# Judge Kozinski resigns

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-kozinski-resigns/804781
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [December 18, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-kozinski-resigns/804781 "2017-12-18T17:30:57Z")
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### Author: ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-kozinski-resigns/804781/1 "2017-12-18T17:30:57Z")

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As mentioned in another thread:

> [@Sexual Harassment/Assault/Workplace Bullying omnibus thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexual-harassment-assault-workplace-bullying-omnibus-thread/803573/15):
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> Next on the list is [Federal Appeals Court Justice Alex Kozinski,](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/12/08/569559223/federal-appeals-judge-alex-kozinski-accused-of-sexual-harassment) on the 9th Circuit here in San Francisco. He says that “it is regrettable if a handful have been offended by what I may have said or done.” Clearly a 0.5 on the apology scale. I’ll leave it to someone else to rate the actual offenses alleged by his denouncers.

Update: [Judge Alex Kozinski steps down](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/judge-alex-kozinski-steps-down-after-accusations-sexual-misconduct-n830766) effectively immediately.

Huh.

And now Trump has another federal seat on the bench to fill. Ironic, in a sort of ironic way.

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### Author: ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-kozinski-resigns/804781/2 "2017-12-18T17:42:15Z")

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I heard this judge said that he can just go up to lawyers and grab 'em by the pro se.

Sad!

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### Author: ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-kozinski-resigns/804781/3 "2017-12-18T17:44:47Z")

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Dahlia Lithwick, who writes about legal stuff for Slate, published a [very personal article](http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/12/judge_alex_kozinski_made_us_all_victims_and_accomplices.html) about this guy last week.

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### Author: ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-kozinski-resigns/804781/4 "2017-12-18T17:55:03Z")

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Sounds like it’s long overdue. What’s the debate?

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### Author: ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-kozinski-resigns/804781/5 "2017-12-18T17:56:23Z")

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Moved from Great Debates to MPSIMS.

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### Author: ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-kozinski-resigns/804781/6 "2017-12-18T17:59:55Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> And now Trump has another federal seat on the bench to fill. Ironic, in a sort of ironic way.

Give the accusations that have been made against Trump, I think a plausible argument can be made that he’s in his last year of office.

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### Author: ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-kozinski-resigns/804781/7 "2017-12-18T18:00:32Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Give the accusations that have been made against Trump, I think a plausible argument can be made that he’s in his last year of office.

Wanna bet?

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### Author: ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-kozinski-resigns/804781/8 "2017-12-18T18:09:42Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Wanna bet?

What a well formulated argument!

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### Author: ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-kozinski-resigns/804781/9 "2017-12-18T18:14:33Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Wanna bet?

He won’t be forced out due to being a confessed sexual predator, he may be forced out if he is found to have committed obstruction of justice, money laundering, racketeering, and treason.

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### Author: ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-kozinski-resigns/804781/10 "2017-12-18T18:14:46Z")

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I’m saddened, because I’ve always liked Kozinski’s comments and decisions, but I’m not surprised.

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### Author: ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-kozinski-resigns/804781/11 "2017-12-18T18:16:53Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Wanna bet?

Speaking of bets, what was our wager again? Whether Trump leaves office early or not? I can’t remember the terms, and you said you had a method of keeping track of these things.

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### Author: ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-kozinski-resigns/804781/12 "2017-12-18T18:28:08Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> He won’t be forced out due to being a confessed sexual predator, he may be forced out if he is found to have committed obstruction of justice, money laundering, racketeering, and treason.

He won’t be forced out because it’s unlikely that the House would actually impeach him; they have constituents who would be up in arms if that happened.

Same for the Senate. They may be able to get a majority, but 2/3rds is not possible.

And Trump is not going to step down voluntarily.

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### Author: ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-kozinski-resigns/804781/13 "2017-12-18T18:31:54Z")

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Those views can change quickly if charges are filed.

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-kozinski-resigns/804781/14 "2017-12-18T19:09:10Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Those views can change quickly if charges are filed.

Yep. I think it’s wise to wait until Mueller presents his findings. It could be a nothingburger for Trump or it could be a whopper!

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-kozinski-resigns/804781/15 "2017-12-18T19:17:10Z")

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It might even be a Royal with Cheese!

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### Author: ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-kozinski-resigns/804781/16 "2017-12-18T19:49:47Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Give the accusations that have been made against Trump, I think a plausible argument can be made that he’s in his last year of office.

Just in case you forgot. The name was Kozinski. Judge Kozinski. Judge Kozinski resigns.

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### Author: ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-kozinski-resigns/804781/17 "2017-12-18T20:17:25Z")

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I nominate **doorhinge** to be our official subject line crier. You really knocked that one out of the park.

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### Author: ![Buttercup\_Smith](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buttercup_smith/32/473_2.png) [@Buttercup\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buttercup_Smith)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-kozinski-resigns/804781/18 "2017-12-18T21:04:05Z")

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Lordy sometimes I read stuff on here that actually make me nearly wet myself laughing. This is one of those times.

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### Author: ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-kozinski-resigns/804781/19 "2017-12-18T22:18:52Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Wanna bet?

No, the smart money says that the Republicans will continue to hold themselves to a lesser standard than other people are being held to.

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### Author: ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2017, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-kozinski-resigns/804781/20 "2017-12-18T22:21:58Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Just in case you forgot. The name was Kozinski. Judge Kozinski. Judge Kozinski resigns.

Yes, doorhinge, another public official with a history of sexual harassment allegations resigns.

So bringing Trump’s future in office into the discussion is on topic.

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