# Judge Crater "Found!" Sort Of!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-crater-found-sort-of/317734>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 19, 2005, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-crater-found-sort-of/317734 "2005-08-19T13:14:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2005, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-crater-found-sort-of/317734/21 "2005-08-19T20:08:11Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> Funny, what with Judge Crater having been mentioned offhand in at least one thread this week . . .

I summoned him!

Now, let’s see if it works for Glen and Bessie Hyde…

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2005, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-crater-found-sort-of/317734/22 "2005-08-19T20:28:54Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> Not according to [Dot King](http://www.lawlessdecade.net/new1923-5.html), the Natalee Holloway of 1923!

Why thank you, **Eve**! No really, I had nothing better to do with the next 15 hours of my life as I go through every link on that site!

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2005, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-crater-found-sort-of/317734/23 "2005-08-19T20:38:10Z")

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> [@Genghis Bob](#):
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> There was a deathbed confession from the supposed trigger-man: a union member/enforcer who was friendly with Hoffa but claimed the mob had forced him to do it. There were blood stains found in the house, but they were so old that nothing could be determined from them. Not terribly conclusive, but then what reason would the fellow have to lie?

There was also a “confession” from a prisoner serving a life sentence at a federal prison in Missouri, and a few others I can’t recall the details of.

I think more people killed Jimmy Hoffa than JFK.

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**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2005, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-crater-found-sort-of/317734/24 "2005-08-19T20:46:18Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> I think more people killed Jimmy Hoffa than JFK.

Impossible. I can prove JFK acted alone.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2005, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-crater-found-sort-of/317734/25 "2005-08-19T21:22:06Z")

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> [@The King of Soup](#):
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> Impossible. I can prove JFK acted alone.

JFK was the second spitter.

Sorry about the brainfart above. But why haven’t I ever heard of this story before? I lived for this kinda ting in my formative years and have never stopped craving it.  
Why why why?  
Carry on with your conspiracy theories.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2005, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-crater-found-sort-of/317734/26 "2005-08-20T03:07:28Z")

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> I can see someone about to die who’d never accomplished anything particularly noteworthy doing that right at the end, especially since he’ll be safe from any legal repurcussions, what with being dead and all.

Absolutely. I plan on confessing to the Zodiac killings on my deathbed.

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2005, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-crater-found-sort-of/317734/27 "2005-08-20T06:39:25Z")

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Well, at least it seems easy enough to prove or disprove. I mean, how many corpses could possibly be secretly buried under the boardwalk at Coney Island?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2005, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-crater-found-sort-of/317734/28 "2005-08-20T06:46:19Z")

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I take it you’re not from the area?

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2005, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-crater-found-sort-of/317734/29 "2005-08-20T09:33:12Z")

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Sorry, forgot to include the " 😉 "

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**Author:** ![ltfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@ltfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ltfire)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2005, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-crater-found-sort-of/317734/30 "2005-08-20T20:41:02Z")

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Eh…I’m still waiting for Big Pussy Bompensiero to surface.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2005, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-crater-found-sort-of/317734/31 "2005-08-20T21:05:22Z")

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> [@Ranchoth](#):
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> how many corpses could possibly be secretly buried under the boardwalk at Coney Island?

Under the boardwalk, we’ll be havin’ some fun… Boardwalk!

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-crater-found-sort-of/317734/32 "2005-08-21T09:18:45Z")

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> [@Ranchoth](#):
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> Well, at least it seems easy enough to prove or disprove. I mean, how many corpses could possibly be secretly buried under the boardwalk at Coney Island?

Correct me if I am wrong, but under a boardwalk…isn’t that usually sand and ocean tides? Haven’t there been a few hurricanes and stuff since then? If the body, or bodies, haven’t been washed out to sea, just how far did they dig those graves?

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-crater-found-sort-of/317734/33 "2005-08-21T09:57:57Z")

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> [@DMark](#):
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> Correct me if I am wrong, but under a boardwalk…isn’t that usually sand and ocean tides? Haven’t there been a few hurricanes and stuff since then? If the body, or bodies, haven’t been washed out to sea, just how far did they dig those graves?

Hm. I’m thinking the crabs got a free raw bar for a few days and the rest blended in with the natural débris of the region.

If there are feral dogs, things can go more quickly.

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-crater-found-sort-of/317734/34 "2005-08-21T13:17:31Z")

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> [@DMark](#):
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> Correct me if I am wrong, but under a boardwalk…isn’t that usually sand and ocean tides? Haven’t there been a few hurricanes and stuff since then? If the body, or bodies, haven’t been washed out to sea, just how far did they dig those graves?

According to the cops, they found four or five skeletons under the B’walk right there while they were building the aquarium in the 1950s, and they are now testing them (I don’t know how!) to see if one might be the Judge.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-crater-found-sort-of/317734/35 "2005-08-21T15:44:02Z")

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Yesterday’s _New York Daily News_ tried to tie the Crater case into the 1941 Kid Twist death…Abe Reles was a Murder Inc. gunman who turned stoolie, and was pushed (OK, “fell”) out the 6th floor window of a Coney Island hotel just before he was to testify at the trials of Albert Anastasia and Louis Buchalter.

The tabs dubbed him “The Canary Who Couldn’t Fly.”

Hee hee.

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**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-crater-found-sort-of/317734/36 "2005-08-23T10:06:49Z")

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Actually, defenestration brings up a whole new field for speculation: push \*any/I] magistrate, no matter his stature, out a high-enough window and I should think you’d end up with a pretty fair “Judge Crater.”

By your leave, I’d like to send this thread off on a little tangent. What would _you_ like to confess on your deathbed? I think I’ll leave a note taking responsibility for:

–Prompting OPEC Oil Embargo (1973);

–Sinking the _Edmund Fitzgerald_ (1975);

–Putting Hole in Ozone Layer (1985);

–Causing German Reunification (1990);

–Releasing Album “Oh Yeah” by KC & The Sunshine Band (1993);

–Creating El Nino (1997-8);

–Mauling Roy Horn onstage in Vegas (2003).

What about you guys?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-crater-found-sort-of/317734/37 "2005-08-23T16:44:39Z")

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Well I’ve already got dibs on the Zodiac killings, but if we’re competing now, I’m also the real culprit behind the Green River killings. And I assassinated Lin Biao and Olaf Palme. And shot Mr Burns.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-crater-found-sort-of/317734/38 "2005-08-23T16:50:44Z")

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Well, if you must know – who let the dogs out?

That was me.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-crater-found-sort-of/317734/39 "2005-08-23T16:54:03Z")

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I was the gunman on the grassy knoll. Well, the guntoddler, actually.

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**Author:** ![ltfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@ltfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ltfire)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-crater-found-sort-of/317734/40 "2005-08-23T20:14:08Z")

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Natalee Holloway is tied to my bed, as we speak.  
I just fed her tuna fish. She is cold. I will cover her now, and she will sleep deeper than before. :eek:

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