# jtur88 Is An Obvious Troll and Liar

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 5, 2014, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886 "2014-08-05T17:54:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2014, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/101 "2014-12-15T10:08:18Z")

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Yeah that was a jerkish thing to say. He sounds like a bitter old fart with nothing better to do than shit on others.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2014, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/102 "2014-12-15T16:41:59Z")

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> [@erysichthon](#):
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> **jtur88** got a [warning](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17975006&postcount=8) the other day for threadshitting in a thread about adjustable eyeglass lenses. He announces, apropos of nothing, that people who refuse to wear lined bifocals are a bunch of spoiled crybabies.

People have gotten “unstoic”? This guy is quite the piece of work.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/103 "2014-12-16T18:45:28Z")

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When pressed for a cite, **jtur** sez, “I don’t need no steenkin’ cite!”

> [@stolen cars](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stolen-cars/707172/14):
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> It requires that the financier of the car send written notice to he borrower to return the car for repossession, if in default, and can be reported stolen after ten days if unresponsive.
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> This is the opinion forum. No cites.
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> Regards.

What a useless piece of shit.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2014, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/104 "2014-12-21T17:04:12Z")

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Latest words of wisdom from [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=744137) in GQ. Post #8:

> [@jtur88](#):
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> I lived in Louisiana and Alabama in the 50s and California in the early 60s, and yes, there was a huge difference. I can’t recall a single instance in California in which I felt that Blacks were discriminated against, or in any way impeded from participation in social or economic activities.

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**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/105 "2014-12-22T00:56:31Z")

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He also put on a bravura performance in **Northern Piper** ’s thread about parliamentary party leaders who defect to the Opposition. He roamed confidently over the equilateral triangle bounded by Pedantic, Irrelevant, and Insanely Fucking Stupid, and managed to hit some combinations of each never previously seen. I’m not going to link to it. I can’t. It’s too painful.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/106 "2014-12-22T01:15:14Z")

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His legal opinions are virtually guaranteed to be wrong. It wouldn’t be a bad rule of thumb to assume that the opposite of whatever he says is true.

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**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/107 "2014-12-22T04:04:15Z")

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> He’s been awfully quiet through all of this.

Well, if one is pitted directly, wouldn’t the smart move be to ignore it?

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/108 "2014-12-22T07:38:52Z")

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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> Well, if one is pitted directly, wouldn’t the smart move be to ignore it?

Maybe. I’m not very familiar with Pit Protocol, but I was thinking he might try refuting some of the accusations.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/109 "2014-12-22T08:09:30Z")

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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> Well, if one is pitted directly, wouldn’t the smart move be to ignore it?

Not really, because it means you’re out there saying all these things and are oblivious to how people are reacting to you.

Sure, if it’s petty, don’t dignify it with a response. But you do good to check in every once in a while.

I think **jtur88** is completely oblivious to the idea that people think he’s always wrong.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/110 "2014-12-22T15:24:18Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I think **jtur88** is completely oblivious to the idea that people think he’s always wrong.

I think he’s completely oblivious to the idea of _idea_, or at least of _thought_.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/111 "2014-12-22T19:07:44Z")

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I think he’s just oblivious. Period.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/112 "2014-12-24T20:39:31Z")

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More dumb comments in [this GQ thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=744434)

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/113 "2014-12-24T20:46:55Z")

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There’s also this gem from **jtur88** in **Skald’s** flat tire thread in IMHO.

> [@](#):
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> Cars don’t have flats and spare tires anymore, they have run-flat tires. They are designed to be driven to the nail salon and soccer practice on smooth roads in fine weather by people who have a cell phone and roadside service. Anything besides that is considered to be “off-road” use, requiring stunt driving skills and special back-country equipment, like a spare tire bolted to the roof (there is no well) and a jack.

It’s like **Skald** says there, does **jtur88** have some daily quota of dead-ass wrong things to say?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/114 "2014-12-24T20:51:27Z")

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> [@Kimballkid](#):
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> There’s also this gem from **jtur88** in **Skald’s** flat tire thread in IMHO.
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> It’s like **Skald** says there, does **jtur88** have some daily quota of dead-ass wrong things to say?

Yeah sure seems like it! In the “dumb” thread, he doubles down on the stupid, too.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/115 "2014-12-24T21:30:47Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> More dumb comments in [this GQ thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=744434)

**jtur** in a “playing smart” thread? C’mon, man. There’s only so big a target you can paint on yourself!

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/116 "2014-12-24T22:41:35Z")

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> [@Kimballkid](#):
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> There’s also this gem from **jtur88** in **Skald’s** flat tire thread in IMHO.

That’s really reaching on his part. Reaching down to the depths of not only stupidity, but also nonsense.

> [@](#):
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> It’s like **Skald** says there, does **jtur88** have some daily quota of dead-ass wrong things to say?

Nah, I’d have to go with he has a rate, not quota. In his case, the rate is 100%. Seriously, has he ever posted anything correct?

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**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2014, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/117 "2014-12-24T23:51:02Z")

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More [nonsense](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18002978#post18002978) in the thread about state boundaries. I honestly don’t understand this behavior. He’s been repeatedly shown that he doesn’t know the first thing about the law, yet he continues to post definitive statements as if he knows what he’s talking about.

And state boundary law is one of those convoluted, highly fact-specific areas of law, so making definitive statements about it is even more bizarre.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2014, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/118 "2014-12-25T00:04:24Z")

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> [@BrightNShiny](#):
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> **He’s been repeatedly shown that he doesn’t know the first thing about the law** , yet he continues to post definitive statements as if he knows what he’s talking about.

He’s been shown he doesn’t know anything about everything.

He’s the Bizarro world Renaissance Man.

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**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2014, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-is-an-obvious-troll-and-liar/694886/119 "2014-12-25T06:36:44Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> More dumb comments in [this GQ thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=744434)

Shit, I started to suggest jtur88ing in response to the OP in that thread, then I remembered it wasn’t in the Pit.

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