Judge clears 'Stairway to Heaven' copyright case for trial

Those are both different points than the one I was addressing.

Right. That’s why I said if they wanted to make it an issue. They obviously didn’t and don’t.

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Jimmy Page on how Stairway to Heaven was written (BBC). Published on Oct 10, 2014.

You had another point?

I believe it was a pretty clear and simple point. Is it not?

That riff may be in the public domain.
http://wmgk.com/2016/04/19/stairway-to-heaven-lawsuit/

There are clips at the link.

Huh. Not quite exactly the same chromatic bass (similar, though), but surprisingly reminiscent melody line. Melodically, I find this closer to Stairway than Taurus. This one at least has some of the same melodic movement while Taurus’s take is just simple static broken chords.

But, shocker! You look hard enough, and you’ll find a similar song by someone else somewhere in music history. And pretty much where I thought you’d find it: Renaissance or Baroque music, as I mentioned upthread.

And it looks not to be exactly a new revelation, either. I just found this Youtube clip from 2011 pointing it out.

Plus, there’s also this Davey Graham song from 1959 to compare with Taurus and Stairway.

And (sorry for four-in-a-row), it’s worth noting that Jimmy Page was a Davey Graham fan and influenced by him, so Stairway could likely have been inspired by both of those sources.

Actually, Morris Albert was successfully sued in the early 80s by French songwriter Loulou Gaste, who claimed that “Feelings” infringed on the melody of his 1957 song “Pour Toi.”

(Feelings (Morris Albert song) - Wikipedia)

Trial underway, so reviving this thread.

Apparently Jimmy indicated he NEVER heard the song, but has the album in his record collection. Probably had to be absolute about it due to legal advice, but seems sketchy.

On another note:

Hilarious.

Rolling Stone’s breathless coverage of the trial.

The article I read said he had 5 Spirit albums in a 4,000 vinyl album collection. I doubt anyone can definitively say he even owned the album before Stairway to Heaven. The presence of the album in his extensive collection can be easily countered by any competent defense attorney.

Yet he knew the song “Fresh Garbage,” from the same album, well enough that Zeppelin used to play it onstage in 1969.

They toured with Spirit. “Taurus” was played. They were huge fans of west coast rock. “Never heard it” is ridiculous.

Odd perspective. In my mind, Zeppelin didnt spill over into the 70’s, they owned the 70’s.

Perhaps you’re confusing them with The Doors? :wink:

Music owned NOTHING in the 70’s, so your statement is invalid. Led did what they could given the hand they were dealt but ownership, not even close, however more traction in the 80’s.

Exhibit A for the proposition that Jimmy Page is full of shit :).

Ah, c’mon! You wouldn’t argue that Zep is one of the biggest 70’s bands? I took “owned” as a bit of fine Rock hyperbole :wink:

Page is in it to win it, so assume he is following a specific legal strategy. Interesting to see where this goes.