# \["Judge not, that ye be not judged":\] What Part of No Don't You Understand?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-not-that-ye-be-not-judged-what-part-of-no-dont-you-understand/182077
**Category:** Great Debates
**Created:** [June 15, 2003, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-not-that-ye-be-not-judged-what-part-of-no-dont-you-understand/182077 "2003-06-15T20:22:20Z")
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### Author:  [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2003, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-not-that-ye-be-not-judged-what-part-of-no-dont-you-understand/182077/1 "2003-06-15T20:22:20Z")
Old country song, with a point – apparently the man who’s been bugging the singer for a romantic liaison is so far gone in his own delusions of what is supposed to happen that he is not getting her clear message that she’s not interested.
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> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life. Indeed, God did not send the Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. (John 3:16-17)
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> When the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together, and one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question to test him. “Teacher, which commandment in the law is the greatest?” He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the greatest and first commandment. And a second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.” (Matthew 22:34-40)
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> Do not judge, so that you may not be judged. For with the judgment you make you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. (Matthew 7:1-2)
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> “Do not judge, and you will not be judged; do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven; give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap; for the measure you give will be the measure you get back.” He also told them a parable: “Can a blind person guide a blind person? Will not both fall into a pit? A disciple is not above the teacher, but everyone who is fully qualified will be like the teacher. Why do you see the speck in your neighbor’s eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye? Or how can you say to your neighbor, ‘Friend, let me take out the speck in your eye,’ when you yourself do not see the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbor’s eye. No good tree bears bad fruit, nor again does a bad tree bear good fruit; for each tree is known by its own fruit. Figs are not gathered from thorns, nor are grapes picked from a bramble bush. The good person out of the good treasure of the heart produces good, and the evil person out of evil treasure produces evil; for it is out of the abundance of the heart that the mouth speaks. Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I tell you? I will show you what someone is like who comes to me, hears my words, and acts on them. That one is like a man building a house, who dug deeply and laid the foundation on rock; when a flood arose, the river burst against that house but could not shake it, because it had been well built. But the one who hears and does not act is like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation. When the river burst against it, immediately it fell, and great was the ruin of that house.” (Luke 6:37-49)
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> "When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, and he will put the sheep at his right hand and the goats at the left. Then the king will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me,
> I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry and gave you food, or thirsty and gave you something to drink? And when was it that we saw you a stranger and welcomed you, or naked and gave you clothing? And when was it that we saw you sick or in prison and visited you?’ And the king will answer them, "Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.’ Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘You that are accursed, depart from me into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not give me clothing, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not take care of you?’ Then he will answer them, “Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” (Matthew 25:31-46)
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> Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, "The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses’ seat; therefore, do whatever they teach you and follow it; but do not do as they do, for they do not practice what they teach. They tie up heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on the shoulders of others; but they themselves are unwilling to lift a finger to move them. They do all their deeds to be seen by others; for they make their phylacteries broad and their fringes long. They love to have the place of honor at banquets and the best seats in the synagogues, and to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces, and to have people call them rabbi. But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all students. And call no one your father on earth, for you have one Father—the one in heaven. Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Messiah. The greatest among you will be your servant. All who exalt themselves will be humbled, and all who humble themselves will be exalted.
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> "But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you lock people out of the kingdom of heaven. For you do not go in yourselves, and when others are going in, you stop them. Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you cross sea and land to make a single convert, and you make the new convert twice as much a child of hell as yourselves. Woe to you, blind guides, who say, "Whoever swears by the sanctuary is bound by nothing, but whoever swears by the gold of the sanctuary is bound by the oath.’ You blind fools! For which is greater, the gold or the sanctuary that has made the gold sacred? And you say, "Whoever swears by the altar is bound by nothing, but whoever swears by the gift that is on the altar is bound by the oath.’ How blind you are! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that makes the gift sacred? So whoever swears by the altar, swears by it and by everything on it; and whoever swears by the sanctuary, swears by it and by the one who dwells in it; and whoever swears by heaven, swears by the throne of God and by the one who is seated upon it. Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint, dill, and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. It is these you ought to have practiced without neglecting the others. You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel! Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you clean the outside of the cup and of the plate, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. You blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup, so that the outside also may become clean. Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs, which on the outside look beautiful, but inside they are full of the bones of the dead and of all kinds of filth. So you also on the outside look righteous to others, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness. Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you build the tombs of the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous, and you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ Thus you testify against yourselves that you are descendants of those who murdered the prophets. Fill up, then, the measure of your ancestors. You snakes, you brood of vipers! How can you escape being sentenced to hell?
