# Judge John Roberts: Partisan Hack

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-john-roberts-partisan-hack/313265>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 20, 2005, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-john-roberts-partisan-hack/313265 "2005-07-20T08:37:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-john-roberts-partisan-hack/313265/181 "2005-07-21T05:08:23Z")

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> [@Zoe](#):
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> I hope that my opinion will not keep me from being placed on the “partisan hack” list. Are their membership dues?

There _could_ be. How do you feel about giving me your bank account number?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-john-roberts-partisan-hack/313265/182 "2005-07-21T05:42:01Z")

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I went strolling about the blogoswamp quite a bit last night and this evening, poking around at tighty righty sites (NRO, Red State, Little Green Footballs etc.)and the general consensus to this eye is “masturbatin’ like a motherfuck”.

If there is disgruntlement, and there is, it seems to center around the stealthy approach. They don’t want to arm wrestle, they damned sure don’t want to negotiate, they want to ram it down the left’s throat, they want the Bushiviks trumpeting a reactionary calvary charge, they want blood, and gore and veins in their teeth.

Michelle Malkin could just eat him all up.

“We trust that, in light of Judge Roberts’ rock-solid credentials,” Dobson said…(quote mercifully truncated).

And so on and so forth. They are perfectly happy with his Federalist Club credentials, though they might prefer that he was more involved in the paramilitary wing…

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-john-roberts-partisan-hack/313265/183 "2005-07-21T07:47:25Z")

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> [@Zoe](#):
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> I expected the President to appoint a Conservative, not a moderate. I’m keeping an open mind on this nomination.

This is one of the reasons I admire you so much. More than anyone I know here (and certainly more than I), you truly try to keep an open mind and strive to live according to your own beliefs and philosophy.

Tres cool, Teach. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-john-roberts-partisan-hack/313265/184 "2005-07-21T10:23:26Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> Do we need another white anglo-saxon male on the Supreme Court?

Unless you yourself are a white Anglo-Saxon male, your remark is racist and sexist.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-john-roberts-partisan-hack/313265/185 "2005-07-21T10:42:45Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> You know, around the election I’d actually thought you’d pulled your head out of your ass.
> 
> Ah well.
> 
> Let’s see…
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> [Deaf Oxycontin Addict](http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.guest.html).
> 
> Let’s see…for those who don’t want that trash showing up in their cache…
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> #1 - Vice President Cheney: Judge Roberts Understands Court’s Role  
> #2 - Reality Sets In for Democrats: President George W. Bush Is In Charge (next to picture of Bush standing next to Roberts)  
> #3 - Rush’s Supreme Court Stack of Stuff: Battle for the Judiciary Argue with libs over the president’s nomination and the battle to save the Constitution from activist judges
> 
> So, let’s see, A-number-one reacharound king Rush Limbaugh doesn’t seem to have a problem.
> 
> Who is next?
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> [The man who equates liberals with communists and terrorsts](http://www.hannity.com/index/news-app/story.184/menu./sec./home.).
> 
> Certainly not a glowing endorsement here, but I think the comment “The answer, it appears, is far enough to please his hard-line conservative base, but not much farther.” doesn’t sound like bitching about a “sellout pick”.
> 
> [Up and coming psycho hosebeast who, upon looking at her page for the first time I realize is pretty hot](http://www.lauraingraham.com/public/). I suppose this paragraph is what you think is them being pissed off:
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> PRESIDENT BUSH–A MAN OF HIS WORD: All we can say is: thank you, Mr. President. Judge John Roberts is a superb choice for the Supreme Court. President Bush did not play p.c. politics with his selection. He did not cave to those who hopedfor the first Hispanic justice (La Raza, et al.), or a woman (his wife!), or a “consensus nominee” (the Dems), or a “balancer” from “outside the federal courts of appeals” (Specter). Instead, President Bush picked someone who is a reliable judicial conservative–not a blank slate a la David Souter or someone who will “evolve” like Anthony Kennedy. Well done!
> 
> Ooh! She sounds mad. I hope Dubya can handle such unpleasantness. She’s pretty rough on him.
> 
> Man, this is pretty difficult. Well, let’s hit the Ultimate Psycho Cunt’s home page and see what we see.
> 
> [Lovely Ann](http://www.anncoulter.org/cgi-local/welcome.cgi) (actually, I find the horseface repulsive, but her legs are decent - but I’m not a leg man) isn’t happy, but it doesn’t look like she’s pissed either.
> 
> She uses phrases like “Tabula rasa” and “But unfortunately, other than that, we don’t know much about John Roberts”. Her complaint is that, so far, anyone who has been a complete unknown hasn’t turned out as a HappyGoodTime for the Right.
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> Then again, Mrs. Ed has always been more about attacking Libruls first and everything else second.
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> So? Where’s all that evidence of a sellout pick?
> 
> -Joe

I did pull my head out of my ass. You see, you asserted that he was getting universal praise and accolades (unless I misunderstood what “Oh, and the Right Wingers Radiobitches won’t trash Roberts. Instead they’ll give him a nice reach around - but Roberts won’t matter.” meant), and it turns out that it’s not the case, and you dismiss it with hand-waving. You provided the evidence with your very cites.

