# Judas Was a Homo

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judas-was-a-homo/621749>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 13, 2012, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judas-was-a-homo/621749 "2012-05-13T03:33:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judas-was-a-homo/621749/1 "2012-05-13T03:33:01Z")

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If you don’t believe me, smart guy, just listen to this combination scientist, doctor, historian, and Biblical scholar:

[http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/05/great\_moment\_in\_city\_council\_crazy.php?ref=fpblg](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/05/great_moment_in_city_council_crazy.php?ref=fpblg)

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judas-was-a-homo/621749/2 "2012-05-13T05:34:54Z")

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Godfrey Daniels! I only watched a few seconds of this video, but what in tarnation has she been smoking? The crazy is strong with this one.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judas-was-a-homo/621749/3 "2012-05-13T12:30:21Z")

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She is [mentally incompetent](http://journalstar.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/82ec7104-4062-5988-8e56-8effde1ff202.html).  
“Svoboda lives at an assisted-living facility in Lincoln and is listed as a protected person, according to court documents. Her brother, Patrick Svoboda of Ogallala, is her conservator because she is incompetent, the documents say.”

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judas-was-a-homo/621749/4 "2012-05-13T13:41:48Z")

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We call them Gay Israelites now a days.

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**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judas-was-a-homo/621749/5 "2012-05-13T14:15:07Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> She is [mentally incompetent](http://journalstar.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/82ec7104-4062-5988-8e56-8effde1ff202.html).  
> “Svoboda lives at an assisted-living facility in Lincoln and is listed as a protected person, according to court documents. Her brother, Patrick Svoboda of Ogallala, is her conservator because she is incompetent, the documents say.”

What kind of guardian or conservator lets someone mentally incompetent stand up in an open forum and rant crazy talk like that? Even if they agree with her POV, surely they realize that particular presentation is leaving her wide open for mockery.

Stupid asshole brother.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judas-was-a-homo/621749/6 "2012-05-13T14:22:12Z")

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Yeah, her brother’s attitude is kinda stupid. She’s a “registered lobbyist” and is allowed to go around being completely fucking mental in public, but shame on all of us for laughing at her. :rolleyes:

No, sorry Patrick. You’re almost as crazy as she is if you think it is appropriate to allow her to do these things (and then blame everyone else for their reactions to it).

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judas-was-a-homo/621749/7 "2012-05-13T16:03:10Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Yeah, her brother’s attitude is kinda stupid. She’s a “registered lobbyist” and is allowed to go around being completely fucking mental in public, but shame on all of us for laughing at her. :rolleyes:
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> No, sorry Patrick. You’re almost as crazy as she is if you think it is appropriate to allow her to do these things (and then blame everyone else for their reactions to it).

Exactly.

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**Author:** ![BobArrgh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobarrgh/32/2881_2.png) [@BobArrgh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobArrgh)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judas-was-a-homo/621749/8 "2012-05-13T16:27:31Z")

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I’m not sure if conservators have the legal authority to prevent someone from doing something that isn’t illegal or physically harmful.

In the 1980s, I worked for a probate law firm and we were the conservators for several people. As conservators, we paid their bills. If the person wanted or needed something that was outside their usual bills and monthly allowance, then we had to petition the court for permission to give them the money for the purchase.

For example, we had one client who wanted to buy a TV for his room. It was more than his monthly allowance, so we had to petition the court for permission to buy him a TV. Once permission was granted, we purchased a TV for him.

In general, as conservators, we were not allowed to control the person’s behavior, beyond identifying anything that was potentially and petitioning the court for assistance.

So, just because a person might be a certifiable nutjob, his or her conservator does not have any legal authority to prevent that person from spouting anything on the Internet, unless one can show conclusively that such behavior is dangerous to the individual. Good luck with that.

