# Judging others, smuggness and snobbery **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 22, 2015, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judging-others-smuggness-and-snobbery/728515 "2015-08-22T10:59:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judging-others-smuggness-and-snobbery/728515/21 "2015-08-22T19:44:11Z")
> [@Tithonus](#): > > It works the other way, too. A lot of uneducated and uncultured people love nothing better than a good long sneer at folks who enjoy higher art. I mean, which group of people do you think is larger? The group that enjoys watching or reading Shakespeare? Or the group that would say _“Shakespeare? You lah-di-dah faggot! Why don’t you just watch football like a normal person?”_ > > Call me cynical, but my money’s on group 2. You forgot about the third group - the people who read Shakespeare so they can sound smart to the people who actually enjoy Shakespeare and intelligent to the people who can’t understand it. Nobody likes them. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judging-others-smuggness-and-snobbery/728515/22 "2015-08-22T19:46:14Z")
> [@SpoilerVirgin](#): > > We do it because it makes us feel better. I’m smart (not-so-stealth-brag), so I feel better than people who aren’t as smart as me. It helps me to get over the fact that I’m not as attractive, socially capable, strong, athletic, brave, interesting, successful, rich, funny, organized, educated, tall or sexually desirable as they are. I’m constantly surrounded by people like you. How do I make it stop? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judging-others-smuggness-and-snobbery/728515/23 "2015-08-22T19:49:04Z")
> [@Mr.Nylock](#): > > You forgot about the third group - the people who read Shakespeare so they can sound smart to the people who actually enjoy Shakespeare and intelligent to the people who can’t understand it. > > Nobody likes them. Why are you ignoring the group that reads Shakespeare in the original Klingon? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judging-others-smuggness-and-snobbery/728515/24 "2015-08-22T19:53:23Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Why are you ignoring the group that reads Shakespeare in the original Klingon? I don’t speak Klingon; I thought they were reading Beckett - and we all know how gauche that is. They still suck anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Corporal\_Nobbs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Corporal\_Nobbs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corporal_Nobbs)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judging-others-smuggness-and-snobbery/728515/25 "2015-08-22T20:51:34Z")
Where did I say I was better than anyone?:dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judging-others-smuggness-and-snobbery/728515/26 "2015-08-22T20:56:51Z")
Sorry, but it evidently is part of the human condition for rare steak devotees to sneer at those who like their beef well done. ---
**Author:** ![Corporal\_Nobbs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Corporal\_Nobbs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corporal_Nobbs)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judging-others-smuggness-and-snobbery/728515/27 "2015-08-22T21:33:06Z")
My point was, why judge others on what they enjoy if it causes you no problems? I do not have any history with the poster in the ‘What Did Walter White do that was evil’ thread, you say it was a drive by, I felt his comments about his BIL were out of context with the thread and snarky, he replied, as did I. Hardly a Drive by. To those who say im judging those who judge, yes I suppose I am, however I was asking about motivation for random nastiness. Where was I nasty? I have met many more people in life who look down on those who they believe have base interests than I have those who bad mouth people who likes allegedly more high brow media… ---
**Author:** ![Corporal\_Nobbs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Corporal\_Nobbs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corporal_Nobbs)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judging-others-smuggness-and-snobbery/728515/28 "2015-08-22T21:35:17Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > I think what kayaker is saying (or at least it’s what I got out of it) is that this whole post is judgy and snobby. > > paraphrased > ‘I read fast’ > ‘I read all kinds of books’ > ‘My slow reading friend only reads one kind of book.’ > ‘my coworkers don’t know how to use computers but I’m an IT pro’ > > Why would you start a thread just tell us about your accomplishments and their downfalls? I’m kinda glad I’m not one of your friends just so you could talk about why you’re better than me. > You may have gone a bit left of center on live and let live. Where did I say I was better? I said that everyone is different has different talents and interests…:dubious: ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judging-others-smuggness-and-snobbery/728515/29 "2015-08-22T22:40:27Z")
> [@Mr.Nylock](#): > > I’m constantly surrounded by people like you. How do I make it stop? If you don’t like people who think they’re smarter than everyone else around them, but not as attractive, socially capable, strong, athletic, brave, interesting, successful, rich, funny, organized, educated, tall or sexually desirable, you’re on the wrong message board, amigo. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judging-others-smuggness-and-snobbery/728515/30 "2015-08-22T23:17:28Z")