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> Therefore I send you prophets, sages, and scribes, some of whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town, so that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Barachiah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar. Truly I tell you, all this will come upon this generation. Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to it! How often have I desired to gather your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you were not willing! See, your house is left to you, desolate. For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, "Blessed is the one who comes in the name of the Lord.’ " (Matthew 23)
In these propositions I see a very specific set of directions on how to live out one’s life, in the conduct with which one is supposed to be taking towards one’s fellow man. In particular, I see a prohibition on quoting Scripture to condemn one’s fellow man, not a directive to do it.
What think you?
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2003, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-not-that-ye-be-not-judged-what-part-of-no-dont-you-understand/182077/2 "2003-06-15T20:25:14Z")
I think I’m befuddled by the connection between the song and the rest of the post.
As for me, it’s the “N” part of “No” that gives me problems. It’s a funny sound and doing it for long enough makes my nose tickle. Plus I’m never sure how to pronounce an N with an umlaut over it, such as the n in “Spinal Tap.”
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2003, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-not-that-ye-be-not-judged-what-part-of-no-dont-you-understand/182077/3 "2003-06-15T20:27:08Z")
Ok, I get it now, it’s about what part of “don’t judge” don’t you understand. In that case, forget the first bit of the post.
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### Author:  [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2003, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-not-that-ye-be-not-judged-what-part-of-no-dont-you-understand/182077/4 "2003-06-15T21:09:13Z")
**Moderator’s Note:** _:ahem:_
What part of “Please use descriptive titles when starting threads” don’t you understand? 😃
Edited thread title.
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### Author:  [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2003, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-not-that-ye-be-not-judged-what-part-of-no-dont-you-understand/182077/5 "2003-06-15T21:28:07Z")
Sorry, **MEB**. :o I was, of course, playing off the song title to make a point – but you’re right; it was potentially misleading.
While we’re on the subject, however: [http://www.ucomics.com/boondocks/2003/06/14/](http://www.ucomics.com/boondocks/2003/06/14/)
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### Author:  [@Nomadic\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nomadic_One)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2003, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-not-that-ye-be-not-judged-what-part-of-no-dont-you-understand/182077/6 "2003-06-15T21:36:36Z")
I saw that in the paper two days ago. It was thought provoking. i will reply to this topic later tonight. Now I am off to church. 🙂
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### Author:  [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2003, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-not-that-ye-be-not-judged-what-part-of-no-dont-you-understand/182077/7 "2003-06-15T22:09:20Z")
**Polycarp** , you’ve hit upon some pet topics for me.
I am accused by many of being judgmental. My reply is that all of us live and die by our judgments. You must make accurate judgments when crossing a street in order not to be hit by a moving car. You must make judgments when climbing into a vehicle as to whether its owner is sober enough to drive. I’m glad to say that I make lots of judgments each and every day. I have no problem with judging people or with them judging me.
Where problems do arise is when people prejudge others unfairly. Applying preconceived notions or impressions gained from interactions with another unrelated person is unworthy at best and usually the root of much bigotry and hatred. Permanently casting someone in the mold of impressions gathered long ago have equally little merit. This sort of prejudice I most certainly do have many problems with.
As per your usual (or perhaps I should say, _unusual_) enlightened take on Christian doctrine, I’ll also applaud your stance opposing the use of scripture to condemn others. There remains one tenet fundamental to all Christian religion. It is an incredibly simple equation and yet so rarely practiced by its subscribers that Christianity’s validity is frequently thrown into doubt by this glaring defect.
“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”
I can easily see how this one formula alone completely validates your belief that no scripture be used in the condemnation of others. If one’s own doctrine pivots upon the Golden Rule, then use of that same doctrine to the end of maltreating others is the very worst sort of hypocrisy. Sadly, I see this all the time and it remains one principal roadblock to me accepting most organized religions as valid. I realize that this probably is a case similar to one scene in Herman Hesse’s book, “Steppenwolf.”
Pablo, the suave bandleader is desperately trying to extract the story’s central figure, Harry Haller, from his hidebound shell. A small and rather marginally operative radio is playing while they chat. A beautiful piece of classical music begins to scratchily issue forth from the radio’s inadequate speaker. Pablo interrupts his conversation with Harry and calls his attention to the music. (Please forgive any inaccuracies in my quoting.)
Pablo: Harry, listen! It is the beautiful overture from Rossini’s “Otello.”
[scratchy, static filled music begins to play]
Harry: Why, it sounds just terrible!
Pablo: Listen to the music, Harry, _ **not the radio** _!
That one bit of dialogue may well sum up my own potential failings in this situation too. Perhaps I am attempting to judge the worth of Christ’s words according to the sometimes ill mannered projection of them by his putative adherents. I’ll say this much, **Polycarp**.
You make it a lot easier to hear the music and ignore the radio than most Christians I have ever met in my entire life.