So, what were we saying about heads being up asses? You think that the conservative pundits are in lockstep about this, and they are surely not but it doesn’t suit you to believe that. It suits you to think that everybody loves this guy so that you can insult the mindless conservatives across the country, and it just ain’t so.

I think this guy is a good pick, but not because Rush said so. Rather, it’s because he sounds like me: he may not believe in something, but he knows that the alternative is worse and is not going to attempt to change it.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-john-roberts-partisan-hack/313265/186 "2005-07-21T11:50:56Z")

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> [@Airman Doors](#):
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> I did pull my head out of my ass. You see, you asserted that he was getting universal praise and accolades (unless I misunderstood what “Oh, and the Right Wingers Radiobitches won’t trash Roberts. Instead they’ll give him a nice reach around - but Roberts won’t matter.” meant), and it turns out that it’s not the case, and you dismiss it with hand-waving. You provided the evidence with your very cites.

Unless of course I “meant” that the Right Wingers Radiobitches meant, oh, I don’t know, them as a group.

Everyone knows to say neither “never” or “always” because are always exceptions. Still, not a whole lot of hate in those quotes, and not even one person referring to him as a compromise candidate.

If you’d like to split hairs, I don’t think that 'ol Horseface is even a radio “personality”. I just included her so I could be fair and balanced.

For anyone interested, the reason I chose the Bags O’ Hate I did is when I’m really unfortunate and I’m on a long drive with the boss (not Springsteen, sadly) I get to hear, in order, Ingraham, Limbaugh, and Hannity.

-Joe, funbag

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**Author:** ![PinkMarabou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@PinkMarabou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PinkMarabou)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-john-roberts-partisan-hack/313265/187 "2005-07-21T12:04:39Z")

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> [@Mr. Moto](#):
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> A few posters have remarked about Bush’s smirking during the speech.
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> It turns out, now, that this was because the four-year-old Roberts boy broke loose and was horsing around.
> 
> As the father of toddlers, I can indeed sympathize.
> 
> [Pics.](http://gopvixen.blogs.com/gop_vixen/2005/07/why_bush_smirke.html)

They did a spoofe on this on the Daily Show . . . good stuff! They superimposed that boy in the debates, a SOTU address, really funny.

But I did comment on his facial tic rather than his expression. Looks like Georgie hasn’t gotten off the Snow Train just yet. Too bad they can’t run an HONEST drug test on him right now. He showed classic symtoms of being on speed: coke-jaw and dialated pupils (I didn’t notice this second one until I saw clips of it last night).  
I just hope this new guy works out. So far I have skeptical optimism. I’m not very happy about his family’s involvement in the pro-life cause and I certainly hope he sticks to his word about not overturning pro-choice. We’ll see though, I’m not going to jump on the badwagon just yet and discredit him because he’s a republican. There are lots of good republicans out there and he seems to have a little more respect for the other side of the aisle which is sorely lacking in this administration.

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**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-john-roberts-partisan-hack/313265/188 "2005-07-21T12:25:48Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> I had not read it, but was aware of most of the information. And if **John Corrado** is holding up the guy who wrote _Dred Scott_, and Earl Warren as sucessful examples of inexperienced justices, then I have severly misunderstood his conservatism.

Fuck you, you gangrenous ballsack.

You’re going to throw out a fucking insult to me about my conservatism _without even fucking reading the post you’re insulting me about_?

You shit-swilling, piss-swimming, goat-licking piece of turd. Read my fucking post, and see who I was “holding up as an example”. Read it, you slime-coated syphillitic moron. What’s the answer? Is it “none”? Maybe? Maybe Corrado was just putting together a complete list of how many Supreme Court Chief Justices had judicial experience, and came up with the answer “3 out of 18”?

No, no, let’s not read the post. That involves thinking, and thinking is hard. Let’s just toss out a gratuitous insult, impuning Corrado for motives we’ll ascribe to him regardless of what _I actually fucking said_.

Idiot.

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> There is precedent, but would you say it’s good precedent? You happy with Warren? Taney?

Jay?  
Ellsworth?  
Marshall?  
Chase?  
Waite?  
Fuller?  
White?  
Hughes?  
Stone?  
Rehnquist?

Unless you’re willing to describe Warren Burger, William Howard Taft, and Frederick Vinson as the only Supreme Court Justices with any merit whatsoever, then you’re blowing smoke out your ass.

No, wait! Let me turn the tables!

If **Hamlet** is therefore saying that the only Chief Justice with any merit whatsoever was Frederick Vinson, then I have seriously misunderstood his understanding of legal practices and precedent.

Whoo! Eat it, shit bag!

> [@](#):
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> And God forbid Bush pick a moderate with some judicial experience. Someone who would pass the Senate with support of both parties.

Okay, asswipe- gimme a list. Go ahead. You have a perfect person in mind, spit it the fuck out. If instead you’re saying, “Well, surely _someone_ like that exists,” then suck on frozen sewage and tell me it’s a popsicle.

