# Judge Moore removed from office! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 13, 2003, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-moore-removed-from-office/213057 "2003-11-13T17:41:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-moore-removed-from-office/213057/21 "2003-11-13T18:32:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by NurseCarmen \* > \*\*I’m certain that this isn’t the last we’ll hear from the moron. He _can_ be re-elected. \*\* You’re right about the first part for sure: [From AOL:](http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20031112043109990004&_mpc=news%2e6) > [@](#): > > Moore said he had consulted with his attorneys and with political and religious leaders and would make an announcement next week which he said ‘‘could alter the course of this country.’’ He did not elaborate. He could appeal to the Alabama Supreme Court. All I can say is that it’s great that this fuckwad has been stripped of his power. ---
**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-moore-removed-from-office/213057/22 "2003-11-13T18:32:34Z")
> [@](#): > > Hey, are you discriminating against Christian fundamentalists? What if he was Muslim? Would you be so quick to say “Yay! Another towelhead bites the dust?” No, personally I would say “yay! Another dumbass fundy bites the dust!” Note that **friedo** did not say “Another cracker bites the dust!”, which, IMHO, is the equivient to “towelhead”. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-moore-removed-from-office/213057/23 "2003-11-13T18:33:00Z")
Of course, the down side is that he’s now a martyr for the Christian Right. “This proves we Christians are discriminated against! We can’t force our beliefs into the government like the homos and the leftys are!” ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-moore-removed-from-office/213057/24 "2003-11-13T18:41:44Z")
“Fundy” is a generic term that refers to fundamentalist idiots of all faiths. I don’t discriminate. I hate everyone just the same. ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-moore-removed-from-office/213057/25 "2003-11-13T18:45:54Z")
From [CNN’s](http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/11/13/moore.tencommandments/index.html) site: > [@](#): > > Moore said he would discuss the possibility of an appeal with his lawyers and could ask the U.S. Supreme Court to review his removal, arguing that it violates the Constitution’s ban on religious tests as a qualification for office. I don’t think Moore understands just why he was removed from office. ---
**Author:** ![NYR407](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbe5ce/32.png) [@NYR407](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NYR407)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-moore-removed-from-office/213057/26 "2003-11-13T18:48:43Z")
Was he a bad judge? Or is everyone defining his judicial career on this one event? **I am not defending his behavior** , just wondering if his stance on this issue is clouding some really good things he may have done. Everyone is cheering his downfall but perhaps he was serving the people of Alabama very well behind the bench. ---
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-moore-removed-from-office/213057/27 "2003-11-13T18:53:20Z")
Oh, I know he’s just going to use it for more grandstanding and the Loony Right has a new hero, but at the same time, it’s nice to see someone get smacked down. I hope he gets disbarred. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-moore-removed-from-office/213057/28 "2003-11-13T18:53:35Z")
I don’t know his record as a judge, but based on his bizarre, twisted interpretation of the First Amendment (I have read his arguments before, but can’t find them now) I seriously doubt he was capable of making any kind of informed legal decision. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-moore-removed-from-office/213057/29 "2003-11-13T19:12:24Z")
I have to wonder how this clown ever became a judge–he doesn’t seem bright enough to pass the 1st year of law school, let alone flourish in the legal field. ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-moore-removed-from-office/213057/30 "2003-11-13T19:19:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by friedo \* > \*\*I don’t know his record as a judge, but based on his bizarre, twisted interpretation of the First Amendment (I have read his arguments before, but can’t find them now) I seriously doubt he was capable of making any kind of informed legal decision. \*\* Here’s a link (although I don’t vouch for its accuracy): [CHIEF JUSTICE CITED “CONFINEMENT” AND "EXECUTION"IN OPINION REMOVING CHILDREN FROM LESBIAN MOTHER](http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TNUKdigest/message/4119) > [@](#): > > In an > opinion that is stunning in its hatred and ignorance, Chief Justice Moore > has branded an entire class of people as abhorrent, immoral, detestable, > evil… He has even gone so far as to write that the state should jail and > execute homosexuals simply ecause of whom we love. In so doing, he has > proven he is unfit to serve as a judge, and he should be removed. I’d say we’ve got another reason to be happy. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-moore-removed-from-office/213057/31 "2003-11-13T19:32:39Z")
