# Judy Blue Eyes Suite by CSN - What's it really about? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [August 17, 2001, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judy-blue-eyes-suite-by-csn-whats-it-really-about/76753 "2001-08-17T16:24:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judy-blue-eyes-suite-by-csn-whats-it-really-about/76753/1 "2001-08-17T16:24:17Z")
Per the OP this Crosby Stills & Nash song seems to talk about a failing relationship (I think) although somewhat cryptically. Is this song a reflection of a (then) real life scenario one one of them was going through? What’s it all about? [http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/1841/sjbe.htm](http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/1841/sjbe.htm) lyrics link ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judy-blue-eyes-suite-by-csn-whats-it-really-about/76753/2 "2001-08-17T16:26:33Z")
It’s about Judy Collins, but whether it was CSN or Y or exactly what the deal was with her I don’t remember. ---
**Author:** ![Odieman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a87d85/32.png) [@Odieman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odieman)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judy-blue-eyes-suite-by-csn-whats-it-really-about/76753/3 "2001-08-17T16:29:30Z")
Well since Steven Stills wrote the lyrics we can assume it was about him… ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judy-blue-eyes-suite-by-csn-whats-it-really-about/76753/4 "2001-08-17T17:46:29Z")
I believe I’ve read that at the time it was written, Stephen Stills and Graham Nash were in compeitition for her affections. Looks like Stephen got one up on ole’ Graham 😉 . - Tamerlane ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judy-blue-eyes-suite-by-csn-whats-it-really-about/76753/5 "2001-08-17T18:10:44Z")
I guess I’m not as much of a Styx fan as I thought. I had no idea they covered that song. ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judy-blue-eyes-suite-by-csn-whats-it-really-about/76753/6 "2001-08-17T19:44:33Z")
According to the sleeve notes in the limited edition gold cd > [@](#): > > The “Suite” was a romantic paean, a painfully honest graph of Still’s involvement with folk singer Judy Collins. > > [sub]from Steven Stills[/sub] > "It poured out of me over many months and filled several notebooks. > I had a hell of a time getting the music to fit.I was left with all these peices of song and I said(to myself) ‘Let’s sing them together and call it a suite’, because they were all about the same thing and led to the same point. > > …and the little kicker at the about Cuba was just to liven it up because it had gone on forever and it didn’t want it to just fall apart" The album starts off with this love song to Judy Collins and finishes with 49 Bye-Byes which is two songs rolled up into one, 49 Reasons and Bye Bye Baby and records the end of Still’s relationship with Judy Collins, the whole album could be seen as being inspired one way or another by her. ---
**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judy-blue-eyes-suite-by-csn-whats-it-really-about/76753/7 "2001-08-17T20:20:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by bordelond \* > \*\*I guess I’m not as much of a Styx fan as I thought. I had no idea they covered that song. \*\* ???. I thought the Styx song was called “Sweet Madame Blue” and was no relation to the CSNY song. ---
**Author:** ![Tedster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4491bb/32.png) [@Tedster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tedster)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/judy-blue-eyes-suite-by-csn-whats-it-really-about/76753/8 "2001-08-17T22:41:29Z")
The Styx song refers to a declining America in general, on the world stage (Carter years, and all ya know)