# Julian Assange of Wikileaks for Nobel Peace Prize?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [September 18, 2010, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julian-assange-of-wikileaks-for-nobel-peace-prize/554154 "2010-09-18T00:44:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julian-assange-of-wikileaks-for-nobel-peace-prize/554154/61 "2010-09-20T22:18:09Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> > [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> > Outside our borders - which is where Afghanistan is - we are as bad or worse as the Taliban, the Soviet Union, and every other gaggle of thugs out there over whom we pretend to have moral superiority. Being raped, tortured or murdered by Americans or their puppets is just as brutal and fatal as being raped, tortured or murdered by our opponents.
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> So you don’t think the US is as bad as the Taliban, you think we are WORSE than the Taliban!!!

Whataya new around here. 😉

I love that in this exchange the fall-back, “reasonable position” is that we aren’t worse, only _just as bad_ as the Taliban.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julian-assange-of-wikileaks-for-nobel-peace-prize/554154/62 "2010-09-23T21:27:49Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> > [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> > So you don’t think the US is as bad as the Taliban, you think we are WORSE than the Taliban!!!
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> Whataya new around here. 😉
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> I love that in this exchange the fall-back, “reasonable position” is that we aren’t worse, only _just as bad_ as the Taliban.

I don’t think we are anywhere near as bad as the Taliban.

I think this Assange fellow deserves at least as much criticism from the left as we threw at Scooter Libby and Dick Cheney for the Valerie Plame affair.

I hope Assange hangs for what he did.

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**Author:** ![carm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@carm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carm)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julian-assange-of-wikileaks-for-nobel-peace-prize/554154/63 "2010-09-23T23:03:39Z")

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Why should he care about information sensitive to US national security?

He’s not an American!

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**Author:** ![Camus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba8739/32.png) [@Camus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Camus)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julian-assange-of-wikileaks-for-nobel-peace-prize/554154/64 "2010-09-23T23:09:25Z")

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> [@carm](#):
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> Why should he care about information sensitive to US national security?
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> He’s not an American!

We’re not (well, most of us) aren’t Afghans, but we would rather not see innocent Afghan interpreters or sources of intelligence - along with their families - be murdered because some Australian thinks that the US military/government is teh evil.

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**Author:** ![carm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@carm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carm)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julian-assange-of-wikileaks-for-nobel-peace-prize/554154/65 "2010-09-23T23:58:26Z")

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Interpreters? I thought it was informants, but either way, they are hardly innocent. They have conspired with foreign forces against their own government. _They_ are guilty of treason. Assange is not.  
I agree that it was a bad move by WikiLeaks, mainly because there was nothing particularly interesting in the files they released; but the fact (?) remains no crime was commited. He was under no obligation to keep the files secret, the same way a US citizen would be under no obligation to keep secret documents relating to Ecuadorian national security. A person cannot commit treason against a country he has no ties to. Calling for him to be hanged is ridiculous. For what? _For putting lives at risk?_ You’re in the middle of a war for Christ’s sake, and a war where the main casualties seem to be Afghani civilians. If anyone put lives at risk, it was GWB (although let’s not go there).  
Personally, if I was Assange, I would not have leaked the documents. But I really hate this attitude some Americans seem to have; thinking their jurisdiction is the whole world.  
as for the op: nobel peace prize - not a chance!

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julian-assange-of-wikileaks-for-nobel-peace-prize/554154/66 "2010-09-24T14:51:55Z")

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> [@carm](#):
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> Interpreters? I thought it was informants, but either way, they are hardly innocent. They have conspired with foreign forces against their own government. _They_ are guilty of treason. Assange is not.  
> I agree that it was a bad move by WikiLeaks, mainly because there was nothing particularly interesting in the files they released; but the fact (?) remains no crime was commited. He was under no obligation to keep the files secret, the same way a US citizen would be under no obligation to keep secret documents relating to Ecuadorian national security. A person cannot commit treason against a country he has no ties to. Calling for him to be hanged is ridiculous. For what? _For putting lives at risk?_ You’re in the middle of a war for Christ’s sake, and a war where the main casualties seem to be Afghani civilians. If anyone put lives at risk, it was GWB (although let’s not go there).  
> Personally, if I was Assange, I would not have leaked the documents. But I really hate this attitude some Americans seem to have; thinking their jurisdiction is the whole world.  
> as for the op: nobel peace prize - not a chance!

How are the informants committing treason? You do know that the Taliban != Afghanistan.

Assange should hang. He probably won’t but neither will Cheney and Scooter Libby.

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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/julian-assange-of-wikileaks-for-nobel-peace-prize/554154/67 "2010-09-24T16:40:27Z")

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Julian Assange is an asswipe that should be hanged from a lamppost. Here’s a fellow that deservers the peace price: [Stanislav Petrov](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov)

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