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-john-roberts-partisan-hack/313265/189 "2005-07-21T14:16:20Z")

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Hey, I didn’t get my copy of the form letter that complains about whomever Bush nominated. They were supposed to be here weeks ago and all I had to was write in the nominee’s name in the “insert nominee’s name here” spot and mail them to all my congressman.

If anybody has their’s on computer please Email me a copy so I can send them out. I’m falling behind in my meaningful political activism.

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**Author:** ![Twin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/85f322/32.png) [@Twin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Twin)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-john-roberts-partisan-hack/313265/190 "2005-07-21T14:45:09Z")

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> [@cosmosdan](#):
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> Hey, I didn’t get my copy of the form letter that complains about whomever Bush nominated. They were supposed to be here weeks ago and all I had to was write in the nominee’s name in the “insert nominee’s name here” spot and mail them to all my congressman.
> 
> If anybody has their’s on computer please Email me a copy so I can send them out. I’m falling behind in my meaningful political activism.

[Here you go!](http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/)

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-john-roberts-partisan-hack/313265/191 "2005-07-21T14:53:56Z")

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> [@John Corrado](#):
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> Fuck you, you gangrenous ballsack.
> 
> You shit-swilling, piss-swimming, goat-licking piece of turd.
> 
> Whoo! Eat it, shit bag!

[Vader]Impressive! _Very_ impressive![/Vader]

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-john-roberts-partisan-hack/313265/192 "2005-07-21T16:00:53Z")

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> [@cosmosdan](#):
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> Hey, I didn’t get my copy of the form letter that complains about whomever Bush nominated. They were supposed to be here weeks ago and all I had to was write in the nominee’s name in the “insert nominee’s name here” spot and mail them to all my congressman.

If I didn’t know you were joking…

I’m almost of the opinion that certain groups (in all areas of the spectrum) were so geared up for a fight, that once Bush put up a name, a fight was inevitable.

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**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2005, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-john-roberts-partisan-hack/313265/193 "2005-07-23T17:39:09Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> Unless you yourself are a white Anglo-Saxon male, your remark is racist and sexist.

As a matter of fact, yes. Although I do have some native american roots deeper in my ancestory (two grandparents were 1/4th indian) my heritage is predominately anglo-saxon. And I’m male, at least last time I checked.

I don’t have anything against white anglo males, I just think that in a nation as diverse as ours there were plenty of people of an equal caliber with Roberts who could have filled the position who are of a gender/ethnicity that is underrepresented in our government.

It’s a symbolic gesture to appoint minorities, but it’s an important gesture nonetheless. Justice Thomas is a hardcore conservative and I disagree with him on just about everything, but I think it’s good that we have a black conservative on the bench as a way of showing people that having a certain skin color doesn’t mean you’re automatically going to think a certain way.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2005, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-john-roberts-partisan-hack/313265/194 "2005-07-24T15:26:18Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Looks like **Clothachump** needs a hug. Anybody here had rabies shots?

I love the way that folks immediately resort to ad hominem attacks when they can’t refute what was said originally. Soooo predictable.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2005, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-john-roberts-partisan-hack/313265/195 "2005-07-24T20:20:42Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> As a matter of fact, yes. Although I do have some native american roots deeper in my ancestory (two grandparents were 1/4th indian) my heritage is predominately anglo-saxon. And I’m male, at least last time I checked.

Well then, your remark that the court doesn’t need another white Anglo-Saxon male clearly is not racist after all. But would you also say that the board didn’t need another white Anglo-Saxon male when you signed up?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2005, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-john-roberts-partisan-hack/313265/196 "2005-07-24T21:30:54Z")

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I’ll admit I don’t know jack about our new guy. But, being the sort of person I am, all I can say is this. If both sides hate him, good. If the far left and the far right don’t like him, good. If the extreme liberals and the extreme conservatives don’t like him, good. That is a good sign. That tells me he is somewhere close to the middle ground. You can tell a man by his friends AND his enemies.

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**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2005, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-john-roberts-partisan-hack/313265/197 "2005-07-25T04:56:31Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> I love the way that folks immediately resort to ad hominem attacks when they can’t refute what was said originally. Soooo predictable.

Whatever you say, sweetycakes. And of course your first post to this thread was a well thought out one, and any resemblance to an ad-hominem is merely a clever illusion as long as you say so.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2005, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-john-roberts-partisan-hack/313265/198 "2005-07-25T05:44:41Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> Well then, your remark that the court doesn’t need another white Anglo-Saxon male clearly is not racist after all. But would you also say that the board didn’t need another white Anglo-Saxon male when you signed up?

It’s like MacBeth, dude. Too much Saxon violence.

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**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2005, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-john-roberts-partisan-hack/313265/199 "2005-07-25T12:45:17Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> It’s like MacBeth, dude. Too much Saxon violence.

I think you Pict the wrong ethnic group, there.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2005, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-john-roberts-partisan-hack/313265/200 "2005-07-25T13:02:42Z")

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> [@John Corrado](#):
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> I think you Pict the wrong ethnic group, there.

He didn’t figure all the Angles.

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