# Juan Williams Fired from NPR

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juan-williams-fired-from-npr/557992>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 22, 2010, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juan-williams-fired-from-npr/557992 "2010-10-22T12:00:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juan-williams-fired-from-npr/557992/101 "2010-10-26T19:47:02Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Now, granted, his statement was coming from a place of prejudice, by definition. But how can we have an open and honest discussion about these sorts of things and be able to change these prejudices without admitting that we have them, they’re irrational, and they need to be addressed?

Wait, wait, I keep hearing about the need to amplify our war against Islam, and how us libruhls are blind to the threat it poses.  
What you’re saying is that whenever someone expresses nervousness about the enemy, it’s because they’re seeking to engage in an open an honest discussion?  
If find that _implausible_.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juan-williams-fired-from-npr/557992/102 "2010-10-26T20:13:30Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> Wait, wait, I keep hearing about the need to amplify our war against Islam, and how us libruhls are blind to the threat it poses.  
> What you’re saying is that whenever someone expresses nervousness about the enemy, it’s because they’re seeking to engage in an open an honest discussion?  
> If find that _implausible_.

I apologize, but I’m not quite understanding the point. Yes, I think Juan Williams _was_ trying to engage the audience and Bill O’Reilly on the level. Did you listen to the whole interview? He was basically attacking Bill O’Reilly for conflating Islam with terrorism by using a Timothy McVeigh-Christianity analogy.

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**Author:** ![Robb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Robb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robb)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juan-williams-fired-from-npr/557992/103 "2010-10-27T17:07:50Z")

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What are the odds that Williams thought he could get a well-paying gig at Fox and decided this would be a nice way to get free advertising?

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juan-williams-fired-from-npr/557992/104 "2010-10-27T18:41:53Z")

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From the other side, what are the chances Fox (or someone on that side) actually _paid_ Juan to “throw” the interview, to foster mistrust of NPR around election time?

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juan-williams-fired-from-npr/557992/105 "2010-10-27T20:36:58Z")

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> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#):
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> From the other side, what are the chances Fox (or someone on that side) actually _paid_ Juan to “throw” the interview, to foster mistrust of NPR around election time?

Given that this guy has a history of making statements that were ill-advised given his chosen profession and employer, I find that doubtful.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juan-williams-fired-from-npr/557992/106 "2010-10-27T21:35:54Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> Juan Williams will be a guest on Diane Rehm this morning.

Jesus. Wasn’t being fired punishment enough?

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juan-williams-fired-from-npr/557992/107 "2010-10-27T23:37:04Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Jesus. Wasn’t being fired punishment enough?

You take that back! Diane Rehm is a goddess! A somewhat gravelly-voiced goddess, BUT A GODDESS NONETHELESS!

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juan-williams-fired-from-npr/557992/108 "2010-10-28T13:39:11Z")

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Granted, she does compel me to avert my ears…

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juan-williams-fired-from-npr/557992/109 "2010-10-28T16:16:02Z")

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You think maybe he’s angling to replace Alan Colmes on a new incarnation of _Hannity and His Bitch?_

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juan-williams-fired-from-npr/557992/110 "2010-10-28T17:01:25Z")

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I don’t think Williams would be a good fit for that show. He doesn’t seem like the type to roll over like [sub]Colmes[/sub] did.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juan-williams-fired-from-npr/557992/111 "2010-10-28T18:26:20Z")

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I only saw him on it a couple of time, cause I hate Hannity worse than gonorrhea, but it didn’t seem to me like he rolled over, just nobody paid him any attention, he’d point out where the bullshit was, and Hannity just kept on rolling like he didn’t say anything.

Frankly, I think he was just there because he so fits the stereotype of the pencil-neck liberal wonk to contrast with Hannity robust, virile, all-American bullet headed Saxon mother’s son schtick.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juan-williams-fired-from-npr/557992/112 "2010-10-29T00:47:50Z")

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Is it wrong to imagine a scenario where a neck of Hannity’s dimensions might be seen as a real drawback, _vis-à-vis_ strokes of _la guillotine_?

Just asking… purely hypothetical, a thought experiment…

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juan-williams-fired-from-npr/557992/113 "2010-10-29T16:37:34Z")

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No, because then the alternative is to turn the dogs on him.

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