I’m not sure the outrage expressed against the lady’s brother is justified. He may be doing everything the law allows him to do.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judas-was-a-homo/621749/9 "2012-05-13T18:15:48Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> No, sorry Patrick. You’re almost as crazy as she is if you think it is appropriate to allow her to do these things (and then blame everyone else for their reactions to it).

How are we supposed to know she’s crazy? I’ll bet she would have been interrupted for applause a dozen times if she had delivered that rant to some of the groups that Santorum and Bachmann pander to.

But I am disappointed in TPM for not looking into it before they posted the video. They’re supposed to be a cut above Drudge.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judas-was-a-homo/621749/10 "2012-05-13T19:29:44Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Yeah, her brother’s attitude is kinda stupid. She’s a “registered lobbyist” and is allowed to go around being completely fucking mental in public, but shame on all of us for laughing at her. :rolleyes:
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> No, sorry Patrick. You’re almost as crazy as she is if you think it is appropriate to allow her to do these things (and then blame everyone else for their reactions to it).

What’s he supposed to do? Keep her chained up in the attic? This isn’t the 19th century. Most people don’t even \*have \*attics anymore.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judas-was-a-homo/621749/11 "2012-05-13T20:07:11Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> What’s he supposed to do? Keep her chained up in the attic? This isn’t the 19th century. Most people don’t even \*have \*attics anymore.

It’s more what he’s supposed not to do, namely acting like it’s some moral failing on our part that we didn’t realize she has officially been declared mentally incompetent, as opposed to the unaccredited nutjobs who frequent talk radio and Fox News.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judas-was-a-homo/621749/12 "2012-05-13T21:56:53Z")

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Exactly.

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**Author:** ![Chimi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/73ab20/32.png) [@Chimi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimi)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judas-was-a-homo/621749/13 "2012-05-14T00:11:21Z")

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Chrisma Woman, or Crazy Blue Protesting Lady, as she’s called. Ah, I remember when I first found one of her pages taped to a light-pole…

[Here](http://crazyblueprotestinglady.blogspot.com/) is one of the best collections of her work.

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judas-was-a-homo/621749/14 "2012-05-14T01:42:21Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> It’s more what he’s supposed not to do, namely acting like it’s some moral failing on our part that we didn’t realize she has officially been declared mentally incompetent, as opposed to the unaccredited nutjobs who frequent talk radio and Fox News.

Frankly, I blame the unaccredited nutjobs for making a paranoid schizophrenic sound practically mainstream conservative. She’s kind of a live and in person example of Poe’s Law. Is she crazy or is she actually, you know, CRAZY? Fortunately, we now have the documentation proving she’s not just a clever parody.

I feel like someone should put up Heartland-style billboards saying “This woman makes public anti-gay rants. She’s schizophrenic. What’s O’Reilly’s excuse?” and fill in names of various other anti-gay commentators.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judas-was-a-homo/621749/15 "2012-05-14T02:12:44Z")

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" Svoboda of Ogallala"

his vorpal sword went snicker-snack!

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**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judas-was-a-homo/621749/16 "2012-05-14T03:46:39Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Yeah, her brother’s attitude is kinda stupid. She’s a “registered lobbyist” and is allowed to go around being completely fucking mental in public, but shame on all of us for laughing at her. :rolleyes:
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> No, sorry Patrick. You’re almost as crazy as she is if you think it is appropriate to allow her to do these things (and then blame everyone else for their reactions to it).

Agreed. Unless the council invites her regularly for their own entertainment.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judas-was-a-homo/621749/17 "2012-05-14T04:07:47Z")

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This thread actually reassures me. I saw a bit of this clip on some political show with no context at all, and I thought she was an elected Republican official of a particularly crazy branch of the party.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judas-was-a-homo/621749/18 "2012-05-14T12:10:20Z")

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> [@Jenaroph](#):
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> She’s kind of a live and in person example of Poe’s Law. Is she crazy or is she actually, you know, CRAZY?

I’ve thought that too. Perhaps the real life examples of this should be called “Loughner’s Law”?
