# Julia Volkova: t.A.T.u singer says she would 'condemn' her son if he were gay **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 19, 2014, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julia-volkova-t-a-t-u-singer-says-she-would-condemn-her-son-if-he-were-gay/698965 "2014-09-19T19:30:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Cognoscant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Cognoscant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cognoscant)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2014, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julia-volkova-t-a-t-u-singer-says-she-would-condemn-her-son-if-he-were-gay/698965/41 "2014-09-23T00:58:23Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I thought Tatu died a long time ago. De pain, boss. ---
**Author:** ![robert\_columbia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@robert\_columbia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robert_columbia)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2014, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julia-volkova-t-a-t-u-singer-says-she-would-condemn-her-son-if-he-were-gay/698965/42 "2014-09-23T13:33:06Z")
There are no gays in Russia. There are homosexuals, but they are not allowed to be gay about it. The penalty is ten years in prison locked up with other men, and there is a five year waiting list for that. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2014, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julia-volkova-t-a-t-u-singer-says-she-would-condemn-her-son-if-he-were-gay/698965/43 "2014-09-23T20:42:07Z")
[quote=“Der\_Trihs, post:17, topic:698965”] A [common attitude among religious parents](http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/the-forsaken-a-rising-number-of-homeless-gay-teens-are-being-cast-out-by-religious-families-20140903)QUOTE] No it isn’t, stupid-face. ---
**Author:** ![Daffyd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daffyd/32/8923_2.png) [@Daffyd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daffyd)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julia-volkova-t-a-t-u-singer-says-she-would-condemn-her-son-if-he-were-gay/698965/44 "2014-09-24T03:00:33Z")
> [@robert\_columbia](#): > > There are no gays in Russia. There are homosexuals, but they are not allowed to be gay about it. The penalty is ten years in prison locked up with other men, and there is a five year waiting list for that. Glad you think this is funny. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julia-volkova-t-a-t-u-singer-says-she-would-condemn-her-son-if-he-were-gay/698965/45 "2014-09-24T03:14:19Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Didn’t the lesbian thing only last a little while? I remember them both “coming out” as straight pretty shortly after they became famous. I’d be surprised if they had a particular cachet with Russian LGBTs, given how transparently the whole thing was designed specifically to cater to straight male sexual fantasies. Agreed, and frankly I think only some desperately horny straight guys would be dumb enough to believe their act. I’m reminded of a comment a friend of mine made, “No real lesbians watch lesbian porn.” Obviously she had her tongue pressed firmly in her cheek. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julia-volkova-t-a-t-u-singer-says-she-would-condemn-her-son-if-he-were-gay/698965/46 "2014-09-24T03:19:58Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > A [common attitude among religious parents](http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/the-forsaken-a-rising-number-of-homeless-gay-teens-are-being-cast-out-by-religious-families-20140903); the only unusual bit is that she’s willing to tolerate a lesbian child and not reject them as well. > > That’s in America; it’s likely worse in Russia. You just destroyed your own argument. Russia is vastly less religious than the US so by your logic homophobia should be vastly less in Russia than the US. Please read a book and then when you’ve learned something come back and join us. Until then, hush now, the adults are talking. ---
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julia-volkova-t-a-t-u-singer-says-she-would-condemn-her-son-if-he-were-gay/698965/47 "2014-09-24T13:17:17Z")
I saw them open for someone a couple decades ago (NIN?). The haters will be happy to know their lip-syncing pseudo-lesbian antics got them booed off the stage. It was not pretty. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julia-volkova-t-a-t-u-singer-says-she-would-condemn-her-son-if-he-were-gay/698965/48 "2014-09-24T13:43:25Z")