My bad. Thanks for the correction. No he was not a good judge. In 2002 he ruled that a [lesbian mother](http://web.morons.org/article.jsp?sectionid=1&id=1339) was unfit simply because she was a lesbian. He gave custody of the kids to their abusive father. In his comments he said homosexuality is “abhorrent, immoral, detestable, a crime against nature, and a violation of the laws of nature.” He also goes on to say we should be confined and executed. > [@](#): > > The State carries the power of the sword, that is, the power to prohibit conduct with physical penalties, such as confinement and even execution. It must use that power to prevent the subversion of children toward this lifestyle, to not encourage a criminal lifestyle. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-moore-removed-from-office/213057/32 "2003-11-13T19:34:18Z")
[Here is an alternate link](http://www.sodomylaws.org/usa/alabama/alnews08.htm) for folks who don’t use Yahoo groups. > [@](#): > > _Attributed to Moore_: > The State carries the power of the sword, that is, the power to prohibit conduct with physical penalties, such as confinement and even execution. It must use that power to prevent the subversion of children toward this lifestyle, to not encourage a criminal lifestyle. I’d sure like to see that in context. What the hell? ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-moore-removed-from-office/213057/33 "2003-11-13T19:36:26Z")
Ah, a 1920s-style “death-to-gays.” (I am so sorry.) ---
**Author:** ![paperbackwriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@paperbackwriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paperbackwriter)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-moore-removed-from-office/213057/34 "2003-11-13T19:37:12Z")
**NYR407** , Moore’s career as both Chief Justice and as a judge on lower circuits has been defined as “the 10 Commandments Judge”. This is not a media handle, it’s how Roy Moore wanted to be known and it was his platform for election. He doesn’t seem to have taken much interest in the regular business of the AL Suprm Ct. He has brought ridicule on the Court, on the Judiciary in general and on his state. It would be hard to see him as a good judge. (by “regular business”, I mean the boring, non-headline grabbing cases that make up the bulk of any Court’s docket. Business disputes, motions, etc.) ---
**Author:** ![Matchka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Matchka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Matchka)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-moore-removed-from-office/213057/35 "2003-11-13T19:46:39Z")
But…he must be so SAD! I mean, I got canned from McDonalds a number of years back and I was beside myself. This really has to be the pits! (snort) The quote I liked from CNN was, _“he called a step toward ‘prohibiting the public worship of God…I have absolutely no regrets…I have done what I was sworn to do. I have said repeatedly that unless we can acknowledge God, we can not uphold the oath of our office.’”_ Maybe this guy identified a truly problematic conflict in our government’s semantics. We DO have God all over our money and public oaths, but we don’t want Him involved with our legal system. Could be that Moore was taking the high road by living a little-understood life of hyperbole. He knew all along that the “thou shalt nots” and religious morality in general have no place in government/justice. He was just making a point…he’s a _hero_! or not. ---
**Author:** ![NYR407](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbe5ce/32.png) [@NYR407](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NYR407)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-moore-removed-from-office/213057/36 "2003-11-13T19:48:21Z")
Thanks all. It seems justice was well served to him and better off handled in someone elses hands. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-moore-removed-from-office/213057/37 "2003-11-13T19:51:50Z")
[Here’s the text of his opinion](http://www.equalitybeginsathome.homestead.com/MOOREOPINION.html) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-moore-removed-from-office/213057/38 "2003-11-13T20:01:29Z")
Maybe, after all, there really _is_ a just and loving God. If so, Lord, here is a suggestion from your more or less humble servant, **E.**. When this creep takes the dirt nap, usher him directly in to Heaven, give him his white robe and stand him on a cloud, with instructions to sing “Hallelujah” and “Hosannah” for all eternity. And when my turn comes, just let me peek in at him. In return, I’ll try to be a better person. I won’t even _annoy_ a whale. I’ll use only Amish-approved technology. I will not covet my neighbors ass. (By which I assume you mean “donkey”. Otherwise, well,…I mean well, Lord, but I’m weak…and she has _such_ a covetable ass!) ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-moore-removed-from-office/213057/39 "2003-11-13T20:12:30Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Matchka_ > \*\*But…he must be so SAD! I mean, I got canned from McDonalds a number of years back and I was beside myself. This really has to be the pits! \*\* I’m considering sending him a care basket. I think half a dozen extra-large dildos should work just fine. Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![Bongmaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Bongmaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bongmaster)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2003, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-moore-removed-from-office/213057/40 "2003-11-13T20:37:46Z")
Its a rare day when the failings of another man bring me joy, but if there’s one person in topical news that needs to be taught a lesson its this asshole. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-moore-removed-from-office/213057.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-moore-removed-from-office/213057.md?page=3)