# jtur88 Is An Obvious Troll and Liar

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 5, 2014, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886 "2014-08-05T17:54:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/81 "2014-12-13T22:03:41Z")

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Could he possibly be a sock of **handy**?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/82 "2014-12-13T23:46:01Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Could he possibly be a sock of **handy**?

If he is, I’m impressed. He’s now an idiot over a wide range of topics.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/83 "2014-12-13T23:48:12Z")

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He’s been awfully quiet through all of this.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2014, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/84 "2014-12-14T00:54:21Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> It was in GQ when he posted. And his was the first post. But pretty much every few days he posts something completely wrong in GQ. His breadth of ignorance is astounding, and he needs to stop spreading it around this MB.  
> .

Sometimes ignorance fights back and needs beaten into submission.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2014, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/85 "2014-12-14T00:58:23Z")

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If he really claims the execution of Christian missionaries really IS a happy ending, I owe him a bottle of Jack. A small one, 'cause I think the execution of Christian anything is good. 😃

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2014, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/86 "2014-12-14T02:12:18Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> If he really claims the execution of Christian missionaries really IS a happy ending, I owe him a bottle of Jack. A small one, 'cause I think the execution of Christian anything is good. 😃

Say what?

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2014, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/87 "2014-12-14T05:16:19Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Say what?

Well, certainly not executing people like jtur88. That’s just rude. 🙂

But most of his posts are in poor taste or in a rant format without fact, like, “Grrr, kids only care about earbuds, video games, penny whistle and moonpies…” It’s definitely out there.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2014, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/88 "2014-12-14T18:31:51Z")

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[Another fucking ridiculous claim from jturd.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17976421&postcount=9)

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2014, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/89 "2014-12-14T19:27:58Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> [Another fucking ridiculous claim from jturd.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17976421&postcount=9)

Are you certain that statement is untrue? If it has ever happened, even just once, then his statement as written is true.

Just asking.  
ETA: **cochrane** , if you are certain this has _ **never, ever** _ happened ( **jtur** ’s statement in the link), then you are correct. I’m leery of statements including never, which your claim includes.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2014, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/90 "2014-12-14T19:33:07Z")

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It’s ridiculous on the face of it. I’ll change my mind if he (or anyone else) can provide a cite.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2014, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/91 "2014-12-14T19:55:55Z")

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> Are you certain that statement is untrue? If it has ever happened, even just once, then his statement as written is true.
> 
> Just asking.  
> ETA: **cochrane** , if you are certain this has _ **never, ever** _ happened ( **jtur** ’s statement in the link), then you are correct. I’m leery of statements including never, which your claim includes.

jtur88’sw statement clearly indicates a point of law:

> [@stolen cars](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stolen-cars/707172/9):
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> Depends on the state. In Illinois, a car can be listed as stolen merely if the purchaser is in arrears on a payment due, and in a routine traffic stop, the driver arrested for at least possession of a stolen car, even if registered in the driver’s name, and car impounded.

Just because some knuckle head tried at some point to report a car stolen when a payment was missed doesn’t mean jtur88 is correct.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2014, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/92 "2014-12-14T20:04:19Z")

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This would seem to indicate that once again he’s talking out his ass:

> **[Can a bank report a car stolen or have a warrant issued for your arrest if...](https://www.freeadvice.com/legal/can-a-bank-report-a-car-s-54934/)**
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> I am wondering how far a bank/collection agency can go to retrieve a car they are trying to repossess? A friend of mine recently lost his job and is fighting to receive his unemployment. He has missed several payments on his car due to his job loss...

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2014, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/93 "2014-12-14T21:32:24Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> It was in GQ when he posted. And his was the first post. But pretty much every few days he posts something completely wrong in GQ.

Most recently regarding chemistry [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17976497&postcount=11](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17976497&postcount=11)

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2014, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/94 "2014-12-15T02:13:21Z")

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**Andy L** : I just saw that and two thoughts came to me:

[ol][li]Wow! How did he graduate high school with such an outstanding lack of understanding of basic science?[/li][li]Hmmmm…I wonder if he’s ever posted anything correct.[/ol][/li]  
Given his penchant for posting amazingly incorrect stuff, I just don’t really feel the need to search out an answer to #2.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2014, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/95 "2014-12-15T02:25:10Z")

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Give him a break! They hadn’t discovered the neutron yet when he was in high school.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2014, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/96 "2014-12-15T03:29:52Z")

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When I was a kid, we had to whittle our own neutrons from spare ends of maple-wood planks. And we were damn glad to have them, too.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2014, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/97 "2014-12-15T03:58:11Z")

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I’ll bet **jtur** wears an onion on his belt.

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**Author:** ![Hector\_St\_Clare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@Hector\_St\_Clare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hector_St_Clare)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2014, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/98 "2014-12-15T04:02:45Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Note to self. Check on Dominican Republic vacations rentals.

Better yet, look into retiring there, apparently.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2014, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/99 "2014-12-15T05:56:15Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> I’ll bet **jtur** wears an onion on his belt.

I bet he couldn’t wear those white onions, either, on account on the war. Only those big yellow ones.

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**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2014, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/100 "2014-12-15T09:50:57Z")

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**jtur88** got a [warning](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17975006&postcount=8) the other day for threadshitting in a thread about adjustable eyeglass lenses. He announces, apropos of nothing, that people who refuse to wear lined bifocals are a bunch of spoiled crybabies.

I fully endorse this pitting. I’ve seeing more and more of this phenomenon on other online forums–old retired farts, always male, whiling away their days being assholes on message boards. When called out on their crap, they defend themselves with phrases like “taking no bullshit” and “telling like it is.” This behavior must be swiftly eradicated whenever and wherever it appears.

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