> [@lost4life](#): > > I saw them open for someone a couple decades ago (NIN?). Hey, we’re not quite that old yet, are we? t.A.T.u. is more like “a decade ago” phenomenon. (They formed in 1999, released their first singles in late 2000, and first album and tour in 2001.) I wonder who they would have opened for. I’m a bit surprised that anyone still remembers them, much less cares what they have to say. I was living in Europe when they hit it big, and there were a couple of songs that were fairly popular, but they always struck me as a flash-in-the-pan phenomenon, filed away with such performers as Lou Bega and Scatman John. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julia-volkova-t-a-t-u-singer-says-she-would-condemn-her-son-if-he-were-gay/698965/49 "2014-09-24T17:58:34Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Hey, we’re not quite that old yet, are we? t.A.T.u. is more like “a decade ago” phenomenon. (They formed in 1999, released their first singles in late 2000, and first album and tour in 2001.) I wonder who they would have opened for. I’m a bit surprised that anyone still remembers them, much less cares what they have to say. I was living in Europe when they hit it big, and there were a couple of songs that were fairly popular, but they always struck me as a flash-in-the-pan phenomenon, filed away with such performers as Lou Bega and Scatman John. “All the Things She Said” was SO DAMN CATCHY that I can still hum it on command. I have no idea what the rest of Tatu’s output was like, but that song dug into a lot of brains even without the pseudo-lesbian stuff. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julia-volkova-t-a-t-u-singer-says-she-would-condemn-her-son-if-he-were-gay/698965/50 "2014-09-24T18:05:05Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > “All the Things She Said” was SO DAMN CATCHY that I can still hum it on command. I have no idea what the rest of Tatu’s output was like, but that song dug into a lot of brains even without the pseudo-lesbian stuff. Yeah, that was their main hit. There was also “They’re Not Gonna Get Us” or something like that, plus a cover of the Smiths “How Soon Is Now?” as a bit of a curveball. At least those were the three I remember hearing out in Euro-land/Hungary–don’t know how many made it across the pond. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julia-volkova-t-a-t-u-singer-says-she-would-condemn-her-son-if-he-were-gay/698965/51 "2014-09-24T22:04:26Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > You just destroyed your own argument. Russia is vastly less religious than the US so by your logic homophobia should be vastly less in Russia than the US. Russia is intensely religious these days. And I fail to see how I “destroyed my own argument” when I said that treatment of homosexual children is likely worse in a nation that is more homophobic. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julia-volkova-t-a-t-u-singer-says-she-would-condemn-her-son-if-he-were-gay/698965/52 "2014-09-25T01:11:46Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Russia is intensely religious these days. No it’s not. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julia-volkova-t-a-t-u-singer-says-she-would-condemn-her-son-if-he-were-gay/698965/53 "2014-09-25T04:39:06Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > No it’s not. I should have added, the most recent survey by Pew found only about 8% of all Russian adults went to church even once a month. When well over 90% of all Russians don’t go to church the idea that Russians are “intensely religious” is beyond stupid. ---
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julia-volkova-t-a-t-u-singer-says-she-would-condemn-her-son-if-he-were-gay/698965/54 "2014-09-25T13:16:16Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Hey, we’re not quite that old yet, are we? t.A.T.u. is more like “a decade ago” phenomenon. (They formed in 1999, released their first singles in late 2000, and first album and tour in 2001.) I wonder who they would have opened for. I’m a bit surprised that anyone still remembers them, much less cares what they have to say. I was living in Europe when they hit it big, and there were a couple of songs that were fairly popular, but they always struck me as a flash-in-the-pan phenomenon, filed away with such performers as Lou Bega and Scatman John. This got me questioning my memory. I asked some friends who would have been with me, and the consensus was it was not TATU, but some unremembered albeit very similar act. A few hot chicks doing some lesbian antics, lip-synching some dance tunes. One possibility was Fem2Fem, which fits the time frame (and they did get majorly booed, I’m assuming for the lip-synching, not the lesbianism). Mea culpa. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julia-volkova-t-a-t-u-singer-says-she-would-condemn-her-son-if-he-were-gay/698965/55 "2014-09-25T14:19:18Z")
Show me on this doll where the stupid celebrity’s words hurt you. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julia-volkova-t-a-t-u-singer-says-she-would-condemn-her-son-if-he-were-gay/698965/56 "2014-09-25T22:18:46Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > They were a manufactured Russian underage “lesbian” pop group that apparently sold a shit-ton of records internationally. So…they’re a porn parody of the Spice Girls? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julia-volkova-t-a-t-u-singer-says-she-would-condemn-her-son-if-he-were-gay/698965.md?page=2)