.png) [@bagkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bagkitty)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joyeuse-st-jean-baptiste/69945/27 "2001-06-25T08:08:23Z")
I used to enjoy Fete nationale (sorry, can’t find the accents on my keyboard)… until the parade in 1985 or 1986 (can’t remember exactly which year it was). The march was to start at Parc Lafontaine, and since I lived only a few blocks away I thought I would wander over and join in… turned up just in time to encounter a bunch of pure wooly bullies giving a Haitian woman and her two kids a bad time (guess they weren’t wooly enough) – the rough translation would be that it would be fine if they watched from the sidelines, but they shouldn’t join the march – it was a Quebecois event, not for immigrants. It’s not just Jacques Parizeau talking about money and the ethnic vote, or Landry getting cranky with hispanic waiters – there is a racist streak running through a lot of Quebec nationalism, and too often it is given free reign at Fete nationale – that sea of blue and white gives me the willies… I hate institutional flag worship, reminds me of footage from Germany in the thirties and John Birch Society rallies in the states in the sixties. The theme of the march that year was “We Could Be Giants” (again, a loose translation). I went home and listened to a song from REM’s album Document. The name of the song is “King of Birds” – it has a chorus that has come to mean a lot to me… “standing on the shoulders of giants / leaves me cold / leaves me cold / a mean idea to call my own / a hundred million birds fly”. Having voted PQ when I was living in Quebec, I was glad that I moved away before the following election and wasn’t forced to make a choice come election time. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joyeuse-st-jean-baptiste/69945/28 "2001-06-25T09:36:51Z")
Well, bag, I suppose when the morning papers come in on Tuesday, we’ll find out if anything like that has happened. But I get completely different vibes in today’s Quebec. When opportunistic politicians open their yaps about how Canada is a prison or how Quebec is a zoo, the overwhelming feeling I get from everyone I know is a vast, “Whatever.” When Mercier - formerly as PQ a riding as TMR is Liberal - split its vote between a social-democrat Liberal and a social-democrat independent, I think it was a pretty good sign that a very substantial portion of the population has recognized that the majority of the debate was a false-populist smokescreen to mask more important issues. Racism is, sadly, not dead in Quebec. But when more than 70% of Quebecers - federalist or sovereignist - have ceased to care, it’s safe to say that the old ethnic strife is. Pis la vie est belle. ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joyeuse-st-jean-baptiste/69945/29 "2001-06-25T10:08:51Z")
As a _Québécois_, I apologize **bagkitty**. I know, I know, we have more than our share of room temperature IQ yahoos (of every denomination), but the saddest thing of all is, WE DID IT TO OURSELVES ! Let me explain, before 1960 all schooling was controled by the Protestant (mostly English) and Catholic (mostly French) churches (we just got rid of the last confessional school boards a few years ago). And during that time, many allophone immigrants were told by the Catholic boards that they would be better off if they went to English schools (under the rationale of preserving _la race canadienne-française_, whatever that is). And later on the Francophones complained that immigrants and Anglophones were stealing their country ! Sheesh, talk about a lose/lose proposition. [sub] I used to vote PQ too, not anymore. These jokers do not deserve to be the fathers of a new country.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joyeuse-st-jean-baptiste/69945/30 "2001-06-25T10:09:05Z")
Salut tout le monde! (and as written on my going-away tablecloth) Vive le Vancouver Libre! ---
**Author:** ![Globe-trotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cab0a1/32.png) [@Globe-trotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Globe-trotter)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joyeuse-st-jean-baptiste/69945/31 "2001-06-25T15:56:56Z")
I love babelfish, it makes my job oh-so-secure. 😃 Hope you kids had a great time yesterday! I just watched the show from Parc Maisonneuve on TV. I’m in exile, what can I say? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![bagkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ab992/32.png) [@bagkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bagkitty)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joyeuse-st-jean-baptiste/69945/32 "2001-06-25T21:27:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by detop \* > \*\*As a _Québécois_, I apologize **bagkitty**. I know, I know, we have more than our share of room temperature IQ yahoos (of every denomination), but the saddest thing of all is, > > WE DID IT TO OURSELVES ! > [sub] I used to vote PQ too, not anymore. These jokers do not deserve to be the fathers of a new country.[/sub] \*\* detop: No need to apologize - I am in no way trying to paint all of Quebec with the same brush… but the forum is MPSIMS and I just felt like posting that really sour memory. Hell, I live in Alberta now, and if it were necessary to apologize for living surrounded by Neanderthals, I would be do nothing else. Sorry if I rained on your parade. Bonne Fete. ---
**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joyeuse-st-jean-baptiste/69945/33 "2001-06-25T23:43:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by bagkitty \* > **Hell, I live in Alberta now, and if it were necessary to apologize for living surrounded by Neanderthals, I would be do nothing else.** **bagkitty** , have you been welcomed into the secret society of Beatific Albertan Dopers? [sub]\*\*I’m certainly not a Neanderthal! I’m in the _Bow_ Valley![/sub] ---
**Author:** ![bagkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ab992/32.png) [@bagkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bagkitty)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2001, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joyeuse-st-jean-baptiste/69945/34 "2001-06-26T10:06:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by GingerOfTheNorth \* > > **bagkitty** , have you been welcomed into the secret society of Beatific Albertan Dopers? > \*\* Ginger: if I was, the ceremony was a secret. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joyeuse-st-jean-baptiste/69945.md?page=1)