# Juggernaut vs Captain America's Shield **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 20, 2017, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juggernaut-vs-captain-americas-shield/782591 "2017-03-20T04:04:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juggernaut-vs-captain-americas-shield/782591/21 "2017-03-20T20:07:05Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > He’s not a mutant. He’s very much not a mutant. If you want to get Cain Marko pissed, calling him a mutant might actually be the quickest way How about if you call him a mendicant? ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juggernaut-vs-captain-americas-shield/782591/22 "2017-03-20T20:33:34Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > How about if you call him a mendicant? He doesn’t beg. He takes. ---
**Author:** ![TYphoonSignal8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@TYphoonSignal8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TYphoonSignal8)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2017, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juggernaut-vs-captain-americas-shield/782591/23 "2017-03-21T09:32:05Z")
> [@pool](#): > > It always made me sad the way Gladiator was able to simply toss Juggernaut miles away like a sack of potatoes-Random thought on reading thread Gladiator always seems to be pitched as the man to beat in the Marvel universe. Witness his recent raid on Asgardia to abduct Thor. He doesn’t really need to be backed by the rest of the Shi’ar Imperial Guard. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2017, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juggernaut-vs-captain-americas-shield/782591/24 "2017-03-21T14:17:47Z")
> [@Firebreather1](#): > > Captain America’s shield is utterly indestructible, made entirely of Vibranium. The only people who have been able to break/destroy it were characters with godlike powers, such as Serpent, Odin’s brother, and Dr. Doom when he stole the omnipotent Beyonder’s powers. > > The best he can hope for is to stagger Steve backwards a little bit. He’s not getting past the shield.😃 Thor damaged it with his hammer once, when he possessed the Odin-force. ---
**Author:** ![psiekier](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psiekier/32/116_2.png) [@psiekier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psiekier)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2017, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juggernaut-vs-captain-americas-shield/782591/25 "2017-03-21T14:51:57Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > How about if you call him a mendicant? What does “mulch” mean? ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2017, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juggernaut-vs-captain-americas-shield/782591/26 "2017-03-21T14:54:50Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I think a better question would be, stick Juggernaut in a giant Adamantium or Vibranium box with enough room to run. What happens when he hits the end? Sounds like the kind of stunt Arcade would want to pull. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2017, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juggernaut-vs-captain-americas-shield/782591/27 "2017-03-21T14:57:14Z")
> [@Dendarii\_Dame](#): > > Sounds like the kind of stunt Arcade would want to pull. Oh, well, then, Juggernaut gets out. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2017, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juggernaut-vs-captain-americas-shield/782591/28 "2017-03-21T23:09:02Z")
> [@psiekier](#): > > What does “mulch” mean? I can plainly see that. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juggernaut-vs-captain-americas-shield/782591/29 "2017-03-21T23:17:57Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I suppose it also depends on whether Juggernaut is the primary or secondary villain of the story. I was going to say, “It depends on which situation is dramatically appropriate.” Cap hides from a bomb behind the shield: gets blown out the window. Cap puts his shield up against somebody’s face and punches the back of it: Guy gets KO’d. Somebody punches the shield: Shield stops the punch. Thor hits the shield with all his might: Shield doesn’t budge, Cap’s legs don’t get broken. Cap throws the shield at somebody: Shield hits the guy hard enough KO him, then _bounces off_ rather than dropping to the ground and ricochets a couple times before it comes back to Cap. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2017, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juggernaut-vs-captain-americas-shield/782591/30 "2017-03-21T23:30:06Z")
I may be a little confused, but is calling Juggernaut “unstoppable” literal or just poetic description? Because he seems to be awesomely strong and nigh-indestructible, but very stoppable. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2017, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juggernaut-vs-captain-americas-shield/782591/31 "2017-03-22T01:53:39Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > I was going to say, “It depends on which situation is dramatically appropriate.” > > Cap hides from a bomb behind the shield: gets blown out the window. > > Cap puts his shield up against somebody’s face and punches the back of it: Guy gets KO’d. > > Somebody punches the shield: Shield stops the punch. > > Thor hits the shield with all his might: Shield doesn’t budge, Cap’s legs don’t get broken. > > Cap throws the shield at somebody: Shield hits the guy hard enough KO him, then _bounces off_ rather than dropping to the ground and ricochets a couple times before it comes back to Cap. That thing doesn’t obey the laws of physics at all! ---
**Author:** ![DorkVader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@DorkVader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DorkVader)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2017, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juggernaut-vs-captain-americas-shield/782591/32 "2017-03-22T05:14:48Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > I may be a little confused, but is calling Juggernaut “unstoppable” literal or just poetic description? Because he seems to be awesomely strong and nigh-indestructible, but very stoppable. See, this is sort of where I come from on Juggernaut. His seeming infinite momentum isn’t really him moving. It looks like he’s moving through space cause he’s making those bodily motions, but really, the source of his ability causes him to not move through the universe. Instead, the universe moves around him, thus making it appear that he has infinite momentum. Cap’s shield isn’t indestructible. It can be damaged by Thor when he has the odin-force and others with godlike ability. When Thor “put the hammer down” in the movie, there was a shock wave, an electrical discharge of some sort, a visible radiation wave, and a really loud kabong wave, all the sorts of things I thought Stark said vibranium absorbs (could be mistaken on that one though) It may be really really hard to damage, but that’s because its irresistible, that is the true property of vibranium. it is quantumly irresistible. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/juggernaut-vs-captain-americas-shield/782591.md?page=1)