I’m not sure that you’ve considered the wrinkling issue. If I get a large tattoo, I will put it on by belly. When I get old and wrinkly, I can acquire a pot belly large enough to keep the canvas taught.
And just what will you teach the canvas that is your belly?
Incidentally, I just love this objection to tattoos: “Hey, when you’re old and wrinkly, that tattoo will look like crap!”
Dude, when you’re old and wrinkly and sitting in the nursing home, you’re going to look like crap because you’re old and wrinkly, not because you’ve got a sagging tattoo. I’m sure the nursing home staff is going to wrinkle their noses in disgust, and all because of that blotch of ink you got 50 years ago.
I think it’s also notable that what some hypothetically maximally enlightened person thinks about the gun tattoo on the forehead is probably not the same thing that the person WITH the tattoo thinks about it.
For example, if I had been seeking to join his group of friends and I had a rainbow flag tattooed on MY forehead, would the response have been an even-handed “Oh well, it’s just a tattoo.”?
That an elderly person’s life is fraut with difficulty?
That one should age gracefully, like a fine whine?
To rage, rage against the dyeing of the light?
Would it over-complicating things to get myself tattooed with a reasonable definition of “irony” but that contains several misspellings?
This has me wondering: could a clever tattoo artist turn the gun into a cross? That might open up some more employment opportunities for him (e.g., barista at a Starbucks in rural West Virginia.) He’d have a very interesting story of how it got there.
And if he changes his mind again, he could always go full Manson and have the cross turned into a swastika.
I’m all for tattoos but I’d have a problem with a gun in the middle of his forehead.
I would have to use it to gauge the type of person he is, not only his attitude towards guns, violence and how he chooses to be viewed by others but his social intelligence, his self-image, his decision making skills, long-term vision, etc… These are all qualities he may be lacking … and it’s written (drawn) right on his face.
Apparently some nasty judgmental people on a jury will conclude that a defendant with tears tattooed on his face* is gang-affiliated or is proud of having murdered someone, so it’s now a thing to have a makeup artist (or at least makeup) provided at taxpayer expense so no one will be unfairly prejudiced against you.
*I didn’t know this before looking it up, but only having an outline of tears tattooed on your face is supposed to mean you attempted murder. It’s not honorable to claim murder unless you actually did it, and could cause resentment among your fellow prison inmates.
**By the way, people often manifest with saggy tattoos in middle age, so they get to carry around unattractive ink for decades.
I have. I know which areas remained less wrinkly in my closest ancestors. The belly isn’t one.
I don’t really agree. I know some beautiful old and wrinkly people.
I saw a gentleman like this yesterday at the doctors office - probably a Korean War Vet - looked the type - with something that was once a tattoo on his bicep - which was now just a red splotch (and yes, ink has gotten better and we expect tats will age better).
The tattoo did look like crap. But he didn’t. Now, given what I suspect, the tattoo communicated something to me about him that was probably really important - and it that way really added to his visual story. But I don’t think modern tattoos will be capable of telling the same sort of story. The flowers across your lower back when you are 80 that have perhaps turned mooshy with age (the inks age and your skins age) don’t say “I served” in the same way this man’s did.
One reason I decided against getting a map of Iraq tattooed on my arm is that I don’t want it to look like a map of Chile in a few decades.
I can see the point of that. If part of the criminal justice system is that a case should be judged on the evidence for that specific case only, the jury isn’t supposed to judge the current case on evidence of other cases. So the defendant confessing to a murder should only be known to the jury if it’s a confession for the murder that particular trial is about, if the idea is that a case should be judged on the evidence for that specific case only.
I recently learned that the courtroom gesture of placing one hand on the Bible while holding the other palm-out towards the judge hearkens back to a time when criminals would have their crimes branded onto their palms. So, maybe an A for adultery, a B for burglary, etc. Holding up one’s palm in court was a way of displaying a rap sheet.
Well, one isn’t supposed to do that to one’s own face, right? Still, if the guy could otherwise prove to be trustworthy, I’d hire him as a bartender or, really, whatever seemed appropriate. I would not hire the guy with swastika face tattoos to be a tour guide at the holocaust museum. We’ve never had a president with face tattoos… this is an avoidable problem, and I am more easygoing than most.
With respect, this *sounds *super FOAFy. Linkity-link?
Someone who has a tattoo, on his face, advocating criminal violence, should not expect any job anywhere. I wouldn’t hire him as a factory worker, garbage collector, anything, unless he agreed to have it completely removed before starting work. If it has no meaning to him, then even better for him that it be removed, because it sure as hell does have a meaning to everyone else.
I learned about this on one of those guided history tours, so it Is kind of hearsay. But I found some corroboration- I guess we can trust those guys after all. From here:
As for the courtroom claim, this is the best I could find:
Not a slam-dunk of a cite, but the branding was taking place in court, where presumably previous brands would be noted…
Bumping this to note the (self) passing of probably the most famous and successful face tattoo guy.
Thread derailment: He had to wait SIX MONTHS to have a brain tumor removed?!?!?!?
I had a student a few years ago with a large swastika on her neck (oddly, not the first). She was 18 or 19, so unless she was tattooed as a minor child against her will, the symbol shows a fairly recent like of ideas/culture a swastika represents. She was an okay, quiet student who wrote bland papers, but I was uncomfortable with her. Her ink was a big Fuck You to gay me, her peers of color/religion, my Jewish wife (whose grandma was murdered in Auschwitz), and basically any moral human being.
Maybe she was unaware of the many meanings a swastika has; perhaps she has a boyfriend in a white power band and the tatt was a young love mistake. However, humans make snap judgements about others (is this a friend or foe?) and a swastika, for a vast majority of people, is a “Danger: Keep Away!” warning label.
To a lesser but still significant extent, a gun tatt on the forehead is a warning label. Maybe he was just a young wannabe thug and has never even held a gun – but once he used his face as a billboard for a symbol of violence, he lost control of its meaning for others.
On hiring: I’d check gun guy’s criminal history and hire him for non-customer facing positions if his record was okay. Swastika girl: not in a billion years.