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2003, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-not-that-ye-be-not-judged-what-part-of-no-dont-you-understand/182077/8 "2003-06-15T22:13:27Z")
I’ve heard it said that the “judge not” thing is sometimes misinterpreted. If you make no judgments yourself, it can be said you’re abdicating your moral responsibility. On the other hand, if you take it to mean “hold yourself to the same standards to which you hold others,” it’s rather different.
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### Author:  [@Becky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Becky)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2003, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-not-that-ye-be-not-judged-what-part-of-no-dont-you-understand/182077/9 "2003-06-15T22:21:11Z")
I saw a new billboard on a local highway today. It simply featured the quotation from Deuteronomy that is so commonly used to condemn homosexuality. It’s a good thing I was a passenger, because I got more than sufficiently irritated to distract me, should I have been driving. Chapped my hide something fierce.
I agree with your interpretation, Polyarp. Condemnation by Scripture doesn’t sit well with me. It’s behavior like that that is driving people away from what is ideally a very loving faith.
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### Author:  [@badchad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badchad)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2003, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-not-that-ye-be-not-judged-what-part-of-no-dont-you-understand/182077/10 "2003-06-15T22:50:23Z")
I suppose I should throw in my favorite judgment verses when Jesus was divinely inspiring other writers in order to confuse the infidels. “Liberal” Christians can ignore them as usual.😉
Lev.19:15
“In righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.”
Jn.7:24
“Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.”
1 Cor.2:15
“But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.”
1 Cor.5:12-13
“For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.”
1 Cor.6:2-3
“Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?.”
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### Author:  [@lynn73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lynn73)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2003, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-not-that-ye-be-not-judged-what-part-of-no-dont-you-understand/182077/11 "2003-06-15T22:59:49Z")
I was just thinking of some of those scriptures myself, **badchad.**
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### Author:  [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2003, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-not-that-ye-be-not-judged-what-part-of-no-dont-you-understand/182077/12 "2003-06-15T23:41:16Z")
**Polycarp** , these replies are part of why I detest most Christians.
I have a quastion for the “saints” if your God is so righteous and just, why didn’t He include a prohibition against slavery in the Bible?
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [June 16, 2003, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-not-that-ye-be-not-judged-what-part-of-no-dont-you-understand/182077/13 "2003-06-16T01:12:13Z")
Polycarp:
What is the debate here? That Christians should not quote scripture to condemn others? Is there anyone who thinks they should (even if they do it themselves)?
Maybe I’m missing out on the country song you referred to in the OP. I have no idea what that song is.
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### Author:  [@lekatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lekatt)
#### Post date: [June 16, 2003, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-not-that-ye-be-not-judged-what-part-of-no-dont-you-understand/182077/14 "2003-06-16T01:25:48Z")
It is true that you can find justification for almost any kind of behaviour in the Bible. It was written by mortal men, during different times in history and different cultures with different beliefs about God. The Bible is not God, nor even the word of God, which would be saying the same thing. It should not be worshipped as if it were God. However, saying that does not mean it is unimportant. The Bible contains the teaching of the Master Jesus which does (if we follow it) lead us to God.
The teachings are almost always misinterpreted. People think they must run out and sacrifice themselves for the good of others. Not true. The teachings are a path for the those who want to know God. To feel His unconditional love and the safety of His presence.
Polycarp: I agree with you most of the time, but I seem to be even more liberal than you. As if “liberal” or “conservative” really describe truth. They don’t, of course.
As for judgement, means to criticize, condemn, or deem unworthy of God’s love anyone holding beliefs dissimilar to ours.
There is no person living anywhere in the world, believing any religion or no religion that is unworthy of God’s love and safety.
God loves us all the same and does not condemn any of us for anything. He stands by us through anything and everything that can possible happen. We, on the other hand, have been known to desert Him. He waits patiently for our return.
Love
Leroy
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### Author:  [@skyzoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skyzoo)
#### Post date: [June 16, 2003, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-not-that-ye-be-not-judged-what-part-of-no-dont-you-understand/182077/15 "2003-06-16T03:09:33Z")
Thank you, **lekatt**.
One of the most thought-provoking parables in the Christian Bible (for me) is:
_"Not everyone who says unto me ‘Lord, Lord’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven,_
_but he who does the work of my father"_
Quite a thought-provoking statement!
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### Author:  [@Triskadecamus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Triskadecamus)
#### Post date: [June 16, 2003, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-not-that-ye-be-not-judged-what-part-of-no-dont-you-understand/182077/16 "2003-06-16T03:25:51Z")
My Lord bids me to make judgments. He requires it of me, as a living testament to my faith in Him. It is my duty to judge all aspects of my life by His divine example. I fall short of this at every turn, and in every act of my life. Because I am so unworthy of His love, all the more do I love Him because He loves me still, and gives to me Salvation and life eternal.