Overall, you are correct. But there again, ignorance and pettiness are not admirable qualities and people who “don’t like to read” are ignorant and reality TV is pettiness personified. ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judging-others-smuggness-and-snobbery/728515/31 "2015-08-22T23:34:19Z")
> [@pullin](#): > > At a family gathering a few years ago, a younger 20-something started the typical sanctimonious pooh-poohing because I’m a hunter. > > I answered her that I wasn’t really an old redneck, but a Hipster who’d gone meta. No longer satisfied with ironically drinking Pabst, I’d gone full-on and acquired guns and camo. Then I asked her if she had _any idea_ how difficult it was to turn a pickup into a fixie, or how much Aamco charged to change a transmission to single speed? > > All I got was a blank stare… honestly I probably would have just responded with a “did I ask for your fucking opinion?” ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judging-others-smuggness-and-snobbery/728515/32 "2015-08-23T00:04:18Z")
> [@Corporal\_Nobbs](#): > > Where did I say I was better? I said that everyone is different has different talents and interests…:dubious: And judged them for being smug and patronizing about it. ---
**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judging-others-smuggness-and-snobbery/728515/33 "2015-08-23T00:12:48Z")
> [@faithfool](#): > > Okay, I got it and thought it was hilarious. Two thumbs up. ↑ ↑ ↑ This…😉 ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judging-others-smuggness-and-snobbery/728515/34 "2015-08-25T18:46:06Z")
> [@Corporal\_Nobbs](#): > > I felt his comments about his BIL were out of context with the thread and snarky Pot, meet kettle. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judging-others-smuggness-and-snobbery/728515/35 "2015-08-25T18:52:01Z")
And, I should add, maybe I’m being some kind of cooking vessel myself. I’m not pretending to be immune to this aspect of the human condition. ---
**Author:** ![stillownedbysetters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/41988e/32.png) [@stillownedbysetters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stillownedbysetters)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judging-others-smuggness-and-snobbery/728515/36 "2015-08-25T19:21:53Z")
Put simply, there are some people who are unable to feel good about themselves unless they can find someone else to look down on. These people sadden me. How awful it must be to be them. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judging-others-smuggness-and-snobbery/728515/37 "2015-08-25T20:42:26Z")
The answer to these kinds of questions is always the same. Because it feels good. It feels good to think you’re better than others. Especially when you feel insecure about yourself. Another reason it feels good to judge? Because people are fucking annoying. Sometimes the only way to release the tension is to mentally make fun of people who bug the shit out of you. Now, what I don’t understand is the need to express judgments out loud. I totally understand “judgy” thoughts, because I have them all the time. But I try to keep them to myself. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judging-others-smuggness-and-snobbery/728515/38 "2015-08-26T23:21:57Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > The answer to these kinds of questions is always the same. > > Because it feels good. > > It feels good to think you’re better than others. Especially when you feel insecure about yourself. > > Another reason it feels good to judge? Because people are fucking annoying. Sometimes the only way to release the tension is to mentally make fun of people who bug the shit out of you. > > Now, what I don’t understand is the need to express judgments out loud. I totally understand “judgy” thoughts, because I have them all the time. But I try to keep them to myself. I don’t tend to have judgey thoughts, unless say there is a mystery or something and then I offer it as a logical theory. Roomate never paid a hint of rent, and after you kicked him out you found used syringes with brown residue in them? Yea he might have been a heroin addict. I find the nonsensical judgements the strangest, like a grocery store clerk that told me wow you sure buy a lot of cheese so you’re like that, I was like like what exactly? She had no comment. I was buying a half pound of cheddar and a half pound of feta, guess I am one of “those people”😕 ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judging-others-smuggness-and-snobbery/728515/39 "2015-08-26T23:34:36Z")
> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#): > > I’m afraid that’s all I can offer as well. > mmm Me, too. But it’s got a rhythm and I can dance to it. Nine out of ten. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judging-others-smuggness-and-snobbery/728515/40 "2015-08-26T23:42:08Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > And judged them for being smug and patronizing about it. Uh yea, because this social back biting garbage causes a lot of damage? This sounds like don’t you see you are also intolerant, of people who are intolerant! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judging-others-smuggness-and-snobbery/728515.md?page=1)