I am not directed to judge the souls of others. I am not ordered to go into the world and reveal the sins of my fellow men. I am told to go forth and give the joyous news that the Judge of Man is Christ, risen from death, to atone for the sin of all. To speak of the sins of those whom Jesus has forgiven is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit of the Love of God. Who is the judge of my fellow man? Not I, but the Lord who made us all.
And what if my fellow man comes to me and asks of me the way to Salvation? I shall give to him the Word. And the Word shall dwell in his heart, and make him free. I will not speak to him of sin, and of his failings. I will speak to him of the love God has for him, and the love I have for him. And if this brother of mine is a sinner, as I am, then we shall rejoice together, that two so unworthy as we have but to kneel and pray, and we are exalted above the angels, and sanctified in the eyes of God, because the Lord has atoned for our weaknesses, and made us pure.
Sin is not the point. Glorious joy beyond measure is the point. Who is right and who is wrong is not the point. We are all wrong, and but for the rightness of God we would perish in world of our own self made misery. But God is. And we are saved by His grace, beyond any worth of our own.
Read the book. Love the Lord. Love his children, each and every one. Be and do what you know is right, and do not seek reward on earth for righteousness. This is small place, with tiny glories, and quickly tarnished treasures. Spend your efforts making your own little corner of the world more loving, and more kind. Heaven awaits, and its glories are beyond our poor imaginings.
## Tris
“Pull the string, and it will follow wherever you wish. Push it, and it will go nowhere at all.” ~ Dwight D. Eisenhower ~
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### Author:  [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)
#### Post date: [June 16, 2003, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-not-that-ye-be-not-judged-what-part-of-no-dont-you-understand/182077/17 "2003-06-16T03:47:07Z")
Triskadecamus:
Very well said! You have hit the nail on the head: one is to judge only oneself; never to judge another.
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### Author:  [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)
#### Post date: [June 16, 2003, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-not-that-ye-be-not-judged-what-part-of-no-dont-you-understand/182077/18 "2003-06-16T04:31:09Z")
badchad, thanks for posting the verses which may seem to support judgment of others. They present examples of how the Bible contradicts itself. The two verses below are examples:
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> Do not judge, so that you may not be judged. For with the judgment you make you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. (Matthew 7:1-2)
The first verse quoted is from the Old Testament. To me it can be interpreted to mean either:
1. It is righteous to judge thy neighbor or
2. Only if you are perfect should you judge your neighbor.
If the first interpretation is correct, then it contradicts the New Testament verse that says _Do not judge._ If the second interpretation is correct, no one should be judging anyone because none of us are perfect.
When I find contradictory verses, I try to consider the source. The Old Testament was written before the birth of Jesus. For me, any teaching from the New Testament outweighs the Old.
Some of your quotations were from Paul – a man who admited to making many mistakes. If Paul said that we should judge each other, I think he was mistaken.
Only one of the quotations concerning judgment was said to have been spoken by Jesus. That is the one that makes the most sense to me.
Zenster:
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> You must make accurate judgments when crossing a street in order not to be hit by a moving car. You must make judgments when climbing into a vehicle as to whether its owner is sober enough to drive. I’m glad to say that I make lots of judgments each and every day. I have no problem with judging people or with them judging me.
Zenster, isn’t there a difference in being discerning and in being judgmental? When I read “Judge not,” I am thinking that the verse is about not judging other people’s worthiness or unworthiness as if I were some kind of gods myself. It doesn’t mean that I won’t make judgments regarding the person I marry or the people I allow to babysit with my grandchildren.
In reading through several threads on Christianity in the last few months, I know that for whatever reason, there are some Christians here whose love I do not feel.
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### Author:  [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)
#### Post date: [June 16, 2003, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-not-that-ye-be-not-judged-what-part-of-no-dont-you-understand/182077/19 "2003-06-16T04:52:14Z")
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> \*Originally posted by badchad \*
> \*\*I suppose I should throw in my favorite judgment verses when Jesus was divinely inspiring other writers in order to confuse the infidels. “Liberal” Christians can ignore them as usual.😉
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> Lev.19:15
> “In righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.”
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> Jn.7:24
> “Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.”
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> 1 Cor.2:15
> “But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.”
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> 1 Cor.5:12-13
> “For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.”
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> 1 Cor.6:2-3
> “Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?.” \*\*
You know what these verses all have in common? Jesus didn’t say them.
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### Author:  [@badchad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badchad)
#### Post date: [June 16, 2003, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judge-not-that-ye-be-not-judged-what-part-of-no-dont-you-understand/182077/20 "2003-06-16T05:15:39Z")
Diogenes the Cynic:
_You know what these verses all have in common? Jesus didn’t say them._
Yeah huh. When Jesus was allegedly god he was divinely inspiring his favorite people to copy it down for him. I think it’s what he did for fun in between smiting.
Of course, if Jesus wasn’t god then who gives a rats tail what he said.
Either way I don’t see any refuge for the liberal believers.
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